The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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He will do the same to Leicester, get them to a certain level then upgrade to a better, newer model.

What doesn't help him is his press conferences where he proclaims undying love and commitment for his latest club. I find him very insincere and full of corporate management speak. In his opening press conference for Leicester he is at it already.

What are you taking about?? Every manager and player does it sure how many times did Robbie Keane's dream come true.

The level of delusion from Celtic fans on this is crazy I know you want to believe you're more than just a football club and a brand but besides the green brigade you're really not!!

[Main Street]

Talk about delusion
Leicester are a minnow club with money. Money does not endow  a club with greatness.
Celtic are one of the great clubs,  respect from real fans around the world -  not franchise supporters.

[thebar]

He will do the same to Leicester, get them to a certain level then upgrade to a better, newer model.

What doesn't help him is his press conferences where he proclaims undying love and commitment for his latest club. I find him very insincere and full of corporate management speak. In his opening press conference for Leicester he is at it already.

What are you taking about?? Every manager and player does it sure how many times did Robbie Keane's dream come true.

The level of delusion from Celtic fans on this is crazy I know you want to believe you're more than just a football club and a brand but besides the green brigade you're really not!!

Really? What are you talking about??

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Don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid if he had gone in the summer, it's the timing of the move and the haste with which it was carried out. It didn't just happen overnight, this was something that was obviously in the offing for some time.

I accept that there is no loyalty in professional football but what I don't get is why he walked out now in the middle of a title race when he could have waited 2 or 3 months. It's not like Leicester have anything at stake for the remainder of the season.

[From the Bunker]

Neil Lennon is the best short term solution. He knows the League, the teams in it and has a great idea of the politics of Parkhead. He'll do ok.

Being a Celtic Manager is a horrible bag of contradictions. Celtic are a huge fish in a very small pond in Scotland and a tadpole in a lake that is Europe. The Board know they don't need to over spend to dominate Scotland and hope that what they have will help them trickle into the European competitions. It works most of the time. But with such limited investment, the higher standard games in Europe are beyond us and always will be unless Celtic leave the Scottish game.

I do believe Rogers fulfilled a dream in managing Celtic. But his teams have looked stale this season. How do you sell winning to a squad that is going for the triple triple? With all this domestic dominance - there was only one way Rogers team could go. And this was probably the best time to jump ship.

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Neil Lennon is the best short term solution. He knows the League, the teams in it and has a great idea of the politics of Parkhead. He'll do ok.

Being a Celtic Manager is a horrible bag of contradictions. Celtic are a huge fish in a very small pond in Scotland and a tadpole in a lake that is Europe. The Board know they don't need to over spend to dominate Scotland and hope that what they have will help them trickle into the European competitions. It works most of the time. But with such limited investment, the higher standard games in Europe are beyond us and always will be unless Celtic leave the Scottish game.

I do believe Rogers fulfilled a dream in managing Celtic. But his teams have looked stale this season. How do you sell winning to a squad that is going for the triple triple? With all this domestic dominance - there was only one way Rogers team could go. And this was probably the best time to jump ship.

I would agree with all of this except the last bit. The summer would have been the ideal time for him to go and he could have walked away with an unblemished record and among the best managers the club had ever seen. His domestic 69 unbeaten run was phenomenal by anyone's standards and he had probably taken the team as far as he could but walking now was very poor judgement on his part.

[charlieTully]

https://thecelticblog.com/2019/02/blogs/brendan-rodgers-greatness-sullied-by-astonishing-selfishness-and-a-breathtaking-act-of-betrayal/

[6th sam]

Leicester historically have been a yo-yo club. A heavy injection of external cash made them EPL competitive , and all the ducks lined up in a row to allow them to win EPL, eg top teams in transition, injury avoidance, luck re signing quality players, momentum, favourable referees, no European or cup distractions . They were undoubtedly a one hit wonder, but are not yet comparable to united Liverpool city Chelsea arsenal spurs Celtic rangers.
A very strange decision therefore for BR to jump ship from a club which is a genuine institution and to which he claimed to have an affinity, and where he could have been an all time legend 10iar, triple treble etc, to a club which remains uninspiring despite their recent unexpected league win.
What really grates is BR immediately talking them up, almost like a parody - surprised he didn't say he supported them as a child.
This is what puzzles me about the mercenary nature of soccer, why can't managers be honest and say this is career/business decision instead of trying to pretend there is some sort of emotional attachment or affinity.
Another theory , Did BR blame SG for losing the EPL then offload him, and did SG blame BR for bottling Liverpool's EPZl title challenge. SG unexpectedly takes Rangers job, which made no sense, but was this an opportunity to get his own back on the man that turfed him out of his boyhood club and cost them an EPL title. Despite the  protestations of Many Celtic supporters , SG has done a great job at Rangers. They overran Celtic in Ibrox, and given Celtic's Poor form at times this season, has BR bottled it. Was he worried that Rangers continue their momentum under a charismatic manager with a point to prove, and a couple of bad results and another loss to Rangers, would see his reputation tarnished forever and  perhaps scupper his chances of ever getting back to EPL. He basically bottled it .
More importantly he has taken several Celtic staff with him and would have taken more had they agreed to go, and all the day before a crucial away match v Hearts.
What will be his legacy? He managed to dominate relatively weak and poorly resourced  opposition in Scotland , but his European record has been abysmal. Ultimately he didn't have the belly for it at the top level. He may have won a couple of trebles versus minnows, but he now appears to have been exposed as lacking in qualities such as honesty, loyalty unselfishness, bravery , patriotism which are important to the Celtic faithful . Welcome back Neil Lennon, he did it on the field and in management he had us much more competitive in Europe where it counts.
I'm not a massive Celtic fan, but I really like what they represent ( the Irish and charitable history , not the sectarianism of some of their mindless supporters ) and like Liverpool , Man Utd , Barcelona they are an institution, BR obviously didn't get that in the way Stein, strachan , o'neill, Lennon did.
Maybe it's more appropriate that Lennon gets the chance to guide Celtic to another title given the horrendous abuse he has had to suffer.

[charlieTully]

Leicester historically have been a yo-yo club. A heavy injection of external cash made them EPL competitive , and all the ducks lined up in a row to allow them to win EPL, eg top teams in transition, injury avoidance, luck re signing quality players, momentum, favourable referees, no European or cup distractions . They were undoubtedly a one hit wonder, but are not yet comparable to united Liverpool city Chelsea arsenal spurs Celtic rangers.
A very strange decision therefore for BR to jump ship from a club which is a genuine institution and to which he claimed to have an affinity, and where he could have been an all time legend 10iar, triple treble etc, to a club which remains uninspiring despite their recent unexpected league win.
What really grates is BR immediately talking them up, almost like a parody - surprised he didn't say he supported them as a child.
This is what puzzles me about the mercenary nature of soccer, why can't managers be honest and say this is career/business decision instead of trying to pretend there is some sort of emotional attachment or affinity.
Another theory , Did BR blame SG for lesgue loss, then offload him. SG unexpectedly takes Rangers job, which made no sense, but was this an opportunity to get his own back on the man that turfed him out of his boyhood club. Despite the  protestations of Many Celtic supporters , SG has done a great job at Rangers. They overran Celtic in Ibrox, and given Crltic's Poor form at times this season, has BR bottled it. Was he worried that Rangers continue their momentum under a charismatic manager with a point to prove, and a couple of bad results and another loss to Rangers, would see his reputation tarnished and perhaps scupper his chances of getting back to EPL. He basically bottled it .
More importantly he has taken several Celtic staff with him and would have taken more had they agreed to go, and all the day before a crucial away match v Hearts.
What will be his legacy? He managed to dominate relatively weak and poorly resourced  opposition in Scotland , but his European record has been abysmal. Ultimately he didn't have the belly for it st the top level. He may have won a couple of trebles versus minnows, but he has now been exposed as lacking in qualities such as honesty, loyalty unselfishness, bravery , patriotism which are important to the Celtic faithful . Welcome back Neil Lennon, he did it on the field and in management he had us much more competitive in Europe where it counts.
I'm not a massive Celtic fan, but I really like what they represent ( the Irish and charitable history , not the sectarianism of some of their mindless supporters ) and like Liverpool , Man Utd , Barcelona they are an institution, BR obviously didn't get that in the way Stein, strachan , o'neill, Lennon did.
Maybe it's more appropriate that Lennon gets the chance to guide Celtic to another title given the horrendous abuse he has had to suffer.

Good post.

[BennyCake]

This talk of Celtics poor Euro form. What do people expect like? There's not a hope in hell Celtic could compete with the major teams from Spain Italy, England Germany etc.

The fact is, Scottish football is a minnow league in Europe and the tv money they get is minuscule, and their teams will just not be good enough when up against the super powers

[yellowcard]

It makes you wonder how long this was in the pipeline and did Lennon know the job was going to become available before he made his exit from Hibs. Everything happened so quickly today that I don't believe these deals were just cobbled together in a day or two.

[Walter Cronc]

Minnow club?? They won the Premier League recently. Hardly to be mocked!

[dec]

This is what puzzles me about the mercenary nature of soccer, why can't managers be honest and say this is career/business decision instead of trying to pretend there is some sort of emotional attachment or affinity.

Because support for a soccer team is based on the idea that it is more than a business. I might but a different brand of car next time if I get a better deal but I am not going to change which team I support.

If BR announces that he is only doing this as a career move then his time at Leicester will be dogged by people wondering if he already has his eye on a job after Leicester.

[6th sam]

This talk of Celtics poor Euro form. What do people expect like? There's not a hope in hell Celtic could compete with the major teams from Spain Italy, England Germany etc.

The fact is, Scottish football is a minnow league in Europe and the tv money they get is minuscule, and their teams will just not be good enough when up against the super powers

Nobody expects Celtic to beat the superpowers, however they have to aspire to be competitive against the rest, especially teams with similar resources. During Rodgers tenure they have been trounced by the superpowers and been uninspiring against the others. Celtic park Euro nights guaranteed competitive football , that is no longer the case. Rodgers Euro record has been absolutely terrible, and his signings have been uninspired, too many on loan no doubt effecting the team bond. He benefited from a quality youth system and his professional approach to preparation , and his kudos as an epl manager undoubtedly was enough to dominate Scotland , but the extra required for Europe wasn't there. We tolerated his self righteous , self important demeanour But on reflection it just looks like pompous hypocrisy . It's like the Declan Devine situation , I can see the financial sense of  playing for England but own that, as opposed to dressing it up as something else and trying to justify disloyalty

[marty34]

How much compensation do Leicester have to pay Celtic now? 
Any proper figure especially as it's mid-season.

If it was sorted for June, I'd understand but I think doing it now has ruined his reputation especially after signing Brown up for another contract.

What must Scott Brown be thinking today???