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Applesisapples

Quote from: statto on June 08, 2023, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 08, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
If you don't like the SPL don't watch it. The PL would be shite if it wasn't for the foreign money and Sky/BT funds bringing in players fro around the world. Ange just proved that he is motivated by money and that's his prerogative so much for we never quit. Fair play to him though he will earn more at Tottenham in 2 years than he would have earned at Celtic in the next 4 which was probably his limit. He's a professional manager with little or no emotional attachment.

What would Ange have been on at Celtic vs what he would get at Spurs?  While he got the spurs job by default, the fact he plays a decent brand of football may get him some buy in from Spurs fans certainly initially.  Conte/Mourinho were brought in as serial winners and couldn't get the job done and there was frustrations around the style of play.  Can see this playing out as "sure he only won in Scotland should never have got the job etc" similar to Gerrard when things went belly up at Villa as Spurs would appear to be a poison chalice. 

If he didn't take the chance with Spurs he could have been accused of lack of ambition?  What is the glass ceiling for a Celtic Manager?

Celtic supporters responded in a similar fashion when Rodgers left slating manager who had did a great job.
I'm not bitching about him leaving, I understand why he has to capitalise on his potential. I'm just a bit sick of the "we never stop" mantra and purported love of the club. Be honest it's a job I'll do the best I can and move on. Celtic fans are too quick to deify managers who always let them down.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Applesisapples on June 08, 2023, 02:25:16 PM
Quote from: statto on June 08, 2023, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 08, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
If you don't like the SPL don't watch it. The PL would be shite if it wasn't for the foreign money and Sky/BT funds bringing in players fro around the world. Ange just proved that he is motivated by money and that's his prerogative so much for we never quit. Fair play to him though he will earn more at Tottenham in 2 years than he would have earned at Celtic in the next 4 which was probably his limit. He's a professional manager with little or no emotional attachment.

What would Ange have been on at Celtic vs what he would get at Spurs?  While he got the spurs job by default, the fact he plays a decent brand of football may get him some buy in from Spurs fans certainly initially.  Conte/Mourinho were brought in as serial winners and couldn't get the job done and there was frustrations around the style of play.  Can see this playing out as "sure he only won in Scotland should never have got the job etc" similar to Gerrard when things went belly up at Villa as Spurs would appear to be a poison chalice. 

If he didn't take the chance with Spurs he could have been accused of lack of ambition?  What is the glass ceiling for a Celtic Manager?

Celtic supporters responded in a similar fashion when Rodgers left slating manager who had did a great job.
I'm not bitching about him leaving, I understand why he has to capitalise on his potential. I'm just a bit sick of the "we never stop" mantra and purported love of the club. Be honest it's a job I'll do the best I can and move on. Celtic fans are too quick to deify managers who always let them down.

Did he say he was staying for life? f**k me! It's a job and and any fool that stays in a lesser paying job with the same pressures needs their heads looked at
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

ned

As apples said it wasn't him leaving, it was what he said, especially in the last two weeks, that has riled a lot of supporters.
Celtic supporters knew this was likely to happen but most thought maybe in a year or two. I don't begrudge him taking the opportunity and in the end it all happened very swiftly. Up until April Ange may not have thought his chance would have come so soon but he had to take it when it presented. What we have experienced in the past 2 years has been brilliant.

marty34

Quote from: ned on June 08, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
As apples said it wasn't him leaving, it was what he said, especially in the last two weeks, that has riled a lot of supporters.
Celtic supporters knew this was likely to happen but most thought maybe in a year or two. I don't begrudge him taking the opportunity and in the end it all happened very swiftly. Up until April Ange may not have thought his chance would have come so soon but he had to take it when it presented. What we have experienced in the past 2 years has been brilliant.

He said "people will be surprised how long I'm here" i.e. at Celtic.

Not sure what to take from that.  I think he's ok as a manager but got found out in Europe big time.  Leaked goals defensively and couldn't set up a team away feom home so he has a lot to do in terms of improvement.

His motto is 'we don't stop' but his gung ho attitude isn't good in Europe.  Teams in Premiership will be a big step up so he needs to learn quickly.  He bought some duds but every manager does this.

Be interesting to see who he buys - will he take any Celtic players with him?

seafoid

Quote from: marty34 on June 08, 2023, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: ned on June 08, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
As apples said it wasn't him leaving, it was what he said, especially in the last two weeks, that has riled a lot of supporters.
Celtic supporters knew this was likely to happen but most thought maybe in a year or two. I don't begrudge him taking the opportunity and in the end it all happened very swiftly. Up until April Ange may not have thought his chance would have come so soon but he had to take it when it presented. What we have experienced in the past 2 years has been brilliant.

He said "people will be surprised how long I'm here" i.e. at Celtic.

Not sure what to take from that.  I think he's ok as a manager but got found out in Europe big time.  Leaked goals defensively and couldn't set up a team away feom home so he has a lot to do in terms of improvement.

His motto is 'we don't stop' but his gung ho attitude isn't good in Europe.  Teams in Premiership will be a big step up so he needs to learn quickly.  He bought some duds but every manager does this.

Be interesting to see who he buys - will he take any Celtic players with him?
The most important metric in soccer is the value of the squad. The squads of Celtic and Rangers are worth 120m

Shaktar are worth 104m
Leipzig are worth 487m
Real are worth 860m

Other third ranked teams
RB Salzburg 227m
Sporting CP 234m
Sevilla 209m

Celtic were lucky to get a team from Eastern Europe. Maybe they could have beaten Shaktar in 2 years' time with experience.
But they wouldn't beat Salzburg or Sevilla because they don't have the same budget .

By the same token Rangers could never beat Liverpool.

bennydorano

See social media posts saying Maresca is our man, to be announced after the CL Final

marty34

Quote from: bennydorano on June 08, 2023, 09:48:22 PM
See social media posts saying Maresca is our man, to be announced after the CL Final

Is Desmond spending the cash?

Applesisapples

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 08, 2023, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 08, 2023, 02:25:16 PM
Quote from: statto on June 08, 2023, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 08, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
If you don't like the SPL don't watch it. The PL would be shite if it wasn't for the foreign money and Sky/BT funds bringing in players fro around the world. Ange just proved that he is motivated by money and that's his prerogative so much for we never quit. Fair play to him though he will earn more at Tottenham in 2 years than he would have earned at Celtic in the next 4 which was probably his limit. He's a professional manager with little or no emotional attachment.

What would Ange have been on at Celtic vs what he would get at Spurs?  While he got the spurs job by default, the fact he plays a decent brand of football may get him some buy in from Spurs fans certainly initially.  Conte/Mourinho were brought in as serial winners and couldn't get the job done and there was frustrations around the style of play.  Can see this playing out as "sure he only won in Scotland should never have got the job etc" similar to Gerrard when things went belly up at Villa as Spurs would appear to be a poison chalice. 

If he didn't take the chance with Spurs he could have been accused of lack of ambition?  What is the glass ceiling for a Celtic Manager?

Celtic supporters responded in a similar fashion when Rodgers left slating manager who had did a great job.
I'm not bitching about him leaving, I understand why he has to capitalise on his potential. I'm just a bit sick of the "we never stop" mantra and purported love of the club. Be honest it's a job I'll do the best I can and move on. Celtic fans are too quick to deify managers who always let them down.

Did he say he was staying for life? f**k me! It's a job and and any fool that stays in a lesser paying job with the same pressures needs their heads looked at
Exactly

No1

Looks like Brendan Rodgers.  I'd take that but a lot of boys won't be happy!

general_lee

Quote from: No1 on June 14, 2023, 09:09:45 AM
Looks like Brendan Rodgers.  I'd take that but a lot of boys won't be happy!
I'm quite happy to have BR back in if I'm honest.

Applesisapples

Quote from: No1 on June 14, 2023, 09:09:45 AM
Looks like Brendan Rodgers.  I'd take that but a lot of boys won't be happy!
Disappointed it's not Neil, but sure second best.

marty34

Reports that Leeds are interested in him also.

With Rogers, I'd say that Desmond has a big input in that deal once again.  They seem to have a good relationship.

Will a few lads leave now? Need a decent European campaign now to boost things as the league is poor. Celtic and the board need to push on in Europe.  Smaller clubs than Celtic do it.

That'll be my yardstick this year, especially when they got straight into the Champion's League group stages.

Orior

As well as his match management skills, Rogers might be better at bringing in quality players.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

BrotherMore6592

Great for Celtic , much better than Lennon IMHO but a giant step back for BR after being at Liverpool and Leicester.

It's like managing Dortmund and say Moenchengladbach in the German league now he's with some minnow outfit in Eastern Europe that romps their league or only has one competitor every year.

seafoid

Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on June 14, 2023, 02:46:24 PM
Great for Celtic , much better than Lennon IMHO but a giant step back for BR after being at Liverpool and Leicester.

It's like managing Dortmund and say Moenchengladbach in the German league now he's with some minnow outfit in Eastern Europe that romps their league or only has one competitor every year.
It's probably his last management stint. The business is ruthless