AISF Aug 23rd Tyrone v Cork

Started by cadhlancian, August 02, 2009, 07:11:38 PM

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GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: JMohan on August 23, 2009, 05:40:51 PM
I can't see how you can say Bannon rode Tyrone Indiana?

He was bad - but he did send of a man for Cork early on and was just basically sh!te all round

I wouldn't say biased though

Bar the ridiculous second yellow for the sending off I thought Tyrone were definitely getting the shitty end of the stick as far as the refereeing decisions were concerned.

stiffler

Quote from: bcarrier on August 23, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
Tyrone didnt get there usual quota of carry the ball at pace and fall over frees but on balance dont think ref favoured them above Cork.

First yellow fair enough - second one wrong, Extra man for 45minutes balanced out any other calls. Canty sailed closer to wind but I think Miskella swung and missed.

The key difference wasnt ref but absence of cavanagh IMO.


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Minder

Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 23, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
Tyrone didnt get there usual quota of carry the ball at pace and fall over frees but on balance dont think ref favoured them above Cork.

First yellow fair enough - second one wrong, Extra man for 45minutes balanced out any other calls. Canty sailed closer to wind but I think Miskella swung and missed.

The key difference wasnt ref but absence of cavanagh IMO.

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Tyrone were poor all over the pitch, especially in the HB line, that can't be attributed to Cavanaghs absence.
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Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 23, 2009, 05:28:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 05:25:51 PM
I'm amazed at how wound up the neutrals are getting on this thread.

The only common ground is that Bannon is a complete muppet. Ger Canning might also get the nod in that regard.
In fairness, I hate Cork with a passion, so I'm not trying to be neutral. Kerry or Meath will have my full support for the final. Even Mayo would. :P

would agree with ya there oms will definately be up for kerry or meath against cork, nothing to do with the hurling strikes or anything just don't like them and find it hard to cheer for them could be something to do with billy morgan and him been a sore looser and everthing
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NaomhBridAbú

Tyrone were not at their best today - Cork overpowered them, were faster to the ball;, and retained possession better.

The loss of Cavanagh was a bit of a blow but he hasnt been all that great this year, and when playing, he can only be in the one place at any given time - other players played well below par - the 2 mcmahons will have better games - Dooher's tank is slowly but surely giving way.

Cork were strong - the ref was awful. got the sending off wrong, but missed loads of other opportunities to penalise the dirty play from Cork in the 2nd half - cant believe that hitting the head resulted in a yello - he may as well not have bothered consulting the two shopkeepers.

Well done Cork - kick Kerry's hole, if Meath dont do it first.

We'll be back
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muppet

Quote from: Minder on August 23, 2009, 05:46:57 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 23, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
Tyrone didnt get there usual quota of carry the ball at pace and fall over frees but on balance dont think ref favoured them above Cork.

First yellow fair enough - second one wrong, Extra man for 45minutes balanced out any other calls. Canty sailed closer to wind but I think Miskella swung and missed.

The key difference wasnt ref but absence of cavanagh IMO.

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Tyrone were poor all over the pitch, especially in the HB line, that can't be attributed to Cavanaghs absence.

Tyrone were beaten everywhere except maybe their FF line. Stephen O'Neill is still class and Penrose worked hard (could have had a goal) while Mulligan made the games key contribution other than the goal.

Cork were well worth the win and I can't for the life of me see how people think Tyrone were robbed.
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laceer

Better team won. Tyrone will be back.
Good luck to the langers in the final

Mike Sheehy

QuoteWhats bitter about that? Spillane was absolutely tasteless after the game. Kerry people seem to be more concerned about the Team of the Decade then winning an all-ireland. It was absolutely pathetic punditry.

What goes around comes around.


Hardy

Neither of O'Connors yellow cards was justified in my opinion. But Cork management know their Bannon well and you could see what they knew they would get away with in the second half. Top notch tactics, in my opinion.

Not a dive by Mulligan either. He was airborne when O'Connor made (accidental) contact - enough to spin him around. Look for the real dives if looking to carp about it.

Maguire01

If that's the end of the Tyrone team, let's hope it's also the end of John Bannon's refereeing days. I doubt he influenced the result, but he definitely influenced the game.

Regardless of the ref however, Tyrone were awful today and made far too many mistakes of their own. The ball was given away stupidly numerous times running out of defence. The fact that Cork were able to shoot so many wides and still win by a decent margain says it all.

Maguire01

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 23, 2009, 05:55:29 PM
QuoteWhats bitter about that? Spillane was absolutely tasteless after the game. Kerry people seem to be more concerned about the Team of the Decade then winning an all-ireland. It was absolutely pathetic punditry.

What goes around comes around.
It's always good to have your in-depth analysis of these matches Mike. Real insight.  ::)

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: INDIANA on August 23, 2009, 05:38:43 PM

Spillane was absolutely tasteless after the game.

Lack of class on his behalf but not the first team sadly. Being owned by Tyrone the last few years has clearly got to him but he could learn a lot from the likes of his fellow countyman Ger O' Keefe about humility and class.

Donnellys Hollow

Cavanagh was a loss but he was anonymous against ourselves in the quarter final so it is debatable as to whether his absence was the difference. Cork were the fresher and hungrier team and they thoroughly deserved their win. The warning signs were there for Tyrone the last day but Cork, unlike Kildare, had the nous and the composure to see them off.

Bannon had his usual abysmal game but I don't think he was significantly biased towards either side. Tyrone might feel aggrieved with some of his second half decisions but Cork were definitely on the end of some shocking calls in the opening half. Is the standard of refereeing that bad that we have him and Kinneavy-Ó Conámha as the semi-final officials??

Should be a good All-Ireland if Kerry see off the Royals next weekend. The law of averages suggest that Cork have to beat Kerry in Croke Park sometime but a lot of that Kerry team are probably in their last year and they will not want to bow out with a defeat to their neighbours.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

spectator

Cork came out with rough house tactics in the second half to get a reaction imo, which might hopefully get the numbers evened up. While Tyrone didn't respond to the bait, Cork knew the ref would be slow to send off a second Cork player. It was a clever, well calculated second half tactic for them as it allowed them to successfully disrupt 15 man Tyrone's play. Cork were superb - without Bannon's rash sending off they would have won at a canter. Indeed they were winning at a canter at that stage. As it was, they  had the cleverness and enough players to win handily in the end.  They have a hell of smart & savvy sideline team.

For Tryone it's most likely back to the drawing board now, to see if they can produce a new team & style of football which can one day overcome Cork's current pacy, powerful style. They've been good champions, but football is going to move on now. For Cork, their style of play & the big Croke Park pitch are starting to look to me - and many others I'm sure - like a new benchmark & at this time playing them in Croker is like something approaching a perfect storm.

Maguire01

Quote from: Canalman on August 23, 2009, 05:27:36 PM
Comprehensively beaten today and to be fair to Bannon he reffed the 2nd half well...... despite not awarding the 2 red cards which were definitely deserved in the "Miskella incident"...... for the sneak elbow and subsequent punch.
How can you have a great 35 minutes of refereeing when you don't manage to make the 2 big decisions during that period?