The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[rodney trotter]

Honestly don't know what the answer is.After what happened Rangers,money will not be gambled.Indeed if Desmond made £100m was made available for players tomorrow,who of proven genuine Champions League pedigree would come to Celtic or to play in Scotland?

Needs to be a fundamental change to football financing across the globe to create a level playing field

I get laughed at when I mention this. Over the next decade there will be about 12 teams in europe that can win the CL. Athletico were a fluke last year to get to the final and they've been dismantled by the richer clubs over the summer picking at their carcass. Even if they have won it they still would have sold all their players.

Look at Southampton. If they were rich enough they could have been challenging next season. At this rate they might get relegated next year.

The old joy of football was that it was unpredictable and that on any given day your team might just upset the opposition. Now these guys get plenty of chances (CL groups) if they do slip to rectify.

Fukcing pointless. No more dreaming of glory and thats why you have hoardes of Chelsea fans these days. Doubt they were around when Dixon and Speedie were their top players.

Atletico kept hold of Koke, probaly their most important player. They have added Mandzukic a decent replacement for Diego Costa and Antoine Griezmann. They will add a few more no doubt, should be strong again this year despite the losses from last season.

[foxcommander]

Honestly don't know what the answer is.After what happened Rangers,money will not be gambled.Indeed if Desmond made £100m was made available for players tomorrow,who of proven genuine Champions League pedigree would come to Celtic or to play in Scotland?

Needs to be a fundamental change to football financing across the globe to create a level playing field

I get laughed at when I mention this. Over the next decade there will be about 12 teams in europe that can win the CL. Athletico were a fluke last year to get to the final and they've been dismantled by the richer clubs over the summer picking at their carcass. Even if they have won it they still would have sold all their players.

Look at Southampton. If they were rich enough they could have been challenging next season. At this rate they might get relegated next year.

The old joy of football was that it was unpredictable and that on any given day your team might just upset the opposition. Now these guys get plenty of chances (CL groups) if they do slip to rectify.

Fukcing pointless. No more dreaming of glory and thats why you have hoardes of Chelsea fans these days. Doubt they were around when Dixon and Speedie were their top players.

If it was a fluke why have the best players been bought by the richer clubs? And they won the Spanish league with a wage bill similar to that of Stoke, hardly a team of mugs. With a good manager, a good youth setup, scouting you can be successful.

Is this all you picked up on from my post?
I'm trying to say that as soon as a team is successful they get picked apart. Athletico might be able to join the upper echelons if they spend wisely and replace their good players with good players. It was a fluke from the point of view that they had enough good players at the same time to challenge the bigwigs. Porto ditto back in the early 2000's (boo!)

Who's southampton going to attract now their best players are sold off?

[Syferus]

Honestly don't know what the answer is.After what happened Rangers,money will not be gambled.Indeed if Desmond made £100m was made available for players tomorrow,who of proven genuine Champions League pedigree would come to Celtic or to play in Scotland?

Needs to be a fundamental change to football financing across the globe to create a level playing field

I get laughed at when I mention this. Over the next decade there will be about 12 teams in europe that can win the CL. Athletico were a fluke last year to get to the final and they've been dismantled by the richer clubs over the summer picking at their carcass. Even if they have won it they still would have sold all their players.

Look at Southampton. If they were rich enough they could have been challenging next season. At this rate they might get relegated next year.

The old joy of football was that it was unpredictable and that on any given day your team might just upset the opposition. Now these guys get plenty of chances (CL groups) if they do slip to rectify.

Fukcing pointless. No more dreaming of glory and thats why you have hoardes of Chelsea fans these days. Doubt they were around when Dixon and Speedie were their top players.

If it was a fluke why have the best players been bought by the richer clubs? And they won the Spanish league with a wage bill similar to that of Stoke, hardly a team of mugs. With a good manager, a good youth setup, scouting you can be successful.

Is this all you picked up on from my post?
I'm trying to say that as soon as a team is successful they get picked apart. Athletico might be able to join the upper echelons if they spend wisely and replace their good players with good players. It was a fluke from the point of view that they had enough good players at the same time to challenge the bigwigs. Porto ditto back in the early 2000's (boo!)

Who's southampton going to attract now their best players are sold off?

Almost all of Southampton's recent success has been driven by their world class youth academy so that's a bit of a moot point, they weren't 'attracting' players to begin with.

[lynchbhoy]

I understand and kind of agree with the gist of what foxcommander says.
There is a top tier of clubs with money and financial clout that will remain at the top.
clubs like athletico Madrid, porto, villareal,sevilla, deport la coruna etc over the past couple of decades have been more or less one/two season wonders due to a perfect alignment of good manager/tactics/players.
None of these seem to last for too long as the clubs don't have the clout the big boys do

Southampton are a great football school for youth and bring in lads from all around England - the cream, but they still buy a lot in as well - eg the celtic players such as Boruc, wanyama, hooiveld etc

players want to join celtic to be in the shop window.
players want to get to English premier league, la liga, siere a, budesliga as there is huge kudos attached to those leagues and there is a bigger pay packet.

Celtic will continue to dwindle until and if they get into English league.
This might have been a realistic chance a few years ago when epl was stale and boring and dominated by man u - plus almost all games were boring as hell. sky were bringing up the idea of bringing in celtic and rangers to boost things again.

Now with man u no longer dominant and the big teams like man city, Chelsea, man u and arsenal vying for the title, then next level of clubs like Liverpool, everton, spurs etc looking to break into the top 4 - then several others trying to break into the second tier group- its more competitive and interesting again.
thus sky are happy and advertising/revenue and interest are all back up - so Celtic are no longer needed.
So unless the Celts buy a failing English div club, or request permission to get a team into lower non league group - and work their way up- then I fear that this will be a long term slow death of one of the biggest and one of the best supported teams on the planet.

without financial backing, athletico will join the ranks of the one hit wonders and without money , Celtic are fcuked too - but in a worse way!

[foxcommander]

Honestly don't know what the answer is.After what happened Rangers,money will not be gambled.Indeed if Desmond made £100m was made available for players tomorrow,who of proven genuine Champions League pedigree would come to Celtic or to play in Scotland?

Needs to be a fundamental change to football financing across the globe to create a level playing field

I get laughed at when I mention this. Over the next decade there will be about 12 teams in europe that can win the CL. Athletico were a fluke last year to get to the final and they've been dismantled by the richer clubs over the summer picking at their carcass. Even if they have won it they still would have sold all their players.

Look at Southampton. If they were rich enough they could have been challenging next season. At this rate they might get relegated next year.

The old joy of football was that it was unpredictable and that on any given day your team might just upset the opposition. Now these guys get plenty of chances (CL groups) if they do slip to rectify.

Fukcing pointless. No more dreaming of glory and thats why you have hoardes of Chelsea fans these days. Doubt they were around when Dixon and Speedie were their top players.

If it was a fluke why have the best players been bought by the richer clubs? And they won the Spanish league with a wage bill similar to that of Stoke, hardly a team of mugs. With a good manager, a good youth setup, scouting you can be successful.

Is this all you picked up on from my post?
I'm trying to say that as soon as a team is successful they get picked apart. Athletico might be able to join the upper echelons if they spend wisely and replace their good players with good players. It was a fluke from the point of view that they had enough good players at the same time to challenge the bigwigs. Porto ditto back in the early 2000's (boo!)

Who's southampton going to attract now their best players are sold off?

Almost all of Southampton's recent success has been driven by their world class youth academy so that's a bit of a moot point, they weren't 'attracting' players to begin with.

They must have a hell of an academy if they are going to replace all the stars they sold this summer with these new kids.

[rodney trotter]

Koeman is an experienced manager he will be able to replace those players. He has a nice budget to work with too. They have more quality coming through in the academy aswell.

[imtommygunn]

Koeman is an experienced manager he will be able to replace those players. He has a nice budget to work with too. They have more quality coming through in the academy aswell.

It's about time he started spending money then...

[rodney trotter]

The deadline is at the end of the month not by the end of the weekend, they signed Ryan Bertrand over Liverpool on loan , not a bad start.

Bertrand was actually their 3rd summer signing http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2F0%2Ffootball%2F28576393&ei=mLrbU67GCLLQ7AaMw4H4BA&usg=AFQjCNHajfStKFZu-vtxqvDiMGWuOhnxkA

[T Fearon]

Trailing 1 nil tonight.Looks like one of the worst ever aggregate scores in Europe

[rodney trotter]

6-1 on aggregate now.

There will be a mass exodus of players now to the pl

[lynchbhoy]

Hopefully a few will be offloaded

I suppose the new manager needs time and a few more of his own players to get his team out there.

He won't get much money and will need cut price Scandinavian players.

Sell Forster and van djik and get rid of izzaguire asap

Dreadful perf but legia look good and play nice football
- comfortable on the ball . Good luck to them.

[naka]

just back from pub
we were awful
manager poor
squad poor
Lawwell will reap what he sows because its going to be a tough year watching celtic

[T Fearon]

Worst result imaginable,and when the opposition say that St Pats Athletic gave them a harder game than Celtic it says it all.

Be interesting to see how long Deila lasts.They accused Strachan of being non Celtic linked or minded.Already season is effectively over

[charlieTully]

I wouldn't do it personally but all you Celtic bashers could do worse than stick a quid or two on Motherwell or Aberdeen for the spl. 33/1 and 50/1. Parkhead was half empty last year,  will be like a morgue this season, sack the board.. No ambition, decision made that European football no longer necessary as debt free. Corporate shite.

[Syferus]

6-1 on aggregate now.

There will be a mass exodus of players now to the pl

Apart from the keeper does any self-respecting PL club want those players?