AISF Aug 23rd Tyrone v Cork

[ziggysego]

Cork are the new Dublin.

Hope so

[tyroneStatto]

Please someone point out one or two Cork deficiencies before I decide whether or not I want to bother going to this match.  It seems that it will be lost in the middle of the pitch or by our half backs who aren't much good at defending.

Any reason for Tyrone to be positive?  Apart from blind faith in MH of course. 

Good one Rois 

1990 is probably the last time Cork beat a top side in championship football in Croke Park.

It is still the same group of Cork players that have continually choked every year in Croker (anyone recall 2007 AI Final humiliation?).

Like the Dubs, they look good beating poor opposition but when things get tight they fall apart.

[Bensars]

Cork have been put under pressure once this year and that was a against limerick in the munster final. A game that if Limerick had more experienced players would have undoubtedly won. The initial games against Kerry were at a time when the Kingdom was in disarray and the game against Donegal can be discounted altogether.

There is  a lot of talk of corks size around the middle and how they will dominate. This is not totally irrelevant but moreso somewhat redundant in the fact that Tyrone very rarely win the traditional midfield battle. I would expect Tyrone to play a more running and possession orientated game with high energy and tackling anything that moves in droves  and in that battle its not the Size of the dog in the fight but the size of the  fight in the dog, so to speak.

[Fuzzman]

I'm afraid to say I haven't saw much of Cork this year bar their first game with Kerry.

Can anyone give us a run down on their best players this year and what their strengths & weaknesses are?

I know Miskella has done well & as usual Canty & their midfield.

Have they really been tested yet with the level of intensity that Tyrone wil bring.
Kildare surprised Tyrone with their intensity & speed to the ball last Sunday but couldn't keep it up for the 2nd half

I'd expect a lot of short kickouts from Packie & a lot of swarming the COrk midfielders when they catch it clean

[longrunsthefox]

In 1973 Did Cork wear the vanquished Tyrone players' jerseys in the final or is that an old pub one? 

Indeed they did... and Billy Morgan thanked Tyrone for the jerseys during the victory speech. I was at the final and Tyrone minors hammered Kildare. The senior final is in the Guinness Book of Records for the highest combinest score in an All Ireland senior football final...Cork beat Galway and JBM was the maestro. Re-earlier post my memory would be Peter Mulgrew of Stewartstown marked Jimmy Barry in the semi-final and JBM got 3 goals I think. A few months later Murphy scored about five golas off Mulgrew in the Railway Cup. Was a great Cork taem but Dubs beat them the next year and then emerged the great Kerry side...     

[Chef]

I think this could be the game of the year and a lot closer than some people are predicting, both teams performances so far have been steadily increasing in intensity while the standard of football has been high.

I have a sneaky feeling about Cork this year,

[tyssam5]

In 1973 Did Cork wear the vanquished Tyrone players' jerseys in the final or is that an old pub one? 

Indeed they did... and Billy Morgan thanked Tyrone for the jerseys during the victory speech. I was at the final and Tyrone minors hammered Kildare. The senior final is in the Guinness Book of Records for the highest combinest score in an All Ireland senior football final...Cork beat Galway and JBM was the maestro. Re-earlier post my memory would be Peter Mulgrew of Stewartstown marked Jimmy Barry in the semi-final and JBM got 3 goals I think. A few months later Murphy scored about five golas off Mulgrew in the Railway Cup. Was a great Cork taem but Dubs beat them the next year and then emerged the great Kerry side...     

Thought it was McAnespie? Or maybe they tried a few on him.

[saffron sam2]

A man said to me at the weekend a Tyrone win would be good for the traditional ideals of the GAA but a Cork win would be a GPA boost and a sign that player power can achieve great things.
Is this semifinal set to be a battle of ideals? 

Was it Sean Cavanagh that told you that?

[020304 Tir Eoghain]

A man said to me at the weekend a Tyrone win would be good for the traditional ideals of the GAA but a Cork win would be a GPA boost and a sign that player power can achieve great things.
Is this semifinal set to be a battle of ideals? 

Was it Sean Cavanagh that told you that?

Art McRory actually

[mountainboii]

When are the teams bein announced lads?

In about two weeks 

[never kickt a ball]

When are the teams bein announced lads?

Tyrone team  :

1  Pascal McConnell   An Baile Nua
2  P J Quinn   Baile na Móna
3  Justin McMahon   An Omaigh
4  Ryan McMenamin   An Droim Mhór
5  Davy Harte   Aireagal Chiaráin
6  Conor Gormley   An Charraig Mhór
7  Philip Jordan   An Mhaigh
8  Kevin Hughes   Cill Íseal
9  Sean Cavanagh   An Mhaigh
10  Brian Dooher (C)   Clann na nGael
11  Tommy McGuigan   Ard Bó
12  Joe McMahon   An Omaigh
13  Martin Penrose   Achadh Uí Arain
14  Stephen O'Neill   Clann na nGael
15  Owen Mulligan   An Chorra Chríochach

[sandwiches_in_the_boot]

When are the teams bein announced lads?

Tyrone team  :

1  Pascal McConnell   An Baile Nua
2  P J Quinn   Baile na Móna
3  Justin McMahon   An Omaigh
4  Ryan McMenamin   An Droim Mhór
5  Davy Harte   Aireagal Chiaráin
6  Conor Gormley   An Charraig Mhór
7  Philip Jordan   An Mhaigh
8  Kevin Hughes   Cill Íseal
9  Sean Cavanagh   An Mhaigh
10  Brian Dooher (C)   Clann na nGael
11  Tommy McGuigan   Ard Bó
12  Joe McMahon   An Omaigh
13  Martin Penrose   Achadh Uí Arain
14  Stephen O'Neill   Clann na nGael
15  Owen Mulligan   An Chorra Chríochach

If Mc Ginley plays (lets hope), could Sean Cavanagh drop into CHF in place of Tommy Mc Guigan (who has been well below par) for an intriguing battle with Canty? He's better with more space to run at goal. I'd have a notion Canty could roast him though.

Unlikely,  more likely to see Sean return up front with SON dropping into the corner, mugsy in the other, and I'd hate to see Marty Penrose dropped before TMcG. Don't think MH will go with Brian Mc Guigan for the full 70, you know rightly he'll go again with Tommy... 

[Tyrones own]

If Mc Ginley plays (lets hope), could Sean Cavanagh drop into CHF in place of Tommy Mc Guigan (who has been well below par) for an intriguing battle with Canty? He's better with more space to run at goal. I'd have a notion Canty could roast him though.

Unlikely,  more likely to see Sean return up front with SON dropping into the corner, mugsy in the other, and I'd hate to see Marty Penrose dropped before TMcG. Don't think MH will go with Brian Mc Guigan for the full 70, you know rightly he'll go again with Tommy...  Undecided

Although I don't think it's Sean best position I think we'll see him start at 14 for the reason being, Cork's backs
with lynch and co could very well snuff out the threat of O'Neill and Mulligan playing the traditional 2 man FF line,
Big Sean could offer more with runners on either shoulder.

Fatigue is going to play a huge part in this game in what will be high intensity with non stop running from the off so it's not a bad thing to have the likes
of Penrose and McCullagh to come in in the second half with their pace , I think bench management and the timing of fresh legs in key areas could
well be the winning of this game especially in the last 15 minutes.
Is Enda showing signs of being ready....?

[ONeill]

Just back from a stint in Cork. They're mightily confident down there about this one with many looking forward to finally nabbing Kerry's scalp in September.

I also think it'll be Hub/Enda at centrefield and Sean, O'Neill and Mugsy a three-pronged attack. Tommy v Penrose for the bench. Looking forward to this more than the Kildare game.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Just back from a stint in Cork. They're mightily confident down there about this one with many looking forward to finally nabbing Kerry's scalp in September.

Are they ever anything else?