South Belfast North of Ireland Supporters Club

[Myles Na G.]

The Tricolour is the National Flag of 45% of the people of the Six Counties.

Just because 45% of the north's population is catholic, it doesn't mean that they all recognise the tricolour as their national flag. For me, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 counties. It's the free state's flag. The national flag of a 32 county independent Ireland has yet to be designed. I look forward to that day, but in the meantime don't expect me to get all emotional over the free state's emblem. Same applies to the 'national' anthem.

[pintsofguinness]

The Tricolour is the National Flag of 45% of the people of the Six Counties.

Just because 45% of the north's population is catholic, it doesn't mean that they all recognise the tricolour as their national flag. For me, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 counties. It's the free state's flag. The national flag of a 32 county independent Ireland has yet to be designed. I look forward to that day, but in the meantime don't expect me to get all emotional over the free state's emblem. Same applies to the 'national' anthem.

He was talking about nationalists

[updown9194]

The Tricolour is the National Flag of 45% of the people of the Six Counties.

Just because 45% of the north's population is catholic, it doesn't mean that they all recognise the tricolour as their national flag. For me, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 counties. It's the free state's flag. The national flag of a 32 county independent Ireland has yet to be designed. I look forward to that day, but in the meantime don't expect me to get all emotional over the free state's emblem. Same applies to the 'national' anthem.

We don't expect you to. Again, with reference to the 'football for all' policy on diversity, when the anthem or flag of Ireland (a flag which predates the 'free state' by a considerable space of time) are not respected at Windsor Park then the anthem and flag of what has been recognised as a discriminatory Stormont Government should not be respected either. The Union Jack too, as a symbol of unionism, shouldn't be allowed to be brought into the ground or flown on a mast.

Your opinion on whether or not the tricolour is the flag of a 26 county state may have its own validity, but in the interests of fairness I would suggest that another man's opinion that the Union Jack and the Ulster Banner are similarly inappropriate should be respected as well.

[Myles Na G.]

The Tricolour is the National Flag of 45% of the people of the Six Counties.

Just because 45% of the north's population is catholic, it doesn't mean that they all recognise the tricolour as their national flag. For me, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 counties. It's the free state's flag. The national flag of a 32 county independent Ireland has yet to be designed. I look forward to that day, but in the meantime don't expect me to get all emotional over the free state's emblem. Same applies to the 'national' anthem.

He was talking about nationalists

He was talking about people who live in the 6 counties, so that's you out.

[The Watcher Pat]

Myles are you Jeffrey Donaldson in disguise?

Fcuk me your the most loyalist nationalist i've ever come across or else your one of the best WUM'S on the board...


Of course you might not know what your at ?

[Myles Na G.]

We don't expect you to. Again, with reference to the 'football for all' policy on diversity, when the anthem or flag of Ireland (a flag which predates the 'free state' by a considerable space of time) are not respected at Windsor Park then the anthem and flag of what has been recognised as a discriminatory Stormont Government should not be respected either. The Union Jack too, as a symbol of unionism, shouldn't be allowed to be brought into the ground or flown on a mast.

Your opinion on whether or not the tricolour is the flag of a 26 county state may have its own validity, but in the interests of fairness I would suggest that another man's opinion that the Union Jack and the Ulster Banner are similarly inappropriate should be respected as well.

I wasn't making any comment at all on the Ulster banner, union flag or the IFA's various policies. I'm simply stating that, for this particular nationalist, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 county state, the state which turned its back on the north many years ago. I have no love for it or for the so called national anthem. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the real republic, i.e the 32 county version, the first item on the agenda should be the need for a new flag and anthem. Until then, I'll content myself with wearing my Ireland rugby shirt and singing Ireland's Call. Sadly, they're the closest we have to agreed, acceptable symbols on this island.

[ardmhachaabu]

I wasn't making any comment at all on the Ulster banner, union flag or the IFA's various policies. I'm simply stating that, for this particular nationalist, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 county state, the state which turned its back on the north many years ago. I have no love for it or for the so called national anthem. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the real republic, i.e the 32 county version, the first item on the agenda should be the need for a new flag and anthem. Until then, I'll content myself with wearing my Ireland rugby shirt and singing Ireland's Call. Sadly, they're the closest we have to agreed, acceptable symbols on this island.

[pintsofguinness]

Myles are you Jeffrey Donaldson in disguise?

Fcuk me your the most loyalist nationalist i've ever come across or else your one of the best WUM'S on the board...


Of course you might not know what your at ?

Well he's neither really, he's not a nationalist and he's not a very good WUM as everyone sees through him. 

[pintsofguinness]

The Tricolour is the National Flag of 45% of the people of the Six Counties.

Just because 45% of the north's population is catholic, it doesn't mean that they all recognise the tricolour as their national flag. For me, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 counties. It's the free state's flag. The national flag of a 32 county independent Ireland has yet to be designed. I look forward to that day, but in the meantime don't expect me to get all emotional over the free state's emblem. Same applies to the 'national' anthem.

He was talking about nationalists

He was talking about people who live in the 6 counties, so that's you out.

Where did I say I was included?

Btw, the fact you keep saying your a nationalist in every second post is doing nothing for your windup attempts, it's overkill. 

[The Watcher Pat]

Myles are you Jeffrey Donaldson in disguise?

Fcuk me your the most loyalist nationalist i've ever come across or else your one of the best WUM'S on the board...


Of course you might not know what your at ?

Well he's neither really, he's not a nationalist and he's not a very good WUM as everyone sees through him. 

I'm not even sure what to call him now....ure right POG he want's to be A WUM but most people have caught on to him...Aka (Jeffrey Donaldson/Daniel O'Donnell)

[updown9194]

We don't expect you to. Again, with reference to the 'football for all' policy on diversity, when the anthem or flag of Ireland (a flag which predates the 'free state' by a considerable space of time) are not respected at Windsor Park then the anthem and flag of what has been recognised as a discriminatory Stormont Government should not be respected either. The Union Jack too, as a symbol of unionism, shouldn't be allowed to be brought into the ground or flown on a mast.

Your opinion on whether or not the tricolour is the flag of a 26 county state may have its own validity, but in the interests of fairness I would suggest that another man's opinion that the Union Jack and the Ulster Banner are similarly inappropriate should be respected as well.

I wasn't making any comment at all on the Ulster banner, union flag or the IFA's various policies. I'm simply stating that, for this particular nationalist, the tricolour is the flag of the 26 county state, the state which turned its back on the north many years ago. I have no love for it or for the so called national anthem. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the real republic, i.e the 32 county version, the first item on the agenda should be the need for a new flag and anthem. Until then, I'll content myself with wearing my Ireland rugby shirt and singing Ireland's Call. Sadly, they're the closest we have to agreed, acceptable symbols on this island.

Yes, the tricolour an offensive flag, what with its conciliatory attitude towards Republicanism and Orangism. What a horrible message to send to the children. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the 'real republic' I somehow doubt you'll be prominent at the negotiating table.

[Myles Na G.]

Yes, the tricolour an offensive flag, what with its conciliatory attitude towards Republicanism and Orangism. What a horrible message to send to the children. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the 'real republic' I somehow doubt you'll be prominent at the negotiating table.  

I never described the tricolour as offensive - those are your words, not mine. I described it as the flag of the 26 county state, which it is. I stated that I consider it an inappropriate choice as the flag of the real Irish republic if and when that state emerges. If you fancy responding to the opinions I express, rather than ones you make up and then attribute to me, work away.

[The Watcher Pat]

Yes, the tricolour an offensive flag, what with its conciliatory attitude towards Republicanism and Orangism. What a horrible message to send to the children. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the 'real republic' I somehow doubt you'll be prominent at the negotiating table.  

I never described the tricolour as offensive - those are your words, not mine. I described it as the flag of the 26 county state, which it is. I stated that I consider it an inappropriate choice as the flag of the real Irish republic if and when that state emerges. If you fancy responding to the opinions I express, rather than ones you make up and then attribute to me, work away.

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[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Yes, the tricolour an offensive flag, what with its conciliatory attitude towards Republicanism and Orangism. What a horrible message to send to the children. If ever we get round to discussing arrangements for the 'real republic' I somehow doubt you'll be prominent at the negotiating table.  

I never described the tricolour as offensive - those are your words, not mine. I described it as the flag of the 26 county state, which it is. I stated that I consider it an inappropriate choice as the flag of the real Irish republic if and when that state emerges. If you fancy responding to the opinions I express, rather than ones you make up and then attribute to me, work away.

As much as I'm going to regret this - Myles what would you see as better then the green white and orange?
You claim to be a nationalist - what are your hopes for the Nationalist people?

[Myles Na G.]

As much as I'm going to regret this - Myles what would you see as better then the green white and orange?
You claim to be a nationalist - what are your hopes for the Nationalist people?  

My hopes for the nationalist people of Ireland are exactly the same as my hopes for the unionists: I hope that we all manage to live in a peaceful, prosperous Ireland. I believe this hope can best be fulfilled in a reunited, 32 county, independent Irish republic. I have no hatred for the British or for the British government. I simply believe that the interests of the Irish people would be better served by a government of its own citizens taking decisions in Dublin, rather than by a government elected largely by the good people of the south east of England. The challenge for nationalists is to convince others on the island who hold a different view, in particular, the 900,000 unionists in the north east corner. No easy task that, but I believe it can be done. My contempt, which I've expressed on here, is reserved for those republicans who hold that the way to convince unionists of the rightness of our cause is to wage war on them. As for the flag of the real Irish republic, I have no idea what that will look like. That will be for the people of the 32 counties - including the northern protestant / British - to decide upon. I would bet my house on the fact that the tricolour won't be the agreed outcome.