The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[dillinger]

I'd be pretty sure it's Celtic.

You can bet your balls it is.

Cliftonville get a couple of hundred. Celtic fill a boat.

Has to be Celtic. I was on the Stena two weeks ago and there was about 500 Celtic fans on it.
( and four Gretna fans)

[T Fearon]

Those who support Cliftonvile would also support Celtic and vice versa,so it boils down to numbers who actually attend games in both cases.The 500 Celtic fans on the boat would be drawn from all parts of the 6 counties and Donegal,not just Belfast.In common with most Irish League teams,Cliftonville's average home gate would,I'd say,be around the 400-500 mark.They would be one of the better supported clubs,and gates would increase if they were in contention for honours etc.Cliftonville V Linfield would be the equivalent of the lost and lamented Celtic V Rangers derby

With the comparatively recent emergence of Donegal Celtic in the West of the city,ironically games between them and Cliftonville have had added bite (they rarely finish with the full quota of players).Its almost a showdown as to who best represents the catholic/ nationalist fraternity.Donegal Celtic have not yet built any substantial support base.I suppose people in that area would be Cliftonvile supporters,simply because they have been in existence so much longer,and will not switch allegiances.

[T Fearon]

As to the epitomisation of the divide,it's probably West Belfast (just take out the Shankhill Road part) versus  practically all of East Belfast,pockets of N Belfast (Tigers Bay and Mount Vernon),and Sandy Row in the City Centre.N Belfast is evenly divided,with a patchwork of both unionist/loyalist areas (eg Ardoyne,Antrim Road,versus Tigers Bay,Mount Vernon etc).

[ONeill]

Those who support Cliftonvile would also support Celtic and vice versa

That's bollocks. I know Celtic supporters who detest Cliftonville and their fans.

[T Fearon]

I was speaking generally of course.Recently a significant number of Cliftonville fans paid 20 quid to watch Celtic's youth team perform at Solitude,Frank MC Avennie played a few games for Cliftonville in the 90s and got an ecstatic reception every time he appeared.I would contend that it would be eminently safe to assume that the average Cliftonville fan is a Celtic fan and vice versa.I even went to see Cliftonville myself in the 2009 IFA Cup Final.

[Over the Bar]

all depends what you class as 'fans'.  most of belfast support celtic or rangers simply because it involves sitting on their fat holes drinking cans and watching them on tv. 

[Jonah]

all depends what you class as 'fans'.  most of belfast support celtic or rangers simply because it involves sitting on their fat holes drinking cans and watching them on tv.

Same for Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal fans everywhere in Ireland.

All of them?

[Jonah]

all depends what you class as 'fans'.  most of belfast support celtic or rangers simply because it involves sitting on their fat holes drinking cans and watching them on tv.

Same for Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal fans everywhere in Ireland.

All of them?

'Most' as was in his post.

Wouldn't agree with that at all.
There would be a good few like that but not most as you say.

[StGallsGAA]

all depends what you class as 'fans'.  most of belfast support celtic or rangers simply because it involves sitting on their fat holes drinking cans and watching them on tv.
Same for Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal fans everywhere in Ireland.

All of them?
'Most' as was in his post.

Wouldn't agree with that at all.
There would be a good few like that but not most as you say.
My point is as valid as his.

I think his point was to be a Cliftonville 'fan' and seeing them play means getting off your arse and going to the game whereas you can be a Celtic 'fan' without leaving your armchair!   

[Oraisteach]

Thanks for all the replies, but all I was getting it really was the question 'If you asked a Nationalist soccer follower from Belfast whether they liked Cliftonville or Celtic better, what would they say, apart from f@%k away aff?"  Would more identify primarily with Cliftonville, or would more pick Celtic?  Thanks again.  My own feeling was Celtic, but then again I'm not from Belfast and I don't follow the Irish League too closely.

[Myles Na G.]

Thanks for all the replies, but all I was getting it really was the question 'If you asked a Nationalist soccer follower from Belfast whether they liked Cliftonville or Celtic better, what would they say, apart from f@%k away aff?"  Would more identify primarily with Cliftonville, or would more pick Celtic?  Thanks again.  My own feeling was Celtic, but then again I'm not from Belfast and I don't follow the Irish League too closely.

They'd say, 'Soccer? Do you mean football?' Then they'd tell you to f@%k away aff. 

[johnneycool]

Thanks for all the replies, but all I was getting it really was the question 'If you asked a Nationalist soccer follower from Belfast whether they liked Cliftonville or Celtic better, what would they say, apart from f@%k away aff?"  Would more identify primarily with Cliftonville, or would more pick Celtic?  Thanks again.  My own feeling was Celtic, but then again I'm not from Belfast and I don't follow the Irish League too closely.

They'd say, 'Soccer? Do you mean football?' Then they'd tell you to f@%k away aff. 

Strange that the IFA run soccer camps during the summer then?

[Over the Bar]

Lucky for celtic benfica have just sold their two best players!

[AQMP]

Thanks for all the replies, but all I was getting it really was the question 'If you asked a Nationalist soccer follower from Belfast whether they liked Cliftonville or Celtic better, what would they say, apart from f@%k away aff?"  Would more identify primarily with Cliftonville, or would more pick Celtic?  Thanks again.  My own feeling was Celtic, but then again I'm not from Belfast and I don't follow the Irish League too closely.

I'd think it would be Celtic by a country (or city) mile.

[Milltown Row2]

Thanks for all the replies, but all I was getting it really was the question 'If you asked a Nationalist soccer follower from Belfast whether they liked Cliftonville or Celtic better, what would they say, apart from f@%k away aff?"  Would more identify primarily with Cliftonville, or would more pick Celtic?  Thanks again.  My own feeling was Celtic, but then again I'm not from Belfast and I don't follow the Irish League too closely.

I'd think it would be Celtic by a country (or city) mile.

But if you are from the Ciftonville area.........