AISF Aug 23rd Tyrone v Cork

Started by cadhlancian, August 02, 2009, 07:11:38 PM

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Lamh Dhearg Alba

Quote from: magickingdom on August 23, 2009, 04:49:58 PM

because their playing tyrone and the only way to beat them is to beat them if you get my drift..

I doubt Cork would be taking any advice from Kerry people on how to beat Tyrone ;).

Poor performance by Tyrone today, the loss of Cavanagh was a big blow but too many players who did start failed to reach the level required. Had a suspicion going into the game that Tyrone were not near the same standard as 2008 and had not been tested this year and that was proved correct really, they didnt have it like Tyrone teams of the past few years when Cork put it up to them. No disgrace in losing today, its been a truly magnficent Tyrone team and now we will see if this is the end of the era or can Mickey lift them and get them going again.

Refereeing performance was quite farcical at times and went some way to spoiling the match as a spectacle, surely Bannon will not get many more high profile games after that.

Well done to Cork on a well deserved victory. Some superb football in the first half and they did enough thereafter to hold Tyrone off. I hope they can go on now and do themselves justice in the final and win the All-Ireland title.

INDIANA

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Tyrone would have won if they got fair play. Whatever about O'Connor, Canty and Miskella should have walked and Tyrone players were not awarded frees when they should have been. Cork got handy frees and were allowed to overcarry. Tyrone would have beaten Kerry in the final as I expect Cork will now do unfortunately.

I couldn't disagree more.

Do you think if they got fair play they still would have lost?

Myles - Why should it have been 15 v. 15? It should have been 13 v. 15 with Canty and Miskella getting the line. Canty's was like McMenamins a few years ago and he fouled a few times directly after that. That's the way it was.

Bannon gave Tyrone nothing- he absolutely rode them. But it wasn't a defining factor. Cork deserved it and could have won by more. To an extent thats the end of the current tyrone team. After Spillane's outburst I hope Cork knock seven shades of shite out of Kerry in the final if Kerry ebat Meath.

RedandGreenSniper

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Tyrone would have won if they got fair play. Whatever about O'Connor, Canty and Miskella should have walked and Tyrone players were not awarded frees when they should have been. Cork got handy frees and were allowed to overcarry. Tyrone would have beaten Kerry in the final as I expect Cork will now do unfortunately.

I couldn't disagree more.

Do you think if they got fair play they still would have lost?

Myles - Why should it have been 15 v. 15? It should have been 13 v. 15 with Canty and Miskella getting the line. Canty's was like McMenamins a few years ago and he fouled a few times directly after that. That's the way it was.

Canty or Miskella wouldn't have done either of those things were it not for the first sending off. They took advantage of the fact that Bannon was always unlikely to send off a second Cork player when he probably had a feeling he was wrong to send off O'Connor. Tyrone would still have lost if it finished 13 v 15 imo.
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mylestheslasher

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Tyrone would have won if they got fair play. Whatever about O'Connor, Canty and Miskella should have walked and Tyrone players were not awarded frees when they should have been. Cork got handy frees and were allowed to overcarry. Tyrone would have beaten Kerry in the final as I expect Cork will now do unfortunately.

I couldn't disagree more.

Do you think if they got fair play they still would have lost?

Myles - Why should it have been 15 v. 15? It should have been 13 v. 15 with Canty and Miskella getting the line. Canty's was like McMenamins a few years ago and he fouled a few times directly after that. That's the way it was.

As many have said Cork got aggressive as they were (wrongly) down to 14, but even if they only had 13 they still would have won. Can you name one Tyrone player that got the better of his opposite?

mylestheslasher

Fair play to Mickey Harte - he says Cork deserved it, Cork were better. Tyrone are not dead yet and they'll be back contending next year.

stew

A great day for all Armagh heads, our future stars, the minors kick the shite out of the animals and once again put them in their place and then the animals greatest enemy Cork destroy the former AI champions and the Armagh folk dont have to listen to the bogmen from Dungannon and ardboe etc honking their horns as hey sail past the roundabout the the foot of the Moy road.

:D :D

A great day in irish sport. Up Armagh.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

magpie seanie

Look - Tyrone despite everything hit he post late on and messed up a lot of possession late on trying for a goal. You don't get points for dominating games. Cork might have had more of the play but there was only 5 points in it at the end. We're not talking a total mauling. The writing of their obituary might be premature though one or wo might retire.

Ryano

Quote from: INDIANA on August 22, 2009, 02:04:45 PM
Tyrone for me- by 3-4points. Can't see all this optimism regarding Cork. They are playing the 3 time all-ireland champions tomorrow- not the boy scouts.

Definitely not the boy scouts.... maybe the girl guides, but certianly not the boy scouts ;D.

Have we witnessed the passing of what has simply been a magnificent Tyrone team today and the emergence of a new power in football? Its hard to see a lot of those Tyrone players being on the scene next year and maybe Micky Harte too? A lot of milage on the clock maybe a freshening up of things might be no harm.

Better team won today regardless of referee decisions good, bad or indifferent. Crying about decisions not going your way and what could have happened if this or that went your way is just sour grapes. Miskella should have gone, O'Connor should not. Tyrone had an extra man for 50 minutes of the game and could not make it count. Wiped out at midfield and defense, Cork were just a far far better side. Cavanagh would not have made a big enough difference, simply no excuses but the fact that the far better team won.

Pat Spillane is a collosal gobshite too. Just childish garbage at the end there at least Brolly was smart enough not to rise to it. Or get up and smack the cnut in the gob. Bitter shitehawk.

stiffler

Spillane- Tyrone dont have great individual players!!!


is he serious?!!
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SLIGONIAN

Bannon favoured Cork on tackling big time, he let Cork bully them physically, but saying that I still Cork would of won but of course it helped them win but alot was down to themselves not the ref. Even think Cork would of won with 13 men. Bannon definitly helped them thats undebateable IMO. Shite ref, useless, and good riddances to him.
"hard work will always beat talent if talent doesn't work"

stew

Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
Look - Tyrone despite everything hit he post late on and messed up a lot of possession late on trying for a goal. You don't get points for dominating games. Cork might have had more of the play but there was only 5 points in it at the end. We're not talking a total mauling. The writing of their obituary might be premature though one or wo might retire.

It was a mauling, the only thing that kept tyrone half way in it was the squandermania of the Cork forwards, they were down a man and toothless tyrone scored what, four points in a half they needed to score at least ten to have any chance.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

johnpower

Quote from: INDIANA on August 23, 2009, 05:14:35 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
Tyrone would have won if they got fair play. Whatever about O'Connor, Canty and Miskella should have walked and Tyrone players were not awarded frees when they should have been. Cork got handy frees and were allowed to overcarry. Tyrone would have beaten Kerry in the final as I expect Cork will now do unfortunately.

I couldn't disagree more.

Do you think if they got fair play they still would have lost?

Myles - Why should it have been 15 v. 15? It should have been 13 v. 15 with Canty and Miskella getting the line. Canty's was like McMenamins a few years ago and he fouled a few times directly after that. That's the way it was.

Bannon gave Tyrone nothing- he absolutely rode them. But it wasn't a defining factor. Cork deserved it and could have won by more. To an extent thats the end of the current tyrone team. After Spillane's outburst I hope Cork knock seven shades of shite out of Kerry in the final if Kerry ebat Meath.

You bitter bitter little man

thewobbler

Cork were better, but the referee was the main factor in that.

This is a situation that happens so often in football; when a referee won't penalise heavy tackles with the appropriate punishment earlier in a game, that if a team pulls away, then it basically gives that winning team carte blanche to get away with what they like during the closing stages. Every one of them can afford a rash, even downright dangerous tackle during that time. It's almost impossible to play against as you can't get any rhythm.


Anyone praising Cork's style of football today who in the past has criticised Tyrone's tactics should be banned from GAA grounds for a year to reflect on their hypocrisy.





stew

Quote from: stiffler on August 23, 2009, 05:20:45 PM
Spillane- Tyrone dont have great individual players!!!


is he serious?!!

not at all, he is on the wind.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

stew

Quote from: thewobbler on August 23, 2009, 05:22:57 PM
Cork were better, but the referee was the main factor in that.

This is a situation that happens so often in football; when a referee won't penalise heavy tackles with the appropriate punishment earlier in a game, that if a team pulls away, then it basically gives that winning team carte blanche to get away with what they like during the closing stages. Every one of them can afford a rash, even downright dangerous tackle during that time. It's almost impossible to play against as you can't get any rhythm.


Anyone praising Cork's style of football today who in the past has criticised Tyrone's tactics should be banned from GAA grounds for a year to reflect on their hypocrisy.

I have no sympathy for tyrone, they were destroying kerry at the half in the AISF of 03 and they employed the same tactics as Cork did today, they slowed it down and the result was a pish poor spectacle but it got the job done.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.