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Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: ned on December 21, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Angelo on December 20, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.
Celtic in 2006/7  had a mostly exceptional season, had the spl title won with games to spare, nobody cared about performance in the cup final as there was plenty of credit in the bank. This time around Celtic are already overdrawn and far from convincing.

Angelo

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: ned on December 21, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Angelo on December 20, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.

Idiotic statement. Performances matter otherwise you are relying on luck. Good managers don't rely on luck. Celtic are a shambles under Neil Lennon, another get of jail card in a shambolic season.

Will people remember how shit we played in the 2021 season? Yes because we fucked away 10IAR, got humbled by a mediocre Hungarian outfit in the CL, finished bottom of our EL group with the worst defensive record in the competition and knocked out by Ross County at home in the League Cup.
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tonto1888

Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: ned on December 21, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Angelo on December 20, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.

Idiotic statement. Performances matter otherwise you are relying on luck. Good managers don't rely on luck. Celtic are a shambles under Neil Lennon, another get of jail card in a shambolic season.

Will people remember how shit we played in the 2021 season? Yes because we fucked away 10IAR, got humbled by a mediocre Hungarian outfit in the CL, finished bottom of our EL group with the worst defensive record in the competition and knocked out by Ross County at home in the League Cup.

Nah. Not an idiotic statement at all. People will only remember that we won and that it clinched us a historic quadruple treble. Your second paragraph I can't argue with.

straightred

I might well be in a minority but i didnt really care about yesterday. Its a great achievement, its historic and all that but at the end of the day the league is the most important thing and while Lennon is still in charge we haven't a prayer. That's how I feel today.

Angelo

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 07:00:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 21, 2020, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 21, 2020, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: ned on December 21, 2020, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: Angelo on December 20, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
The Lennon Loyal embarrassing themselves here. They would happily see the club burned to the ground as long as their boy gets his bit.

Needing penalties against a team a division below is embarrassing. He fucked it up again today by bringing Brown, he was completely overran and is finished at any decent level.

Celtic are a shambles.

We WON the SC yesterday to complete the quadruple treble. Celebrating that does not mean you automatically back NL to remain as manager.
I'd rather we won the cup AND had a different manager but I still would prefer to win the cup even if it means Lennon being the one to achieve it.

We did, via a penalty shootout against a team who are in the Scottish Championship, conceding 3 goals, twice sacrificing leads, generally looking shambolic and one in which we were extremely lucky to win.

And that's further reason why Lennon has to go. He restored his misfiring captain into the team and we were overran in midfield. We put in two solid performances and he reverted to sentiment and we were utterly shambolic again.

That level of performance is going to lead to more dropped points.

He needs to go and needs to go ASAP.

We did. That's all you needed to say. The opposition doesn't matter. The score line doesn't matter and how we won it doesn't matter. And brown played well. Your blind to that fact. And Lennon should still go

The problem was people oh ignoring the desperate Celtic performances which have been happening for far too long under Celtic. The performances do matter as you cant keep getting away with playing badly and that's what happened with Celtic.

The performance in a final doesn't matter. Only the result. Does anyone remember how shit we played in the 2007 final? No. Only that we won.
Celtic haven't been getting away with being crap this year. That's why we are so far behind.

Idiotic statement. Performances matter otherwise you are relying on luck. Good managers don't rely on luck. Celtic are a shambles under Neil Lennon, another get of jail card in a shambolic season.

Will people remember how shit we played in the 2021 season? Yes because we fucked away 10IAR, got humbled by a mediocre Hungarian outfit in the CL, finished bottom of our EL group with the worst defensive record in the competition and knocked out by Ross County at home in the League Cup.

Nah. Not an idiotic statement at all. People will only remember that we won and that it clinched us a historic quadruple treble. Your second paragraph I can't argue with.


History is at stake this season and the performance is further proof if proof was needed that the manager is completely and utterly out of his depth. Performances are indicative of what is to come. We have subpar for the most part under Lennon and it has never been rectified, now we are paying the price. He should have gone a long time ago!
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Applesisapples

Quote from: illdecide on December 21, 2020, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 21, 2020, 08:53:36 AM
Defending yesterday was shocking, Conor Hazzard was poor throughout, but I doubt the other 2 would have been any better. I guess Gordon kicking himself he left. I have to say NL's indecision and lack of decisive action led to the scoreline. Sutton thought Brown was their best player. I didn't see it that way.

Apples just out of curiosity who did you think played well, not being a smart arse but going to games you hear people say x played well and y was good and you think to yourself "what match was he watching". TBH I thought Brown was decent and one of Celtic's better players but wasn't a stand out either, If I was being honest there was one or two Hearts players who were MOM for me. I couldn't honestly single out any Celtic player and say he was top notch yesterday.
To be fair I thought Brown started well but faded in the second half, Ajer I thought was fairly decent as was Turnbull, Christie had a good hour also. I felt as a team Celtic were hanging on in the second half. I am not well versed in tactics but it appears to me that McGregor and Brown don't give enough cover to the centre backs. Reaction to the second ball from set pieces is also an issue. IMO

Applesisapples

I think it was Sutton who said, that in recent months the issue is that Celtic are not putting away the chances and as the match progresses the pressure gets too much.

Angelo

Quote from: Applesisapples on December 22, 2020, 10:30:13 AM
I think it was Sutton who said, that in recent months the issue is that Celtic are not putting away the chances and as the match progresses the pressure gets too much.

The Celtic tempo is too lax.

We also tire and fatigue a lot in games. Our shape is poor and we are bombscare on set plays.

These are all training ground issues.
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Itchy

Quote from: Applesisapples on December 22, 2020, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 21, 2020, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 21, 2020, 08:53:36 AM
Defending yesterday was shocking, Conor Hazzard was poor throughout, but I doubt the other 2 would have been any better. I guess Gordon kicking himself he left. I have to say NL's indecision and lack of decisive action led to the scoreline. Sutton thought Brown was their best player. I didn't see it that way.

Apples just out of curiosity who did you think played well, not being a smart arse but going to games you hear people say x played well and y was good and you think to yourself "what match was he watching". TBH I thought Brown was decent and one of Celtic's better players but wasn't a stand out either, If I was being honest there was one or two Hearts players who were MOM for me. I couldn't honestly single out any Celtic player and say he was top notch yesterday.
To be fair I thought Brown started well but faded in the second half, Ajer I thought was fairly decent as was Turnbull, Christie had a good hour also. I felt as a team Celtic were hanging on in the second half. I am not well versed in tactics but it appears to me that McGregor and Brown don't give enough cover to the centre backs. Reaction to the second ball from set pieces is also an issue. IMO

Celtics biggest problem is exactly that, their ctr midfield is shite. No creativity, work rate and frequently out of position which leaves their ctr backs in particular very vulnerable. Celtic need to purchase some quality in that area. I dont rate McGregor at all and Christie is average.

rodney trotter

Stuart Armstrong has developed into a very good midfielder at Southampton.  Celtic lack that sort of midfielder

lurganblue

Quote from: Itchy on December 22, 2020, 11:20:35 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 22, 2020, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 21, 2020, 09:27:21 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 21, 2020, 08:53:36 AM
Defending yesterday was shocking, Conor Hazzard was poor throughout, but I doubt the other 2 would have been any better. I guess Gordon kicking himself he left. I have to say NL's indecision and lack of decisive action led to the scoreline. Sutton thought Brown was their best player. I didn't see it that way.

Apples just out of curiosity who did you think played well, not being a smart arse but going to games you hear people say x played well and y was good and you think to yourself "what match was he watching". TBH I thought Brown was decent and one of Celtic's better players but wasn't a stand out either, If I was being honest there was one or two Hearts players who were MOM for me. I couldn't honestly single out any Celtic player and say he was top notch yesterday.
To be fair I thought Brown started well but faded in the second half, Ajer I thought was fairly decent as was Turnbull, Christie had a good hour also. I felt as a team Celtic were hanging on in the second half. I am not well versed in tactics but it appears to me that McGregor and Brown don't give enough cover to the centre backs. Reaction to the second ball from set pieces is also an issue. IMO

Celtics biggest problem is exactly that, their ctr midfield is shite. No creativity, work rate and frequently out of position which leaves their ctr backs in particular very vulnerable. Celtic need to purchase some quality in that area. I dont rate McGregor at all and Christie is average.

McGinn is still a shameless balls up by the board

Angelo

Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 01:10:10 PM
Stuart Armstrong has developed into a very good midfielder at Southampton.  Celtic lack that sort of midfielder

I actually think we have plenty of that sort of midfielder - Christie, Rogic, Ntcham and Turnbull all play a similar role to Armstrong.

The problem is we lack that defensive presence in our midfield. Brown's legs have gone, McGregor has been hot and cold. Soro has done well since coming in but we could with another energetic, defensive minded option in the midfield.

For me Soro should be an automatic starter if he maintains his form.
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Itchy

Quote from: Angelo on December 22, 2020, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 01:10:10 PM
Stuart Armstrong has developed into a very good midfielder at Southampton.  Celtic lack that sort of midfielder

I actually think we have plenty of that sort of midfielder - Christie, Rogic, Ntcham and Turnbull all play a similar role to Armstrong.

The problem is we lack that defensive presence in our midfield. Brown's legs have gone, McGregor has been hot and cold. Soro has done well since coming in but we could with another energetic, defensive minded option in the midfield.

For me Soro should be an automatic starter if he maintains his form.

Not one of those players is near Armstrong, I am sorry to say. Rogic at his prime perhaps.

Angelo

Quote from: Itchy on December 22, 2020, 01:47:15 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 22, 2020, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 01:10:10 PM
Stuart Armstrong has developed into a very good midfielder at Southampton.  Celtic lack that sort of midfielder

I actually think we have plenty of that sort of midfielder - Christie, Rogic, Ntcham and Turnbull all play a similar role to Armstrong.

The problem is we lack that defensive presence in our midfield. Brown's legs have gone, McGregor has been hot and cold. Soro has done well since coming in but we could with another energetic, defensive minded option in the midfield.

For me Soro should be an automatic starter if he maintains his form.

Not one of those players is near Armstrong, I am sorry to say. Rogic at his prime perhaps.

I don't know really. Armstrong was never a guaranteed starter under Rodgers or Deila. He was in and out of the team. He's a decent player but I'd probably have Christie and Rogic over him. Granted he is probably in better form than both at present.

Christie and McGregor are ahead of him in the national team pecking order in any case.
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illdecide

Guys how can you say the work rate is not there? The damage is coming from set pieces mostly and we can't cope with the high balls into the defence, that's what is causing us grief. Teams aren't playing thru us and turning us inside out...it's free kicks into the box and corners which we cant defend...
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