The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

Started by Gaoth Dobhair Abu, January 26, 2007, 10:41:11 AM

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bingobus

As a side to the managerial issue, why was Celtic fans waving womens knickers? This at McGregor?


T Fearon

There seems to be people on here who are happy with any manager in the Celtic hotseat,as long as its not Strachan, and to hell with the results etc! For the record, that year Celtic played Rangers 5 times, and the record read 2 wins, 2 defeats and 1 draw. This year we have managed one draw and two defeats out of three games, yet we are led to believe that "unlike Strachan's, at least Mowbray's teams look like beating Rangers?"

FFS This league has been handed to Rangers on a plate, yet they are skint and haven't signed a player since John Terry was a virgin etc. Contrast that with the Irish League, and the Glentoran manager resigns yet his side aren't half as many poinmts behind Linfield as Celtic are behind Rangers.

You can harp on about referees etc, but the fact that Mowbray is out of his depth cannot be disguised. Useless in the Europa League (where there is no referee bais and the qualifiers from the group are being hammered in the knock out stages by teams we've never heard of), useless in the CIS Cup, useless in the SPL, Mowbray is outsmarted by the likes of Brown and Calderwood, never mind Walter Smith.

The substitutions yesterday were plain crazy, Keane at half pace allowed to stay on, Mc Geady (who was getting lumps kicked out of him) removed and later the even more lightweight Ki was thrown in amongst a bunch of hammerthrowrers etc.

The guy simply hasn't a clue. Write this season off but identify a replacement now.

Hedley Lamarr

Any chance of "King of Kings" Henrik coming to the rescue?
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tyroneStatto

rumours on other forums are that mowbray had tendered his resignation but was talked into staying on until the end of the season.

if this is true why wait until the summer to replace someone who wants to go now? would be better to get a replacement now and build now for next season.

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Quote from: clarshack on March 01, 2010, 12:13:37 PM
rumours on other forums are that mowbray had tendered his resignation but was talked into staying on until the end of the season.

if this is true why wait until the summer to replace someone who wants to go now? would be better to get a replacement now and build now for next season.

Heard someone saying yesterday that Celtic had approached Mark Hughes during the week - don't believe it myself.
As for yesterdays match, shocking refereeing decisions and we played pretty poorly in the second half, its not going to change anything in the short term.
Btw I still think theres a slim chance of the flag coming to Parkhead this season, would obviously need the Huns to implode and Celtic to go on an unbeaten run to the last day - still possible, but lets just say I'll not be putting any money on it.  ;)
Tbc....

T Fearon

I think we all must accept that the league race is over, and for the first time since John Barnes, we are not going to be either Champions or involved in the title race until the very last day of the season. That is how far things have regressed in a mere half a season,and its nothing short of shameful given the respective current resources of Rangers and Celtic. If Rangers were miraculously banned from playing another game this season, I still wouldn't bet on Celtic winning the league, such is the current shambles.

I thought Strachan's side last season needed minimal alterations, ie a proven goalscorer, a midfield replacement for Nakamura, and a left back. Mowbray has destroyed the nucleus of a team adequate to challenge for the league yet not one of his replacements show iota of a hint that they are better than those released,and in fact there is evidence to show thery are not nearly as good.

Add to that the wretched form of Mc Geady etc and you et a scale of the mess that has been made.

lynchbhoy

btw - centre halves were looking better than what Celtic had before Christmas or when strachan was manager. One unlucky goal conceeded in inj time with 10 men...
thats as good a def perf as any of strachans last season or strachans first choice centre halves -so wigan and boro are welcome to them !

I think most people were behind strachan as manager and didnt care wheter he was not a celtic fan etc- but he had rubbish players in the side and his last 16 forrays were undone by his artmedia bratislavia and shakthar fiascos. So cant say that mowbray following on from strachan handicapping the side by throwing away last years leage to push Celtic into the CL qualfiers and not doing well in europa leage is any worse than last season.

as for paranoia - well the last three games v rangers the refs have been the cause of Celtic not winning. Yesterday the Celtic players were getting clogged right left and centre. Robbie keane was kicked through each time and there should have been a sending off in the first half which may have ended rangers thuggery and by allowing soccer to be played would have seen Celtic no doubt win - esp against 10 (even 9) men.
But the rules go out the window it seems when rangers play Celtic , yesterdays game a great example of that - it is not a case of people being paranoid - the ref allowed dirty and late tackles, thuggery and intimidation towards Celtic players and that stops a team from playing. anyone who has played knows that.
Mowbray is no MON, but he is as good as strachan. Whether he is there next season or not, at least there will be a better group of players for the start of next year in comparison to the start of this season !

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lynchbhoy

Quote from: T Fearon on March 01, 2010, 12:56:51 PM
I think we all must accept that the league race is over, and for the first time since John Barnes, we are not going to be either Champions or involved in the title race until the very last day of the season. That is how far things have regressed in a mere half a season,and its nothing short of shameful given the respective current resources of Rangers and Celtic. If Rangers were miraculously banned from playing another game this season, I still wouldn't bet on Celtic winning the league, such is the current shambles.

I thought Strachan's side last season needed minimal alterations, ie a proven goalscorer, a midfield replacement for Nakamura, and a left back. Mowbray has destroyed the nucleus of a team adequate to challenge for the league yet not one of his replacements show iota of a hint that they are better than those released,and in fact there is evidence to show thery are not nearly as good.

Add to that the wretched form of Mc Geady etc and you et a scale of the mess that has been made.
strachans teams for his entire tenure required decent centre halves, a left back, left winger (as naka was too lightweight for most of the games) and two strikers.
However strachan sold the young promising LB Mulgrew after falling out with him, sidelined McGeady after - yes you guesed it- falling out with him and failed to sign scoring strikers - esp a six yard box poacher. Scott mcdonald was ok for the spl but notgood enough imo and I said that as he joined an dthroughout his career at Celtic.
So dont go saying strachan signed players for positions that were obviously lacking and mowbray didnt - at least mogga did take steps (way too late imo) by getting players in at Christmas.
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T Fearon

I'd still take any of Strachan's teams ahead of the current mess, and he delivered trophies as well.

At the end of the day you can argue plus and minuses etc, but it is my simple contention that with the salary they're paying and resources they have (ie to spend on players), in contrast to their rivals, Celtic should be able to recruit a manager of sufficient calibre and nous to win the Scottish League or at least sustain a credible challenge, as they have done for the last decade, and a Hiddink like figure is hardly required.

Strachan did all that was asked of him, but Mowbray cannot and will not deliver, and I said this all along

lynchbhoy

yer giving comparisons, but when these are actually compared and smashed - you go off on other tangents - ie namely money...even then strachan had more to spend than mowbray
strachan lost two leagues when his teams capitulated to rangers after having being 9 - 10 points ahead at one stage.
Cast your mind back, strachans team did not win the league last season, the rangers team then were in a worse condition than they are now ! they have stability.
if you want to compare, then Mowbray has to be given a few seasons in charge like strachan was. Only then can you compare. Half a season through (andeven a few months into the job) people are whinging about a new manager when he doesnt win all around him.
I think the likes of MON and Alex ferguson as wll as mourinho at Chelsea shows that your kind of impatience doesnt augur well for the development of any team or manager !

If Celtic had the cash to spend they would have brought in a more exp manager- I wish they did, but with feck all cash to spend , they have to go for bargain basement managers like strachan and mowbray until something better comes along.
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Celt_Man

Anyone have any links to highlights of the game?  Didn't get to see any of it and I'm not sure I can stomach brief highlights....
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J OGorman

Quote from: Celt_Man on March 01, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
Anyone have any links to highlights of the game?  Didn't get to see any of it and I'm not sure I can stomach brief highlights....

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/4905247/

bingobus


Celt_Man

Quote from: J OGorman on March 01, 2010, 03:28:40 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 01, 2010, 03:20:06 PM
Anyone have any links to highlights of the game?  Didn't get to see any of it and I'm not sure I can stomach brief highlights....

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/4905247/

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Celt_Man

Yep highlights were as depressing as I thought they would be.... >:( >:(

Sending off was a joke, one was as bad as the other. Two yellows would have been enough but one went the other had to walk to.

Boruc should have held onto the ball for the goal, maybe not the first time but definitely the second....
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