The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Forever Green]

Do people not think that a liquidated Rangers would do Celtic more harm than good?

Surely attracting players would become pretty much impossible and the 'old firm' brand would disappear, as hard as it is to say we need Rangers to remain at least competitive imo

Na, I think it would be better for us and the SPL as a whole. Rangers ruined the SPL. David Murray came in with all that money in the 90s with no other club in the league able to compete with them. Before he did this, the league was very competitive. If the huns do die, I think the other clubs will start to thrive again. Maybe we will dominate the league but at least there will be more teams competing for the European places thus providing more money to the other clubs. An example of something like this happening would be Lyon dominating the French League in the last decade. The league was able to continue to compete in Europe

[Doogie Browser]

Do people not think that a liquidated Rangers would do Celtic more harm than good?

Surely attracting players would become pretty much impossible and the 'old firm' brand would disappear, as hard as it is to say we need Rangers to remain at least competitive imo

Na, I think it would be better for us and the SPL as a whole. Rangers ruined the SPL. David Murray came in with all that money in the 90s with no other club in the league able to compete with them. Before he did this, the league was very competitive. If the huns do die, I think the other clubs will start to thrive again. Maybe we will dominate the league but at least there will be more teams competing for the European places thus providing more money to the other clubs. An example of something like this happening would be Lyon dominating the French League in the last decade. The league was able to continue to compete in Europe

Couldn't disagree more FG, the outside interest (where most of the cash is i.e TV) would decline if Rangers folded, I think they are mutually dependent.   

[Forever Green]

Do people not think that a liquidated Rangers would do Celtic more harm than good?

Surely attracting players would become pretty much impossible and the 'old firm' brand would disappear, as hard as it is to say we need Rangers to remain at least competitive imo

Na, I think it would be better for us and the SPL as a whole. Rangers ruined the SPL. David Murray came in with all that money in the 90s with no other club in the league able to compete with them. Before he did this, the league was very competitive. If the huns do die, I think the other clubs will start to thrive again. Maybe we will dominate the league but at least there will be more teams competing for the European places thus providing more money to the other clubs. An example of something like this happening would be Lyon dominating the French League in the last decade. The league was able to continue to compete in Europe

Couldn't disagree more FG, the outside interest (where most of the cash is i.e TV) would decline if Rangers folded, I think they are mutually dependent.

At the minute though, there isn`t a whole lot of outside interest in the SPL, our TV deal is only worth £1.5-2m each season which isn`t a whole lot to Celtic. We could easily make that up elsewhere. There would be more competition from the likes of Aberdeen, Hibs or even Kilmarnock. Killie brought 25,000 fans to their recent cup semi final, if they were competing at the top of the league and playing in Europe there would be a lot more revenue for them and they wouuld be attracting better players. There are a few clubs in the SPL who are sleeping giants and if they were to acheive some success, they would wake up

[Applesisapples]

Why's Stokes warming the bench? Has he been bold? Reading the reports on Saturday they could have done with him.

[SambaSaffron]

Why's Stokes warming the bench? Has he been bold? Reading the reports on Saturday they could have done with him.

Because Hooper is better than him. Celtic won on Saturday even though the ref was awful and they played a fair bit with 10 men, so I'd say the decision to have him on the bench was proved right.

[lynchbhoy]

while Celtic wont refuse it, the money they get from spl tv revenue is pittance.
the loss of rangers and any loss in tv revenue wont affect them too much.

stokes not playing may be down to the rumours I have heard regarding couple of russian teams sniffing about for hooper- Celtic want to keep him in the shop window - the russian transfer window doesnt close for a few weeks yet I think.
I would have thought that getting bangura (then the polish guy recently a bangura got inj) was cover for hooper as Celtic expected to be selling him I believe.

Stokes was playing far better this past few weeks than Hoper so I was surprised to see him dropped.
unless of course if this russian sale is true.

even if they dont sell him, its good for Celtics run in for the league title!

[Geoff Tipps]

Rangers to go into administration.

[SambaSaffron]

while Celtic wont refuse it, the money they get from spl tv revenue is pittance.
the loss of rangers and any loss in tv revenue wont affect them too much.

stokes not playing may be down to the rumours I have heard regarding couple of russian teams sniffing about for hooper- Celtic want to keep him in the shop window - the russian transfer window doesnt close for a few weeks yet I think.
I would have thought that getting bangura (then the polish guy recently a bangura got inj) was cover for hooper as Celtic expected to be selling him I believe.

Stokes was playing far better this past few weeks than Hoper so I was surprised to see him dropped.
unless of course if this russian sale is true.

even if they dont sell him, its good for Celtics run in for the league title!

I can't imagine Hooper to Russia is true. If he leaves it'll be to a Premiership team. The reason he starts ahead of Stokes is that he plays by himself, with Samaras off him, better than Stokes does. Stokes is much more effective with Hooper alongside him, but Lennon prefers the formation with Samaras and at the minute he is certainly being proven right.

It's unfortunate for Stokes as he hasn't done much wrong.

[lynchbhoy]

while Celtic wont refuse it, the money they get from spl tv revenue is pittance.
the loss of rangers and any loss in tv revenue wont affect them too much.

stokes not playing may be down to the rumours I have heard regarding couple of russian teams sniffing about for hooper- Celtic want to keep him in the shop window - the russian transfer window doesnt close for a few weeks yet I think.
I would have thought that getting bangura (then the polish guy recently a bangura got inj) was cover for hooper as Celtic expected to be selling him I believe.

Stokes was playing far better this past few weeks than Hoper so I was surprised to see him dropped.
unless of course if this russian sale is true.

even if they dont sell him, its good for Celtics run in for the league title!

I can't imagine Hooper to Russia is true. If he leaves it'll be to a Premiership team. The reason he starts ahead of Stokes is that he plays by himself, with Samaras off him, better than Stokes does. Stokes is much more effective with Hooper alongside him, but Lennon prefers the formation with Samaras and at the minute he is certainly being proven right.

It's unfortunate for Stokes as he hasn't done much wrong.

the russia thing is what I heard.

stokes unlucky ?
he is head and shoulders above all the other strikers at Celtic this past few months - I'd imagine the goals scored in the past couple of months should demonstrate how good Stokes has been. Hooper - in comparison to his great form last year isnt in top gear yet after his inj layoff.
thats lennons call though and imo all too often he benches stokes !

[borderfox]

10 years CL money would easily offset the SPL TV revenue. How ironic would it be if Celtic were asked to join the premiership whilst the huns languish in  the lower Scots leagues

[Main Street]

10 years CL money would easily offset the SPL TV revenue. How ironic would it be if Celtic were asked to join the premiership whilst the huns languish in  the lower Scots leagues

Reaching the  group stages of the CL gives a guaranteed minimum of €7m
Celtic earn just £3m p/a from SPL tv revenue

[lynchbhoy]

10 years CL money would easily offset the SPL TV revenue. How ironic would it be if Celtic were asked to join the premiership whilst the huns languish in  the lower Scots leagues

Reaching the  group stages of the CL gives a guaranteed minimum of €7m
Celtic earn just £3m p/a from SPL tv revenue

I thought it was only £1.5m

[SambaSaffron]

Anyone who thinks this is the start of a turn around for Celtic is ignoring Lennon's record as manager. Basically, he wins the games that don't matter and loses the big ones. Celtic could beat most of the teams in Scotland most of the time with Ronnie Corbett as manager. It's the European games and the matches against Rangers which sort the good managers from the duffers. So far, Lennon's a duffer.

Good man.

[SambaSaffron]

while Celtic wont refuse it, the money they get from spl tv revenue is pittance.
the loss of rangers and any loss in tv revenue wont affect them too much.

stokes not playing may be down to the rumours I have heard regarding couple of russian teams sniffing about for hooper- Celtic want to keep him in the shop window - the russian transfer window doesnt close for a few weeks yet I think.
I would have thought that getting bangura (then the polish guy recently a bangura got inj) was cover for hooper as Celtic expected to be selling him I believe.

Stokes was playing far better this past few weeks than Hoper so I was surprised to see him dropped.
unless of course if this russian sale is true.

even if they dont sell him, its good for Celtics run in for the league title!

I can't imagine Hooper to Russia is true. If he leaves it'll be to a Premiership team. The reason he starts ahead of Stokes is that he plays by himself, with Samaras off him, better than Stokes does. Stokes is much more effective with Hooper alongside him, but Lennon prefers the formation with Samaras and at the minute he is certainly being proven right.

It's unfortunate for Stokes as he hasn't done much wrong.

the russia thing is what I heard.

stokes unlucky ?
he is head and shoulders above all the other strikers at Celtic this past few months - I'd imagine the goals scored in the past couple of months should demonstrate how good Stokes has been. Hooper - in comparison to his great form last year isnt in top gear yet after his inj layoff.
thats lennons call though and imo all too often he benches stokes !

I'd wager a larger amount Hooper isn't going to Russia. Hooper has scored 33 in 50, not a bad record! He's also a much better link player and worker than Stokes, who is caught offside way too much. Of the 2 I'd have Hooper every time. Stokes without Hooper never seems to play well.  Lennon is persisting with Samaras, and though I've been a huge critic in the past he's doing well at the minute. For home games, I'd prefer to see Hooper and Stokes both, you can't argue with the selection at the minute though!

[illdecide]

Celtic a few seasons ago def only earned £1.5m from TV revenue, unless last season and this season it has went up (which i doubt) it remains...as far as I'm aware Celtic could earn between £7m and £10m between gate receipts and UEFA money for just in the group stages and if they were to reach the knockout stages then another £3-£4m is added to the £10m