The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Angelo]

Can only assume you've got embarrassed in real life this morning and you're on here playing the big fella trying to make yourself feel good again and important. 

you should take a break fella and talk to someone.

You seem to be a little rattled by the fact that your beloved EPL is a fallacy. I think you should be looking inward rather than projecting your insecurities.

Not at all wee man, serious entertainment of a Friday afternoon.

You're actually beyond parody at this stage.

Sure last week he was on here arguing that Villa and the likes are big clubs but not they're all tinpot clubs and Celtic are the biggest club in the world. Strange man.

All I have said is that Celtic are bigger than the likes of Everton, West Ham and Crystal Palace and the sole reason players choose these teams over Celtic is the money on offer.

It seems to have upset a lot of the anglophiles on this board though.

[screenexile]

Anyone want to list the European giants who have embarrassed Celtic in the last decade?

You full of it.

Celtic have beaten Lazio twice, RB Leipzig, Lille, Anderlecht, Rennes among others in the past few years.

Everton on their last time in Europe lost 8-1 to Atalanta and 5-1 to Lyon over the two games in their group stage.

That will clearly hurt an EPL barstooler like yourself.

HUGE clubs there massive!!!

RB Leipzig were in a CL semi final last year.

Lazio are an absolutely massive club.

How the f**k are Lazio an absolutely massive club?? I can easily set out the case for Everton being the "bigger" club!!

[michaelg]

Can only assume you've got embarrassed in real life this morning and you're on here playing the big fella trying to make yourself feel good again and important. 

you should take a break fella and talk to someone.

You seem to be a little rattled by the fact that your beloved EPL is a fallacy. I think you should be looking inward rather than projecting your insecurities.

Not at all wee man, serious entertainment of a Friday afternoon.

You're actually beyond parody at this stage.

Sure last week he was on here arguing that Villa and the likes are big clubs but not they're all tinpot clubs and Celtic are the biggest club in the world. Strange man.

All I have said is that Celtic are bigger than the likes of Everton, West Ham and Crystal Palace and the sole reason players choose these teams over Celtic is the money on offer.

It seems to have upset a lot of the anglophiles on this board though.

You do know it is a professional sport?

[Angelo]

Can only assume you've got embarrassed in real life this morning and you're on here playing the big fella trying to make yourself feel good again and important. 

you should take a break fella and talk to someone.

You seem to be a little rattled by the fact that your beloved EPL is a fallacy. I think you should be looking inward rather than projecting your insecurities.

Not at all wee man, serious entertainment of a Friday afternoon.

You're actually beyond parody at this stage.

Sure last week he was on here arguing that Villa and the likes are big clubs but not they're all tinpot clubs and Celtic are the biggest club in the world. Strange man.

All I have said is that Celtic are bigger than the likes of Everton, West Ham and Crystal Palace and the sole reason players choose these teams over Celtic is the money on offer.

It seems to have upset a lot of the anglophiles on this board though.

You do know it is a professional sport?

I do.

But money is the only factor a player would choose a midtable EPL side over Celtic.

It's why those sides have such high wage bills.

[JimStynes]

Can only assume you've got embarrassed in real life this morning and you're on here playing the big fella trying to make yourself feel good again and important. 

you should take a break fella and talk to someone.

You seem to be a little rattled by the fact that your beloved EPL is a fallacy. I think you should be looking inward rather than projecting your insecurities.

Not at all wee man, serious entertainment of a Friday afternoon.

You're actually beyond parody at this stage.

Sure last week he was on here arguing that Villa and the likes are big clubs but not they're all tinpot clubs and Celtic are the biggest club in the world. Strange man.

All I have said is that Celtic are bigger than the likes of Everton, West Ham and Crystal Palace and the sole reason players choose these teams over Celtic is the money on offer.

It seems to have upset a lot of the anglophiles on this board though.

You do know it is a professional sport?

I do.

But money is the only factor a player would choose a midtable EPL side over Celtic.

It's why those sides have such high wage bills.

Playing in one of the best leagues in the world against some of the best players in the world be a huge pull as well. Celtic usually only get high profile players at the end of their careers. They'd rather spend their career playing in the best league.

[Angelo]

Can only assume you've got embarrassed in real life this morning and you're on here playing the big fella trying to make yourself feel good again and important. 

you should take a break fella and talk to someone.

You seem to be a little rattled by the fact that your beloved EPL is a fallacy. I think you should be looking inward rather than projecting your insecurities.

Not at all wee man, serious entertainment of a Friday afternoon.

You're actually beyond parody at this stage.

Sure last week he was on here arguing that Villa and the likes are big clubs but not they're all tinpot clubs and Celtic are the biggest club in the world. Strange man.

All I have said is that Celtic are bigger than the likes of Everton, West Ham and Crystal Palace and the sole reason players choose these teams over Celtic is the money on offer.

It seems to have upset a lot of the anglophiles on this board though.

You do know it is a professional sport?

I do.

But money is the only factor a player would choose a midtable EPL side over Celtic.

It's why those sides have such high wage bills.

Playing in one of the best leagues in the world against some of the best players in the world be a huge pull as well. Celtic usually only get high profile players at the end of their careers. They'd rather spend their career playing in the best league.

Why do players  need to be paid a premium if that's the case? That's where your argument falls down. Players want to win and be successful and teams like Everton and West Ham do not win trophies, do not play European football and play out mediocrity. People run down the SPL, they so from a point of ignorance. If you asked any player who played for West Ham or Everton and ask them who they thought was a bigger club between them and Celtic and which club they found the most pressure playing for - I can guarantee you very few would pick midtable EPL clubs.

[Angelo]

Here is what Rodgers said about Celtic when he left for Leicester.


"It wasn't just a get up and go. It probably seemed that because of the situation but the club was in a really good situation.
"We had won seven trophies in a row, we'd created a professional mindset within the squad and within the culture.
"The team were able to go and win the league by nine points and go on and win the next two cup competitions and achieve the 'Treble treble'.
"I was then given the opportunity to come to Leicester, which isn't as big a club as Celtic, of course, but the challenge and professional challenge of taking a club into the top six was going to be a huge challenge for us.
"And that is something at every club I have gone into I have always wanted."

This came in a season where Rodgers was not backed by the Celtic board, had a massive fallout with Lawwell over missing out on McGinn due to the biscuit tin mentality.

There is also the factor of his salary now, at Celtic Rodgers earned about £2m a year. He got a £5m a year contract at Leicester when he left and signed a new one last season that took him to £10m a year.

[JimStynes]

You're not understanding me. Celtic are much bigger than all those clubs with the exception of 2 or 3 in the EPL but they're nowhere near as attractive to play for. The best players want to play in the best leagues and against the best players. Celtic aren't in that bracket anymore and haven't been for a long time. The likes of Di Canio etc would all say Celtic were a bigger club but they still went to play for mid table EPL teams. Do you think it offered the same money the top players in the world would play for Celtic or Everton? I'd say the majority of them would pick Everton. If Celtic start competing in champions leagues and regularly start qualifying for the knockout stages then that's a different conversation. But that isn't the case. They can't even win  europa league game ffs.

[Angelo]

You're not understanding me. Celtic are much bigger than all those clubs with the exception of 2 or 3 in the EPL but they're nowhere near as attractive to play for. The best players want to play in the best leagues and against the best players. Celtic aren't in that bracket anymore and haven't been for a long time. The likes of Di Canio etc would all say Celtic were a bigger club but they still went to play for mid table EPL teams. Do you think it offered the same money the top players in the world would play for Celtic or Everton? I'd say the majority of them would pick Everton. If Celtic start competing in champions leagues and regularly start qualifying for the knockout stages then that's a different conversation. But that isn't the case. They can't even win  europa league game ffs.

For money. Nothing else. Money.

Di Canio, Van Hooijdonk etc were all very clear that they were leaving Celtic because of the biscuit tin mentality. Remember Van Hooijdonk's famous homeless comment about his Celtic contract?

[Milltown Row2]

You're not understanding me. Celtic are much bigger than all those clubs with the exception of 2 or 3 in the EPL but they're nowhere near as attractive to play for. The best players want to play in the best leagues and against the best players. Celtic aren't in that bracket anymore and haven't been for a long time. The likes of Di Canio etc would all say Celtic were a bigger club but they still went to play for mid table EPL teams. Do you think it offered the same money the top players in the world would play for Celtic or Everton? I'd say the majority of them would pick Everton. If Celtic start competing in champions leagues and regularly start qualifying for the knockout stages then that's a different conversation. But that isn't the case. They can't even win  europa league game ffs.

For money. Nothing else. Money.

Di Canio, Van Hooijdonk etc were all very clear that they were leaving Celtic because of the biscuit tin mentality. Remember Van Hooijdonk's famous homeless comment about his Celtic contract?

Do players play for free for Celtic?  Or an easy avenue into the Europa league?

[Angelo]

You're not understanding me. Celtic are much bigger than all those clubs with the exception of 2 or 3 in the EPL but they're nowhere near as attractive to play for. The best players want to play in the best leagues and against the best players. Celtic aren't in that bracket anymore and haven't been for a long time. The likes of Di Canio etc would all say Celtic were a bigger club but they still went to play for mid table EPL teams. Do you think it offered the same money the top players in the world would play for Celtic or Everton? I'd say the majority of them would pick Everton. If Celtic start competing in champions leagues and regularly start qualifying for the knockout stages then that's a different conversation. But that isn't the case. They can't even win  europa league game ffs.

For money. Nothing else. Money.

Di Canio, Van Hooijdonk etc were all very clear that they were leaving Celtic because of the biscuit tin mentality. Remember Van Hooijdonk's famous homeless comment about his Celtic contract?

Do players play for free for Celtic?  Or an easy avenue into the Europa league?

No they play for significantly less.

Stuart Armstrong is a good example. In and out of the Celtic team under Rodgers, left Celtic where he was earning £10k a week for Southampton where he got £50k a week.

Ryan Christie is currently on £8k a week, Ajer on £10k pw, Edouard on £20k pw. All these players are running their contracts down at present as they know they can get multiples of what Celtic will offer them in England. Celtic will not sign any player on upwards of £25k a week. All these players are highly likely to move to the EPL next year and sign contracts for well in excess of £50k a week.

It's the biscuit tin mentality of Lawwell and Celtic. Ajer and Edouard should have been signed up on big contracts last year and tied down for a few more years that would at the very least give Celtic some leverage when it came to selling them but time and time again Lawwell refused to pay them even close to what they could demand south of the border.

[JimStynes]

I don't want Celtic to be paying huge wages. They simply can't afford it and they shouldn't need to as they're financially stronger than all the clubs in Scotland. It's a dangerous game and one that put rangers out of business. Like in the EPL, if some of these billionaires get fed up with their toy football clubs then it'll leave the club fucked and with massive outgoings. Celtic needs out of that league ASAP.

[Angelo]

I don't want Celtic to be paying huge wages. They simply can't afford it and they shouldn't need to as they're financially stronger than all the clubs in Scotland. It's a dangerous game and one that put rangers out of business. Like in the EPL, if some of these billionaires get fed up with their toy football clubs then it'll leave the club fucked and with massive outgoings. Celtic needs out of that league ASAP.

Why can't we afford it?

We are going to lose Edouard, Ajer and Christe for an absolute fraction of their market value now because we had that biscuit tin mentality. We have a billionaire owner who hasn't put his hand in his pocket for close enough to 20 years. 10IAR has been scuppered with this mentality. We made great progress when we showed a bit of ambition by appointing Rodgers and scuppered all that with the biscuit tin mentality, lost Rodgers, lost CL football, lost 10IAR, big drop in revenues etc. We have no debt, 3 seasons of turning over profits on transfer dealings, 20m+ reserves sitting in the bank.

And you don't want us to pay our best players what they're worth? Do you want Celtic to continue in the same vein or do you want them to invest in their management, playing team and future and strive to grow on the European scene and improve domestically?

[JimStynes]

How much do you think Celtic should be paying players? Can we afford to be paying 7/8 players 100k+
That 20million in the bank won't be long disappearing.

[tonto1888]

You're not understanding me. Celtic are much bigger than all those clubs with the exception of 2 or 3 in the EPL but they're nowhere near as attractive to play for. The best players want to play in the best leagues and against the best players. Celtic aren't in that bracket anymore and haven't been for a long time. The likes of Di Canio etc would all say Celtic were a bigger club but they still went to play for mid table EPL teams. Do you think it offered the same money the top players in the world would play for Celtic or Everton? I'd say the majority of them would pick Everton. If Celtic start competing in champions leagues and regularly start qualifying for the knockout stages then that's a different conversation. But that isn't the case. They can't even win  europa league game ffs.

For money. Nothing else. Money.

Di Canio, Van Hooijdonk etc were all very clear that they were leaving Celtic because of the biscuit tin mentality. Remember Van Hooijdonk's famous homeless comment about his Celtic contract?

Yes. Showed him up for exactly what he was