The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[laoislad]

Ye are following the wrong team in Green and White hoops!

[Muzz]

Going to have to watch the match later.   Just seen the result from last night.

To say I am disappointed is an understatement.  Need to see the game to see where it was lost.  Though listening to some of you it is completely inexcuseable to not have stokes on nor give McCourt a run out when we need goals.

For those that seen it - how big a bearing was the sending off?

[Pat Mustard]

to think Celtic and Rangers want to join the Premier league. Truth is they would struggle in the 3rd tier of English football.

Aye, because they'd have the same income they have now if they played in the premiership. You absolute clown.

I don't think anyone here was saying Lennon was or is a great manager. A lot of us supported him last season for obvious reasons. I suppose we were wrong to do that?

Muzz, a sending off and goal in the first minute had the effect you'd expect for a team with no confidence away fro home in Europe. It was only in very brief periods where we looked like playing our way in to it. I'm not calling for Lennon's head just yet but in my heart he doesnt have what it takes.

[lynchbhoy]

apart from the problems starting in the off season as Celtic havent/wont spend the cash to buy better quality international strikers etc - the first leg did Celtic.
Missing the key players and having the unsettled side in the first leg resulted in dominating the game but no goals.
Celtic then had to go out last night knowing they needed a goal and instead after three minutes, concede a penalty and have the centre half sent off. Whatever about conceding a goal, playin away with 10men and chasing a goal - well thats nigh impossible.

Lennon is a great guy, but he is inexperienced.I would disagree with a lot of his team selections and formations.
However as he is the Celtic manager , Celtic fans should get behind him - same was as the fans got behind wgs and mowbray despite many not liking either ( I liked mowbray but - after a while- not strachan but supported both).

now that Swansea have set the precedent and played in the english premier (though thats a load of balls- the premier is no different to the old english top tier Div 1 that Swansea had already played in a couple of decades ago !!) - Celtic can look at the notion I had concocted in the early 00's.
Send a second (reserve/youth) team down to play in the english lower leagues and have them rise up through the ranks and divisions  until they get to English championship. then switch the Top Celtic side with this 'sleeper' Celtic side and then get into the EPL and the money that awaits them.
with the money on offer to the current epl sides, Celtic woul dbe up amongst thebest of them.
Might need a mega rich sugar daddy to bankroll them like a lot of these top 5 clubs have, but if Celtic want to comete at this level, then they have to sell their soul like the rest have done. That business and thats modern day soccer. they will be able to afford the best of managers and players then. right now Celtic and rangers and other scots clubs - are on a downward spiral as money in spl is getting lesser. The reasons for keeping Celtic in the spl no longer exist (entry to the CL and europe each season). this is the only way imo, and I said it elsewhere nearly 10 years ago..

[screenmachine]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

[heffo]

Send a second (reserve/youth) team down to play in the english lower leagues and have them rise up through the ranks and divisions  until they get to English championship. then switch the Top Celtic side with this 'sleeper' Celtic side and then get into the EPL and the money that awaits them.

Unless you're talking about the Doctor Martins league LB there is no way a Celtic reserve/Youth team would fly up the leagues.

There are a lot of good pro's operating in the lower leagues and they can be very hard to get out of.

As it stands Celtic are a championship standard team. The days of the 40k a week contracts and the accompanying quality are long gone

[Pat Mustard]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

What exactly is an "Inter Toto(or its current equivalent) type club"? Yet another clueless opinion. Could the current Celtic team cut it in the premiership? Obviously not. The financial budget the club currently work around is lower than that of a championship club. Now, can your brain comprehend the fact that if Celtic were in the premiership, they'd have far more tv income, ticket income, and are one of the most marketable football teams around? There'd be an opportunity for Celic to be be the biggest in Scotland, Ireland, even the Yanks would buy in to it to an extent.
In case you still can't comprehend, I'll spell it out. Premiership = Moneybags. At the minute Celtic have none so couldn't compete. If they got money, they could. Understand?
As for your shite about "lunatics" going to watch 3rd rate football every week, I'd hazard a guess its for the same reason you go to watch Ballinascreen every week.

[AZOffaly]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

What exactly is an "Inter Toto(or its current equivalent) type club"? Yet another clueless opinion. Could the current Celtic team cut it in the premiership? Obviously not. The financial budget the club currently work around is lower than that of a championship club. Now, can your brain comprehend the fact that if Celtic were in the premiership, they'd have far more tv income, ticket income, and are one of the most marketable football teams around? There'd be an opportunity for Celic to be be the biggest in Scotland, Ireland, even the Yanks would buy in to it to an extent.
In case you still can't comprehend, I'll spell it out. Premiership = Moneybags. At the minute Celtic have none so couldn't compete. If they got money, they could. Understand?
As for your shite about "lunatics" going to watch 3rd rate football every week, I'd hazard a guess its for the same reason you go to watch Ballinascreen every week.

But sure you could say that about any club Pat. Notts Forest would have piles of cash if they were in the Premiership, so would Leeds. Celtic or Rangers no more deserve to be in the premiership than those teams, so if they were to come into English football, a lá Cardiff/Swansea,  I think they'd have to start in League 1 at best and work their way up, like other big clubs have to do.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

to think Celtic and Rangers want to join the Premier league. Truth is they would struggle in the 3rd tier of English football.

This is the type of stupid assed comment that really annoys me.
Swansea v West Brom would get nearly as much for their televised match against each other as Celtic get all season!! Your comparing apples with oranges, if Celtic were to go to England then they would get a massive income increase and would be able to attract much, much better players. We have a stadium which holds 62 thousand people, there are only a couple of stadia in England that can even come close!

[AZOffaly]

If Celtic were to go where in England GD? Straight into the Premiership? Undoubtedly. Would they get a massive boost if they were to join in the lower leagues? And if not, why should they, or Rangers, get special treatment and be parachuted into the Premiership? At the moment, they are playing at a standard more akin to Championship level, and probably mid table. That's all you can deal with. Saying they'd have a much better squad if they were in the premiership is undoubtedly true, but is also probably true for Leeds, Forest, Southampton, and a host of other clubs too.

[Club Rossa]

Screenmachine,you ridicule people for going to support their team.Are the people who watch Ballinascreen every week lunatics saying that you have went 37 years with no county title?
It's called backing your team.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

What exactly is an "Inter Toto(or its current equivalent) type club"? Yet another clueless opinion. Could the current Celtic team cut it in the premiership? Obviously not. The financial budget the club currently work around is lower than that of a championship club. Now, can your brain comprehend the fact that if Celtic were in the premiership, they'd have far more tv income, ticket income, and are one of the most marketable football teams around? There'd be an opportunity for Celic to be be the biggest in Scotland, Ireland, even the Yanks would buy in to it to an extent.
In case you still can't comprehend, I'll spell it out. Premiership = Moneybags. At the minute Celtic have none so couldn't compete. If they got money, they could. Understand?
As for your shite about "lunatics" going to watch 3rd rate football every week, I'd hazard a guess its for the same reason you go to watch Ballinascreen every week.

But sure you could say that about any club Pat. Notts Forest would have piles of cash if they were in the Premiership, so would Leeds. Celtic or Rangers no more deserve to be in the premiership than those teams, so if they were to come into English football, a lá Cardiff/Swansea,  I think they'd have to start in League 1 at best and work their way up, like other big clubs have to do.

No you couldn't, there is no comparison between Celtic and any other clubs in Britian in terms of support, except for Man U, Liverpool, possibly Arsenal and Chelsea.
Celtic have a world wide fan base, which would only grow bigger if they played on the big stage that is the EPL.

[Pat Mustard]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

What exactly is an "Inter Toto(or its current equivalent) type club"? Yet another clueless opinion. Could the current Celtic team cut it in the premiership? Obviously not. The financial budget the club currently work around is lower than that of a championship club. Now, can your brain comprehend the fact that if Celtic were in the premiership, they'd have far more tv income, ticket income, and are one of the most marketable football teams around? There'd be an opportunity for Celic to be be the biggest in Scotland, Ireland, even the Yanks would buy in to it to an extent.
In case you still can't comprehend, I'll spell it out. Premiership = Moneybags. At the minute Celtic have none so couldn't compete. If they got money, they could. Understand?
As for your shite about "lunatics" going to watch 3rd rate football every week, I'd hazard a guess its for the same reason you go to watch Ballinascreen every week.

But sure you could say that about any club Pat. Notts Forest would have piles of cash if they were in the Premiership, so would Leeds. Celtic or Rangers no more deserve to be in the premiership than those teams, so if they were to come into English football, a lá Cardiff/Swansea,  I think they'd have to start in League 1 at best and work their way up, like other big clubs have to do.

I wasn't actually saying Celtic should be in the premiership, I was just stating the efffect it would have if they were. Celtic and Rangers have much more potential revenue wise than the 2 you mentioned IMO.
For the record, I'd love to see us in the premiership, but I do actually agree with you that we shouldn't go straight in, and at least have to start at the championship. I do reckon that as the English league continues to implode money-wise over the next few years we may get invited.

[AZOffaly]

People need to face facts and realise that Celtic and Rangers are no longer (not that they really ever were) a force in European football. They are at best an Inter Toto (or its current equivalent) type club. This romantic notion that Celtic could cut it with the big boys in the Premiership is bollocks, top ten would be a real stretch for either club currently. There really is no point in getting rid of Lennon unless 75-100% of the squad is going as well. As the saying goes, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear, or something to that affect. Yet we still have eejits sailing the high seas week in week out to go and watch second/third rate football. Lunatics.

What exactly is an "Inter Toto(or its current equivalent) type club"? Yet another clueless opinion. Could the current Celtic team cut it in the premiership? Obviously not. The financial budget the club currently work around is lower than that of a championship club. Now, can your brain comprehend the fact that if Celtic were in the premiership, they'd have far more tv income, ticket income, and are one of the most marketable football teams around? There'd be an opportunity for Celic to be be the biggest in Scotland, Ireland, even the Yanks would buy in to it to an extent.
In case you still can't comprehend, I'll spell it out. Premiership = Moneybags. At the minute Celtic have none so couldn't compete. If they got money, they could. Understand?
As for your shite about "lunatics" going to watch 3rd rate football every week, I'd hazard a guess its for the same reason you go to watch Ballinascreen every week.

But sure you could say that about any club Pat. Notts Forest would have piles of cash if they were in the Premiership, so would Leeds. Celtic or Rangers no more deserve to be in the premiership than those teams, so if they were to come into English football, a lá Cardiff/Swansea,  I think they'd have to start in League 1 at best and work their way up, like other big clubs have to do.

No you couldn't, there is no comparison between Celtic and any other clubs in Britian in terms of support, except for Man U, Liverpool, possibly Arsenal and Chelsea.
Celtic have a world wide fan base, which would only grow bigger if they played on the big stage that is the EPL.

I'm saying that if you popped any team into the Premiership they would get a huge cash flow increase. Obviously Celtic have more intangibles than a lot of them, but saying they are better than championship standard because they'd have huge money in the premiership is a straw man I think.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

If Celtic were to go where in England GD? Straight into the Premiership? Undoubtedly. Would they get a massive boost if they were to join in the lower leagues? And if not, why should they, or Rangers, get special treatment and be parachuted into the Premiership?

The EPL is heading towards financial meltdown, the bubble will pop at some stage unless some financial restraints are put in place, players earning 200k+ sweet feck no team can support that in the long term. Celtic into that pot would increase the appeal of the EPL and bring it to an even wider audience.
Btw I'm not saying that Celtic should necessarily go straight into the EPL.