The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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illdecide

Seriously that man Caldwell needs released from his duties. He is brutal and so slow it's not even funny. Balde and O Dea are def better defenders somebody pointed that out earlier. As for Samaras he's a good player and should be used more as for who makes way????
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

gawa316

Quote from: Rav67 on March 09, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Can't believe yet another injury time goal, \

Anyone any stats on how many late goals (say 85 min and on) celtic have scored in recent times?

It's unbelieveable. i use to think man u where bad...

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: gawa316 on March 10, 2008, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Rav67 on March 09, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Can't believe yet another injury time goal, \

Anyone any stats on how many late goals (say 85 min and on) celtic have scored in recent times?

It's unbelieveable. i use to think man u where bad...


Supposedly have scored in the last five mins eleven times this season - don't think that it was the cructial goal in all eleven matches.
Not that it matters how many times its happened, a goal is a goal no matter when its scored, and three points are three points, no matter how the game was won!  ;)
Tbc....

tyroneman

So another 2 points chucked away tonight..at home too.

Can Strachan not just go.and go now

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: tyroneman on March 12, 2008, 11:33:35 PM
So another 2 points chucked away tonight..at home too.

Can Strachan not just go.and go now


Have heard quite a few rumours from various sources, all suggesting that WGS will walk in the Summer - now personally I don't think he will.
As for last night, it was always going to be a very difficult game, given the Arabs current form this season, we hit the woodwork twice and had most of the pressure, but again, no cutting edge in front of goal (which WGS admitted after the game).
Obviously its now going to be extremely difficult to retain the league, but I believe that we can still do it, 3 OF matches still to go and 2 of them at home, also the Orcs fixture pile-up has to start affecting them soon, their squad isn't big enough to cope with the number of games they have left (also losing Cousin for a month ain't going to help their cause).
So I wouldn't be really unhappy if the Hun held out for a win tonight over Bremen, another 2 games in Europe, more pressure on them and increases the Scottish teams co-efficient and they have no hope of actually winning the competition.
Tbc....

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: clarshack on March 13, 2008, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 13, 2008, 08:49:52 AM
So I wouldn't be really unhappy if the Hun held out for a win tonight over Bremen, another 2 games in Europe, more pressure on them and increases the Scottish teams co-efficient and they have no hope of actually winning the competition.

dont know about that. i've a bad feeling about the huns in the uefa cup. i would be much happier if spurs and everton had have progressed. also there's no way a celtic team under WGS are gonna beat walter smith's huns 3 times in the league.


Don't be stressing your head Clarshack, Bayern Munich have the UEFA cup in the bag.  ;)
Tbc....

tyroneman

I agree..would much rather Tottenham and Everton were in the cup than out as Bayern could have an off night.

Not much more you can say about last night though.blame lies squarely at WGS door. It's his team, he made the signings, he picks the formation, he motivates the players, he sorts out the tactics (what tactics?)

Artur..........world class and the reaosn Celtic are still anywhere near the top of the SPL
Hinkle..........don't know yet..looks useful enough
Caldwell.................joke.O'Dea and Bobo are far better
McManus...........again not good enough
Wilson...alright
Naylor...........substandard
McGeady........a good player. Njot a great player...yet
Naka..........waste of space this year
Brown.............poor
Donati...........poor
Sno..............poor
Hartley............poor
Robson............you get what you pay for
Skippy.........gone off the boil big time. Not a footballer. A six yard finisher, that's all.
Samaras............average
JVoH............poor this year
Killen...a joke

No tempo, no ideas, no football being played.

Celtic always had the reputation of an exciting team who treid to stick to the prinicples of football. Not under WGS.

T Fearon

On a happier note, according to this week's View, the play about Lisbon is on at the Tivoli in Dublin beginning on Easter Tuesday and running into early April. Anybody seen this yet? Am thinking of going myself


lynchbhoy

Quote from: T Fearon on March 13, 2008, 03:22:39 PM
On a happier note, according to this week's View, the play about Lisbon is on at the Tivoli in Dublin beginning on Easter Tuesday and running into early April. Anybody seen this yet? Am thinking of going myself

give me a shout if yer going..

pm me as my email add has changed
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T Fearon

Will do Lynchboy.

Apparently they're showing highlights of the game in the Tivoli bar, after the show, from Monday to Thursday. Tims at the Theatre ;D

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: tyroneman on March 13, 2008, 01:34:45 PM
Celtic always had the reputation of an exciting team who treid to stick to the prinicples of football. Not under WGS.

Are you having a laugh?? Im no great fan of WGS but his Celtic's have played a better brand of passing football than MON's did and on a smaller budget too. Calling for his head after a draw with Dundee United seems very short sighted, as GDA said the current United said are a well organised outfit.

tyroneman

QuoteIm no great fan of WGS but his Celtic's have played a better brand of passing football than MON's did

The greatest myth of recent times. WGS Celtic hump the ball long to the big man 80% of the time, at least Petrov and Lennon played some football.

If you look at money in/out and money available WGS is no worse off than O'Neill. If you look at thier win/loss records however WGS is nowhere near.

And I've called for his head since the first season he took over  ;) Precisely because of the football style he brought

Lamh Dhearg Alba

O' Neil's teams have always been big strong physical sides who relied a lot on being very direct. It wasnt the Celtic way but the results (and MON's background) won over the fans. Strachan's Celtic HAVE played better football, no doubt about that. He doesnt have the same background though....

lynchbhoy

MON's earliest Celtic model were a route one side.
Towards the end when the midfield were too old and slow, they returned at times to route one. Othe than that people believe the myth that they were ALWAYS long ball specialists and that they played unattractive football.
I suppose they kind of did, not the cavalier attacking stuff from the Celtic of old, the cavalier approach that looked great under Tommy burns bt won them nothing (apart from a scraped SFA cup against lowly Airdrie) or under GS when rangers have been beating themselves and handing Celtic the league.
Certainly Celtic play nicer football, but MO's teams played a more defensive safety first style of football - a technique used by practically ALL winning sides.
Build on defense and then augment that.
Celtic corner the market in midfielders and scots international squad members.
They play nice football at tmes, but most of the time play a horrible slow uncreative football.

The Celtic 'way' is a myth.
the Celtic way (and any clubs 'way') should be the 'winning way'.
I dont give a fcuk what the play looks like if they are winning to be honest.
But recently players bough, team selection, team tacics,how they play and scraping by the likes of st mirren.
Thats no good enough, and I like alot of Celtic fans, dont give a toss about GS 'background'. If he was doing the business, thats all I care.
I hope he can turn it around (to make Celtic better than rangers currently are), but I dont think he is good enough.

IMO
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tyroneman

I don't disagree that MON side played very direct football at times. They did however, when he got over the hoodoo of his first SPL title start to play a lot of entertaining football too.

It annoys me though that WGS has everyone believing him when he trots out the aul patter about his Celtic side playing good passing football. The majority of Celtics play involves the MF passing square /back/ wide (heaven forbid they actually go forward) to the fullbacks or "beckenbaur" Caldwell to hump the ball up to JVoH (a 6'5" forward who can't win headers).

The tempo, as many here have pointed out, is so slow that by the time Celtic have passed the halfway line they are facing 2 rows of 4. The difference now is that Petrov at least could run at people from central MF.