Kerry V Dublin

Started by magickingdom, July 26, 2009, 06:51:09 PM

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Quote from: ziggysego on July 27, 2009, 12:31:25 PM
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i never would have got that 1!

Zulu

Quote1 - It will bring a load of hype around which we don't need....Ideally let the hype settle on Tyrone/Cork shoulders
2 - If we win it will just go off the charts which again we don't need...I would sooner go through as quietly as possible
3 - If there is any team that will pull Kerry together to beat it is Dublin and I don't want to get caught like last year...


I just can't understand this type of thinking. There is always hype with Dublin teams but Dublin haven't failed to win Sam since 1995 because of hype but because of a lack of quality. Anyway there is hype in other counties too you know and in most of those counties everyone in the whole county knows who the players are and where they work and live which brings its own pressure. As for your third point I give you Cork and Tyrone as another two teams that would have galvinized Kerry just as much, probably more in fact as those two teams have beaten this Kerry squad in important games.

If Dublin are good enough to win Sam they have to beat the likes of Kerry, so they may as well meet them now, if Kerry can't focus Dublin minds then they may as well finish their seaon this weekend as they aren't worth a damn anyway.

heffo

Quote from: Zulu on July 27, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote1 - It will bring a load of hype around which we don't need....Ideally let the hype settle on Tyrone/Cork shoulders
2 - If we win it will just go off the charts which again we don't need...I would sooner go through as quietly as possible
3 - If there is any team that will pull Kerry together to beat it is Dublin and I don't want to get caught like last year...


I just can't understand this type of thinking. There is always hype with Dublin teams but Dublin haven't failed to win Sam since 1995 because of hype but because of a lack of quality. Anyway there is hype in other counties too you know and in most of those counties everyone in the whole county knows who the players are and where they work and live which brings its own pressure. As for your third point I give you Cork and Tyrone as another two teams that would have galvinized Kerry just as much, probably more in fact as those two teams have beaten this Kerry squad in important games.

If Dublin are good enough to win Sam they have to beat the likes of Kerry, so they may as well meet them now, if Kerry can't focus Dublin minds then they may as well finish their seaon this weekend as they aren't worth a damn anyway.

I'm delighted with the draw because as you say above, if we're good enough we may as well play them now as in the final - if we do manage to beat Kerry, it'll also lay down a nice marker and give the panel a huge boost.

Madness having Dubs as favourites though..

full back

In all fairness the Dubs have to be favourites

This is the time to get Kerry, not later in the season when they have picked up a bit of momentum.
Kerry are weaker than I have seen them in a long time & only a few fortunate draws in the qualifiers have got them where they are


longball

Kerrys recent run reminds me of Tyrone last year dont forget everyone had Tyrone written off up to the q/f against the Dubs! This is the game Kerry folk would have hoped for!
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muppet

This Quarter Final will clearly produce one of the All-Ireland Finalists and therefore this will be the game of the season thus far.

With less than a week to go I think all of the Irish media should forget about other stories, this is the big one. The winners will rightly be considered one of the greatest teams in the history of the Gaa and should be given a bye in the semi-final as there is no real point in dragging 80,000 people out for a non-event.

The Gaa should mark the occasion with a fireworks display and replace the Artane Boys Band with the players from the great Dublin and Kerry teams of the 1970s & 1980s. Wouldn't it be great seeing the old greats leading the new ones around the stadium just before the throw in?
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tyroneStatto

when was the last time dublin beat kerry in championship football? 1977?

Canalman

Will I'm afraid be treated to a deluge of Cute Kerry Hoorism and Slieveenism over the next week. A great draw imo for Kerry....... wil really galvanize them...... no way Cooper and O Se will be on the sideline for this one. Dublin primed for the ambush (yet again). Will be tight imo but really hope that the Dublin forwards keep the ball low if they get a goal chance. Have a feeling that there will be sendings off here.

From a Dublin perspective a win would be great (obviously) and lead to the mother and father of all grudge games v mayo (if they win).

Will put money on Keaney for first goal.

INDIANA

Quote from: kevmy on July 27, 2009, 11:49:38 AM
Pretty much the worst possible draw for Dublin.

One they could very well lose as Kerry may well have at least one big performance in them. Having said that I think Kerry will not reach the heights they have over the last few years and even if they make a final I would fancy Tyrone or Cork to take them.

However if Dublin win - Jesus the hype will go crazy - the first time in 32 yrs the beat Kerry - the first time in yrs they beat a decent team in the AI series. That will not be good for Dublin, however Tyrone, Cork and whoever comes out of Limerick/Meath/Mayo will love it.

Going on form you would have to make Dublin favourites - however if Donaghy is back that could spell serious trouble for Dublin. Forget all the stuff about the O'Sé's and Gooch, Donaghy is now the talisman for Kerry. He's a good player, provides direction to there attacks and gives Kerry a kind of carefree attitude that no one else seem to supply on that team - it's as if he's the only one who still enjoys playing football (with the exception of Kennelly - who has yet to fire and Galvin - who had a summer off and has dragged the team along this year but prob isn't a good enough pure footballer to beat the best teams on his own). It's no fluke that the only good half of football Kerry played this year was the one full half Donaghy played

Can't agree Dublin would be the worst possible draw for Mayo. Because Dublin won't allow themselves to be beaten by mayo again- one way or another after 2006. I know the Dublin lads are gunning for Mayo after 2006 but it may not even happen after yesterdays draw.
As well as that Mayo would have huge motivation going into a semi against Kerry after previous hammerings. And I would fancy Mayo to beat Kerry in that scenario.
This is the best chance we'll get of beating Kerry- if we can't do it this time round then thats it for this current Dublin team. We will just have been not good enough and will have to rebuild in a few areas. Likewise if Dublin beat kerry then thats the end of this current kerry team and probably O Connor as well.

bcarrier

Regarding sending offs ..I can see a paddy Power Special pisstake of the one player practicing sportsmanship ad ...

Darragh O Se and Ciaran Whelan both to get sent off  10/1
Darragh O Se - Yellow Card Evens
Ciaran Whelan - Yellow Card Evens

Canalman

Match on Monday next 3d august 2009. 2pm. Hope the Dublin v Down minor game precedes it.

INDIANA

Its not- dublin v down is on saturday. A double header in Breffni.

TacadoirArdMhacha

Quote from: Canalman on July 27, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
Match on Monday next 3d august 2009. 2pm. Hope the Dublin v Down minor game precedes it.

Already fixed for Cavan on Saturday although may possibly be in doubt due to the outbreak of swine flu on the Down team. Can't see why they would change it otherwise though.
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Doohicky

Bit annoyed that I am going to kmiss the match since I will be in work at the time, but ah well.

DUBSFORSAM1

Quote from: Zulu on July 27, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
Quote1 - It will bring a load of hype around which we don't need....Ideally let the hype settle on Tyrone/Cork shoulders
2 - If we win it will just go off the charts which again we don't need...I would sooner go through as quietly as possible
3 - If there is any team that will pull Kerry together to beat it is Dublin and I don't want to get caught like last year...


I just can't understand this type of thinking. There is always hype with Dublin teams but Dublin haven't failed to win Sam since 1995 because of hype but because of a lack of quality. Anyway there is hype in other counties too you know and in most of those counties everyone in the whole county knows who the players are and where they work and live which brings its own pressure. As for your third point I give you Cork and Tyrone as another two teams that would have galvinized Kerry just as much, probably more in fact as those two teams have beaten this Kerry squad in important games.

If Dublin are good enough to win Sam they have to beat the likes of Kerry, so they may as well meet them now, if Kerry can't focus Dublin minds then they may as well finish their seaon this weekend as they aren't worth a damn anyway.

Kerry know they can beat Cork in Croke Park as losing a Munster game has happened before and they have come back....Yes they would focus against Tyrone but at least Tyrone are known to be a serious top class team whereas we would be known as a bunch of bottlers and they couldn't accept losing to us and facing the folk at home.....

If you are good enough to win it means you have to be there on the last day of the season with a chance to win....Playing Kerry reduces our chances of making it....Its like last year where Tyrone were brutal, lost to Down after a replay, fluked past Westmeath in Omagh, were blessed against Mayo who threw the game away, got the break with the extra week off last year and beat us and went on to win the final...In knock-out it can just be a bit of bad luck that costs a team the game and you are out.....If your arguement holds up then a win going through Kildare, Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone is just as easy as going through Kildare, Limerick, Meath, Donegal...