The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Pat Mustard]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14679531.stm

What do you`s think of this? Tbh we deserve to be out and it would be embarrassing to go through this route.

I have calmed down since last night and realised that my comments for Lenny to be sacked were going a bit far but he needs to quickly learn from mistakes like these and continue to develop as a manger. I have still faith that we that we are going to have a clean sweep of titles in Scotland

Embarassing or not, I'd take it. Money is money. It's a tough group we'd get, we'd have been in Pot 2 as opposed to 4 if we'd been in the draw.

Lenny needs to get rid of his fixation with Samaras as well as telling Majstorovic to gtf. Cha can't play big games either.

[Forever Green]

O dear Jesus. This is our group if Sion are thrown out

Athletico Madrid
Rennes
Udinese

Tbh I would be happy enough with Sion going through. f**k that

[Armaghgeddon]

Celtic and Rangers wont move. They would have to give up European Football...kiss goodbye to their success. They would at best achieve mid table status.

[Pat Mustard]

I disagree. The board would move in a second (big bucks) and the opinion of the Celtic support is moving at the minute towards leaving the SPL after Lennon's treatment and many more incidents over the last few years.

[EC Unique]

Would it be fair to move them into the Premiership? Surley the Championship would be the place to start them.

[lynchbhoy]

Would Rangers fans be similiarly indifferent to the national side? If Celtic supporters genuinely aren't bothered about Scotland, then national titles most hold very little value (other than winning a bit of bragging rights over Rangers). With this in mind, I don't see why Celtic haven't made a serious effort to jump ship years ago.

Celtic fans see the title as winning the league. The question of whether it is a national title or not doesnt matter or come into the quation.
Its winning the league that they have entered into.
That they beat their rivals rangers all times or most times in a season is almost as good as winning the title to a lot of them.

Ever since Dermot Desmond bought shares in Celtic in 1994 IIRC he has been trying to get Celtic into the EPL.
the problem is that the EPL wont admit Celtic because the epl clubs majority vote against this.
It will change if they are in financial trouble, but that might never happen.

[lynchbhoy]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.
This was without rangers and these games were bay far , way more enjoyable than the spl matches and also the matchees v rangers as there was no sectarianism, no bitter vitriol and no questions about biased officials.
disputed decisions, but that happens in all games in all leagues.
Celtic would be fine without rangers, in actual fact, it might help difuse the problems in scotland and esp glasgow (though these problems are exaggerated a bit- the problem of the sectairan upbringing still exists - imo more on the rangers side but thats imo) - if for example rangers were to stay in spl and Celtic were to move to epl.
unfortunately they are seen as a package and there is no desire to split them . Incorrectly imo.

[tyroneman]

Folks say Larsson would still get a game with Celtic. I disagree. Lennon would put him on the bench and play Samaras.

[snoopdog]

to think Celtic and Rangers want to join the Premier league. Truth is they would struggle in the 3rd tier of English football.

Aye, because they'd have the same income they have now if they played in the premiership. You absolute clown.

I don't think anyone here was saying Lennon was or is a great manager. A lot of us supported him last season for obvious reasons. I suppose we were wrong to do that?

Muzz, a sending off and goal in the first minute had the effect you'd expect for a team with no confidence away fro home in Europe. It was only in very brief periods where we looked like playing our way in to it. I'm not calling for Lennon's head just yet but in my heart he doesnt have what it takes.

Premier league doesnt need the sectarian biggots . Let them wallow in their own filth 

[laoislad]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.

Did they?
How many times have they made it out of the Group stages in the Champions League?

[laoislad]

Would it be fair to move them into the Premiership? Surley the Championship would be the place to start them.

Sure let them enter the Premier League,they would both be in the Championship the following season anyways.

[Minder]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.

Did they?
How many times have they made it out of the Group stages in the Champions League?

Once, with the much derided WGS..........

[laoislad]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.

Did they?
How many times have they made it out of the Group stages in the Champions League?

Once, with the much derided WGS..........

You'd hardly say they prospered in the CL so would you?

[Minder]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.

Did they?
How many times have they made it out of the Group stages in the Champions League?

Once, with the much derided WGS..........

You'd hardly say they prospered in the CL so would you?

No just that they made it out of the group stages once under Wee Gordon.

[updown9194]

There's a huge difference between not caring about the national side and not caring about the league. Scottish Rangers fans wouldn't be as indifferent to the national side, although there's still a fair few of them who don't give a toss about Scotland.
The bragging rights has generally been enough, plus I think most realise the upheaval required of possibly going through the lower divisions etc. Celtic wouldn't survive without Rangers and vice versa, IMO.

I completely disagree with that.
Celtic propsered when first getting into CL.

Did they?
How many times have they made it out of the Group stages in the Champions League?

Once, with the much derided WGS..........

You'd hardly say they prospered in the CL so would you?

No just that they made it out of the group stages once under Wee Gordon.

Actually, in two consecutive years--2006/7 and 2007/8.