The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Angelo]

Ffs
Ronny Delia almost looks like a good manager the longer this fiasco goes on for.

Deila is a far superior manager to Lennon.

Even he could see what sort of an amateur setup he was taking over from when he got the Celtic job.

[JimStynes]

Ffs
Ronny Delia almost looks like a good manager the longer this fiasco goes on for.

Deila is a far superior manager to Lennon.

Even he could see what sort of an amateur setup he was taking over from when he got the Celtic job.

He at least tried to play good football. Lennon had lost the dressing room before the season even started.

[Angelo]

Ffs
Ronny Delia almost looks like a good manager the longer this fiasco goes on for.

Deila is a far superior manager to Lennon.

Even he could see what sort of an amateur setup he was taking over from when he got the Celtic job.

He at least tried to play good football. Lennon had lost the dressing room before the season even started.

Lennon is a Lawwell puppet and Lawwell has been cancer and a parasite for Celtic football club for far too long. It's impossible to see Lennon being here past this season but he has tarnished any sort of goodwill he had with fans over the sheer arrogance and contempt he has shown this season.

I'm not too enamoured about the appointment of some Scottish rugby guy but we'll see. I'd like to see us appoint a director of football, someone on the continent with a track record of unearthing talented young players. The issue with Lawwell was he had total control over Celtic, he handled transfer dealings personally, he identified transfer targets himself. It was one of the reasons there was such a big power battle between him and Rodgers, Lawwell exerted far, far too much control for Rodgers liking and Lawwell felt threatened by Rodgers clout. It was a relationship that was never going to last.

I'd like to see Desmond selling out his stake in the club, bar putting a few quid in when O'Neill took over and contributing to Rodgers wages, he hasn't done a tap for Celtic since buying his shareholding. You can question how well or badly the huns are run across the city but they have sought investment, they have pumped money into the club, they have shown ambition. Celtic did the opposite.

We all know the financial issues Rangers have but a couple of sales and CL football next year has all those problems vanished now. Celtic have been utterly shambolically run. Results like today just don't matter anymore.

Lennon is finished in management after this and he's desperately hanging on for a payout which tells you a lot about him as a man.

[JimStynes]

Ffs
Ronny Delia almost looks like a good manager the longer this fiasco goes on for.

Deila is a far superior manager to Lennon.

Even he could see what sort of an amateur setup he was taking over from when he got the Celtic job.

He at least tried to play good football. Lennon had lost the dressing room before the season even started.

Lennon is a Lawwell puppet and Lawwell has been cancer and a parasite for Celtic football club for far too long. It's impossible to see Lennon being here past this season but he has tarnished any sort of goodwill he had with fans over the sheer arrogance and contempt he has shown this season.

I'm not too enamoured about the appointment of some Scottish rugby guy but we'll see. I'd like to see us appoint a director of football, someone on the continent with a track record of unearthing talented young players. The issue with Lawwell was he had total control over Celtic, he handled transfer dealings personally, he identified transfer targets himself. It was one of the reasons there was such a big power battle between him and Rodgers, Lawwell exerted far, far too much control for Rodgers liking and Lawwell felt threatened by Rodgers clout. It was a relationship that was never going to last.

I'd like to see Desmond selling out his stake in the club, bar putting a few quid in when O'Neill took over and contributing to Rodgers wages, he hasn't done a tap for Celtic since buying his shareholding. You can question how well or badly the huns are run across the city but they have sought investment, they have pumped money into the club, they have shown ambition. Celtic did the opposite.

We all know the financial issues Rangers have but a couple of sales and CL football next year has all those problems vanished now. Celtic have been utterly shambolically run. Results like today just don't matter anymore.

Lennon is finished in management after this and he's desperately hanging on for a payout which tells you a lot about him as a man.

The only point I disagree with is the Dermot Desmond one. As I said yesterday, it's a be careful what you wish for type thing. You could get someone who could come in and bleed the club dry. DD doesn't seem to do that but he doesn't seem to provide a whole lot of money either. I'll wait and see what impact his son has.

[Angelo]

Ffs
Ronny Delia almost looks like a good manager the longer this fiasco goes on for.

Deila is a far superior manager to Lennon.

Even he could see what sort of an amateur setup he was taking over from when he got the Celtic job.

He at least tried to play good football. Lennon had lost the dressing room before the season even started.

Lennon is a Lawwell puppet and Lawwell has been cancer and a parasite for Celtic football club for far too long. It's impossible to see Lennon being here past this season but he has tarnished any sort of goodwill he had with fans over the sheer arrogance and contempt he has shown this season.

I'm not too enamoured about the appointment of some Scottish rugby guy but we'll see. I'd like to see us appoint a director of football, someone on the continent with a track record of unearthing talented young players. The issue with Lawwell was he had total control over Celtic, he handled transfer dealings personally, he identified transfer targets himself. It was one of the reasons there was such a big power battle between him and Rodgers, Lawwell exerted far, far too much control for Rodgers liking and Lawwell felt threatened by Rodgers clout. It was a relationship that was never going to last.

I'd like to see Desmond selling out his stake in the club, bar putting a few quid in when O'Neill took over and contributing to Rodgers wages, he hasn't done a tap for Celtic since buying his shareholding. You can question how well or badly the huns are run across the city but they have sought investment, they have pumped money into the club, they have shown ambition. Celtic did the opposite.

We all know the financial issues Rangers have but a couple of sales and CL football next year has all those problems vanished now. Celtic have been utterly shambolically run. Results like today just don't matter anymore.

Lennon is finished in management after this and he's desperately hanging on for a payout which tells you a lot about him as a man.

The only point I disagree with is the Dermot Desmond one. As I said yesterday, it's a be careful what you wish for type thing. You could get someone who could come in and bleed the club dry. DD doesn't seem to do that but he doesn't seem to provide a whole lot of money either. I'll wait and see what impact his son has.

But the bigger problem is Desmond is a billionaire who doesn't put his hand in his pocket.

You look at all the top clubs around Europe in private ownership. 90% of their owners invest heavily in the club - they are not there to make money from it. They are there to have their name associated with success. Very few billionaires invest money in football to make money, they put money in it for the success.

Desmond seems to be the type of guy who sees football as purely an investment and that is the exact type of person you'd worry about taking over your club and he has held Celtic back massively.

Celtic have always had a biscuit tin mentality.

[JimStynes]

The other issue is, who the hell would want to buy the club and invest money into it. Wonder would Rod have enough dough lying about.

[Orior]

As an Armagh man I sincerely apologise for my part in today's debacle. I hereby resign from my position of influence.

And rightly so, lol.

[tyroneStatto]

Rumours on twitter that he's gone.

[From the Bunker]

Lennon interview after the game looks and sounds like an interview after a pre-season friendly loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thS_PDk9jkA

[Main Street]

This leadership shambles at Celtic is beyond GUBU.

[Angelo]

The other issue is, who the hell would want to buy the club and invest money into it. Wonder would Rod have enough dough lying about.

Billionaires.

As I said, most private owners of football clubs don't invest in it for the sake of making money. You look at Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Juve, Inter, Milan, Roma, Liverpool etc - look at the money those owners have put into those clubs. Liverpool were on the verge of bankruptcy when the Americans came in and invested in the club and cleared a load of debt, look at all the money Abramovich and the Qataris and that have put into their clubs.

If you look across the city at Rangers, loads of share issues have been actioned to put money into the club, to get investment, to build and improve the team.

Football has rarely been a money making venture for billionaires. How many billionaires made their fortune from a football club? Virtually none, it's generally a hobby, an ego thing where they invest their money and what they get out of it are cups, leagues, promotions, European qualifications etc.

But this is the problem with Desmond, he views it as an investment. He bought his shareholding in Celtic 20 odd years ago, probably with the view that Celtic would have joined the EPL by now and would be worth 20 times what he spent. He has no interest in putting his money into the club. There is absolutely no ambition at Celtic, there is no reason whatsoever Celtic could not be at the same level as Ajax if they had an ambitious board who are willing to put their money in the club to get the best possible management and players they can.

Instead we have a majority shareholder who is unwilling to invest and a board who prioritise profits and their bonuses.

[From the Bunker]

For the past 9 years Celtic have been coasting. There was no need for investment as there was no imminent threat. Except there was a threat to them last year and Covid stepped in and helped us out. So here we are thinking we could cheap skate to the biggest title in 140 odd years of the club. 

[JimStynes]

For the past 9 years Celtic have been coasting. There was no need for investment as there was no imminent threat. Except there was a threat to them last year and Covid stepped in and helped us out. So here we are thinking we could cheap skate to the biggest title in 140 odd years of the club.

There was definitely a need for investment. An investment in a good manager for a start. An investment in a good youth structure and try and produce top class players on a consistent basis. And investment in players to try and make more inroads into European football, where the real money is.

[Main Street]

European football offers rewards but the real awards are with tranfer income, that's what clubs like Porto and Ajax have managed.

[JimStynes]

Yeah you're right. De Jong and De Ligt were sold from Ajax for about £150m. And a few other players sold the next year for near £100m. But at the same time they wouldn't have got anywhere near that money had they not had a great run in Europe. 200-300million quid in transfers in the space of 2 years. Unreal. Their academy must be something else.