The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[deiseach]

It's interesting how fans of Scottish football say in one breath that money is the reason that Scotland has fallen behind England then in the next breath reject that there is a gap at all because Tam O' Shanter FC beat Old Etonians back in the day. Stick to the former excuse, lads. You know it makes sense.

[tyroneman]

Paper talk is mcgeady for £5mill and brown for £10mill to spurs. Would take the offer for brown in a sec as another non scoring headless chicken is easily found. Would expect similar price for mcgeady.  All proceeds to be spent on a proper 20 goal striker and creative midfielder

[Main Street]

But unlike the eircom league sides, these scots teams can actually play soccer !

We'll see one form line tonight in how a mid LOI division team,Pats, get on with Steau as compared to Motherwell's efforts in the last round.

[Main Street]

There was no gap between Celtic and the top 6 EPL teams  just 6 or 7 years ago.
I'd have little doubt that Mons team could have held their own in the top 6 of the EPl, possibly even finish 3rd or 4th at their best

The gap has widened. The reason for the widening gap is down to finance pure and simple. Celtic have cut their financial cloth accordingly. Those leading EPL clubs have taken on massive debt., eg. 95% of Man U profit  goes to service its debt.
EPL brand customers throwing jibes about Celtics standards these days, can't see further than their noses.

I'd have little doubt that Celtic could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

[Myles Na G.]

Money hasn't just widened the gap between the SPL and EPL. It has dramatically increased the gap between Celtic, Rangers and the rest of the SPL. Difficult to imagine a team like Fergie's Aberdeen emerging to challenge the Old Firm these days. As soon as any talent emerges in the other sides, Celtic and Rangers step in and hoover it up. When you look at how the likes of Derek Riordan fared at Parkhead, you have to say that it's not always good for these individuals, never mind the Scottish game. Willo Flood seems to heading down the same road.

[red hander]

Just posted on the Reds' website


Cliftonville Football Club are delighted to announce a special Exhibition Challenge match against Celtic as part of our 130th Anniversary Celebrations this season.
No date has yet been set for the fixture and it is anticipated that such details will be finalised once Celtic's European schedule has been determined.
The Club would like to pay tribute to everyone whose hard work behind the scenes has made the occasion possible, including Manager Eddie Patterson.
Confirming the fixture, proud Chairman Gerard Lawlor explained: "This is something that we can all look forward to and I am absolutely delighted that we have been able to secure one of the world's biggest Football Clubs to officially open our new stand and facilities at Solitude.
"A lot of people have put so much effort into ensuring that the game will take place and special credit must be paid to Eddie Patterson for his endeavours in helping bring Celtic to Solitude.
"I must also pass on my thanks to the Association of Celtic Supporters' Clubs whose assistance was vital and I hope that everyone associated with Cliftonville Football Club enjoys every second of what I have no doubt will be a fantastic occasion."
Bossman Patterson, who has led his team into European encounters against Latvian, Belgian and Danish opposition over the last couple of years, admits it will be a whole new test to pit his wits against Tony Mowbray.
"Like everyone else at Cliftonville, I'm delighted we have been able to get this game confirmed," he said.
"It's a match that we're already relishing and, wonderful an occasion though the European games against the likes of Copenhagen were, this will really be something else - and the fact it will be at Solitude only adds to it."

[Master Yoda]

There was no gap between Celtic and the top 6 EPL teams  just 6 or 7 years ago.
I'd have little doubt that Mons team could have held their own in the top 6 of the EPl, possibly even finish 3rd or 4th at their best

The gap has widened. The reason for the widening gap is down to finance pure and simple. Celtic have cut their financial cloth accordingly. Those leading EPL clubs have taken on massive debt., eg. 95% of Man U profit  goes to service its debt.
EPL brand customers throwing jibes about Celtics standards these days, can't see further than their noses.

I'd have little doubt that Celtic could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

Celtic or Rangers wouldn't finish in the top half of the EPL, I think they would be doing well not to be relegated.

[lynchbhoy]

Money hasn't just widened the gap between the SPL and EPL. It has dramatically increased the gap between Celtic, Rangers and the rest of the SPL. Difficult to imagine a team like Fergie's Aberdeen emerging to challenge the Old Firm these days. As soon as any talent emerges in the other sides, Celtic and Rangers step in and hoover it up. When you look at how the likes of Derek Riordan fared at Parkhead, you have to say that it's not always good for these individuals, never mind the Scottish game. Willo Flood seems to heading down the same road.

did you not see the spl last season?
the gap was closing if anything !

as for riordan, GS fell out with him and we know what happens there.
Flood was bought by strachan and maybe isnt Moggas cup of tea, thats sport !

As for Celtic being relegated in the epl. Nope cant see that. Even with the current squad, theyd still do better than some of the bottom 6-10 teams imo.
then with some of the minimum 20 million to spend, it would enhance their prospects. Two to three years would see them top six and thereafter would depend on who is their manager (eg MON in a season or two would have them vying for the title!)

[Main Street]

could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

Celtic or Rangers wouldn't finish in the top half of the EPL, I think they would be doing well not to be relegated.

With the same financial income as the bottom epl team?
You can think what you like. Facts of recent enough football history, outlined in this thread, speak otherwise.

[anportmorforjfc]

There was no gap between Celtic and the top 6 EPL teams  just 6 or 7 years ago.
I'd have little doubt that Mons team could have held their own in the top 6 of the EPl, possibly even finish 3rd or 4th at their best

The gap has widened. The reason for the widening gap is down to finance pure and simple. Celtic have cut their financial cloth accordingly. Those leading EPL clubs have taken on massive debt., eg. 95% of Man U profit  goes to service its debt.
EPL brand customers throwing jibes about Celtics standards these days, can't see further than their noses.

I'd have little doubt that Celtic could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

Celtic or Rangers wouldn't finish in the top half of the EPL, I think they would be doing well not to be relegated.

have to agree with that. i think celtic especially would struggle in epl

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

There was no gap between Celtic and the top 6 EPL teams  just 6 or 7 years ago.
I'd have little doubt that Mons team could have held their own in the top 6 of the EPl, possibly even finish 3rd or 4th at their best

The gap has widened. The reason for the widening gap is down to finance pure and simple. Celtic have cut their financial cloth accordingly. Those leading EPL clubs have taken on massive debt., eg. 95% of Man U profit  goes to service its debt.
EPL brand customers throwing jibes about Celtics standards these days, can't see further than their noses.

I'd have little doubt that Celtic could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

Celtic or Rangers wouldn't finish in the top half of the EPL, I think they would be doing well not to be relegated.

have to agree with that. i think celtic especially would struggle in epl

Absolute crap, where's your reasons, evidence etc for making such a stupid statement - oh hold on your just trying to be a WUM. 

[Eastern_Pride]

There was no gap between Celtic and the top 6 EPL teams  just 6 or 7 years ago.
I'd have little doubt that Mons team could have held their own in the top 6 of the EPl, possibly even finish 3rd or 4th at their best

The gap has widened. The reason for the widening gap is down to finance pure and simple. Celtic have cut their financial cloth accordingly. Those leading EPL clubs have taken on massive debt., eg. 95% of Man U profit  goes to service its debt.
EPL brand customers throwing jibes about Celtics standards these days, can't see further than their noses.

I'd have little doubt that Celtic could now compete amongst the also rans for a 5th or 6th position in the EPl given the same financial resources that the bottom EPL club receives.

Celtic or Rangers wouldn't finish in the top half of the EPL, I think they would be doing well not to be relegated.

I really doubt that saying that they have more european class players than Everton or Aston Villa. 5th or 6th would be a good result but cop on, Celtic-Stoke? Yeah Stoke are big favourites...Burnley-Rangers? Has to be Rangers 

[Eastern_Pride]

Chelsea had success before Roman money came to Stamford bridge though, a face quite a lot of football fans seem to miss to suit their own argument.

My whole argument precisely.

before amhramovitz's money ....but not before hardings money

certainly the resurgence of chelsea from the div 2 oblivion was kickstarted by massive financial investment.
roman A's additional investment raised them a level higher.

...but chelsea et al didnt buy their way to the top 
Celtic would do likewise if they had the funds. All clubs do - so dont go fooling yoursleves lads !
chelsea did buy their way up ! and then up again !

Is that not what I've been saying if you read my original quote?

so you are in agreement that chelsea didnt buy their success?
my original point wasnt actually in reply to you !
Just picked your quote at random more or less as it seemed to indicate that chelsea didnt buy success - from either roman a, or any other wealthy benefactor.

It was continual success, Abramavich just kind of, "kick-started" it. Most teams buy success. Blackburn 94/95.

[full back]

According to Daily Record to-day West Ham are interested in Samaras?

If Celtic are so far behind the EPL how come there's so much interest in Brown, Mc Geady, Samaras etc

Look at the teams interested in them FFS
West Ham & the spuds - 8th & 9th in the PL last season, enough said

And lets be honest, they wouldnt exactly be the best players on the team

[cavan4ever]

According to Daily Record to-day West Ham are interested in Samaras?

If Celtic are so far behind the EPL how come there's so much interest in Brown, Mc Geady, Samaras etc

I hope spurs dont buy any of them anyway.