USFC Final Antrim v Tyrone Clones 19th July

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up tyrone

Quote from: loughshore lad on July 19, 2009, 07:54:51 PM
The saffrons brought great colour and banter to Clones today.  Its great to see the enthusiasm this run has generated within their fans, I really hope they see Croke park and give their fans a day out down there.

Tyrone always had that bit extra today but there are plenty of areas to work on.  Gormley, the 2 McMahons and Cavanagh all had very good games I thought.
PJ got it tough with Cunningham while Dooher, O'Neill and Penrose were all not at their usual standard and could have been taken off earlier.  Club loyalties aside the substitution of Tommy puzzled me slightly to be honest.  Cant quite work out the fascination with Colm Cavanagh myself to be honest.  Longball was asking earlier about Mulgrew, by all accounts he left the panel last week and didn't go to Carlton house for the weekend with the squad but was coaxed back.

I`d heard last weekend that colm cavanagh was nearly sure of starting today instead of enda from 1 of the players,was supposed to be playing deadly well in training.funny how people can latch onto certain players and start 2 criticise them,i think we`ll leave it 2 mickey 2 decide he know`s best he see`s them in training more than the people that comment here.as for the mulgrew story he wud`nt have been in carton house as tyrone didnt stay their.as for the game tyrone never got out of 1st gear.stevie`s form is worrying.have 2 say after watching the video that padraig hughes is a clown i thought he was antrims best player as i said a wk ago i knew we wud get nothing of him.

Main Street

That Antrim crowd gave great support to their team in their efforts to get back into the game
It will be interesting to see how that team perform in the next round.

Only Armagh, for a brief 2nd half period, ruffled Tyrone out of their stride in this years UC.
Today Tyrone were ready at all times to up their game when required.

No surprise to most people that they are the well deserved Ulster champions of 2009 and by a country mile.





loughshore lad

Quote from: up tyrone on July 19, 2009, 08:09:50 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on July 19, 2009, 07:54:51 PM
The saffrons brought great colour and banter to Clones today.  Its great to see the enthusiasm this run has generated within their fans, I really hope they see Croke park and give their fans a day out down there.

Tyrone always had that bit extra today but there are plenty of areas to work on.  Gormley, the 2 McMahons and Cavanagh all had very good games I thought.
PJ got it tough with Cunningham while Dooher, O'Neill and Penrose were all not at their usual standard and could have been taken off earlier.  Club loyalties aside the substitution of Tommy puzzled me slightly to be honest.  Cant quite work out the fascination with Colm Cavanagh myself to be honest.  Longball was asking earlier about Mulgrew, by all accounts he left the panel last week and didn't go to Carlton house for the weekend with the squad but was coaxed back.

I`d heard last weekend that colm cavanagh was nearly sure of starting today instead of enda from 1 of the players,was supposed to be playing deadly well in training.funny how people can latch onto certain players and start 2 criticise them,i think we`ll leave it 2 mickey 2 decide he know`s best he see`s them in training more than the people that comment here.as for the mulgrew story he wud`nt have been in carton house as tyrone didnt stay their.as for the game tyrone never got out of 1st gear.stevie`s form is worrying.have 2 say after watching the video that padraig hughes is a clown i thought he was antrims best player as i said a wk ago i knew we wud get nothing of him.

I didnt criticise Colm Cavanagh - I just said I dont see the fascination with him, there is a difference.  One of the players told me the same thing about him playing well in training as well, the same player also told me Mulgrew didnt go last weekend and I have no reason to doubt that.

tyssam5

Quote from: sam03/05 on July 19, 2009, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on July 19, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
I am startin to worry about Tyrone at this stage of the championship. The term "Tyrone never really got out of 3rd gear" is startin to annoy me. In my opinion this is Tyrone playing as well as they can, no team goes out in an Ulster final with the mentality that we will just do enough to get bye. The best thing Tyrone could have done Today was to beat Antrim by 10 or more points to show that they mean business but they didn't.  I really fear for Tyrone in the next stage of the championship and for the people who seem to think Tyrone can up a gear or two what if this is Tyrone in top gear.

the real businness starts in August/ September
it is hard to play brilliant football every time you go out. I would say the dubs for example will find it hard to produce that type of performance
that they did against Kildare/westmeath the next two days they go out. Better to hit the heights around quarter final/semi final stage just like Tyrone have done in 05/08. Its not bad when you win an Ulster Championship without getting out of 3rd gear. So far only certain players have played well in certain games
But if everyone hits form on the one day then we are in for some display. Mickey will be loving the fact that he has a lot of things to work on

I'm still looking forward to a big game from Stevie O'Neill.

imtommygunn

I wouldn't entirely agree with the opinion the ref gave antrim everything. He dished out cards very quickly to antrim i thought and justin mcmahon probably should have conceded a few more frees...

Antrim ran into a few problems at the start. Basically Kevin Brady hadn't the legs for Tyrone's attacking HB line, McMenamim was killing them as the spare man and Niall McKeever didn't have the legs to get anywhere near Sean Cavanagh. Once they rectified these then the game was a lot better however damage had been done. One other problem was poor keeper kickouts which never got rectified.

Antrim stayed in it well at times and to be honest have the makings of a decent side. I was happy with the display. We, or most teams, are just not at Tyrone's level. Every player on Tyrone's side is just so mobile and adept on the ball. While O'Neill may get criticism every time he gets the ball something looks likely to happen. The weakest link in your team would be I would say, Penrose.

Joe McMahon, Cavanagh, McMenamin(my MoM), Justin McMahon best for Tyrone.

Mick McCann, Tony Scullion and Cunningham best for Antrim. Expected better of Tomas.

Those who say that was a stroll - it was no greater a stroll than any of your last two games so a tad patronising on antrim.


Tyrones own

QuoteI'm still looking forward to a big game from Stevie O'Neill.

I think some of ye might be misinterpreting what it is he has been doing in there
He draws men to him out of fear which in turn opens a lot of space for the others.
Sure it cut's down on his scoring threat having two or three men on him but I think he's doing just fine
..the likes of Mulligan needs him in there !
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

tyssam5

Quote from: Tyrones own on July 19, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
QuoteI'm still looking forward to a big game from Stevie O'Neill.

I think some of ye might be misinterpreting what it is he has been doing in there
He draws men to him out of fear which in turn opens a lot of space for the others.
Sure it cut's down on his scoring threat having two or three men on him but I think he's doing just fine
..the likes of Mulligan needs him in there !


I agree completely. I know that value of what he is doing, a lot like what we used to get from PC on certain days. Just looking forward to seeing him cut loose in Croker if given the chance.

Now can some man who is smarter than me explain the mechanics of the 1/4 final draw, can we get anybody or how does it work?

tyronefan

we will meet one of the winners from the qualifiers but we cant meet Antrim

tyssam5

Quote from: tyronefan on July 19, 2009, 08:38:59 PM
we will meet one of the winners from the qualifiers but we cant meet Antrim

Right but are the semis (not be presuming anything) still done on provincial basis, i.e. say all provincial champs won, would we be playing a certain province this year in the semi?

Tyrones own

Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
  - Walter Lippmann

tyronefan

the winners of Ulster or whoever beats them in the quarters plays the winners of Munster or who ever beats them in the quarters and  the same with the other 2

Aaron Boone

I know after last year it's the pot calling the kettle black, but it's unfair on provincial winners not knowing who they are playing.
What game do Mickey Harte/Tony Donnelly goto next weekend?

Rois

#597
Loughshore Lad, have to disagree, Tommy would have been my second player subbed, after John Devine. I thought the kickouts left a bit to be desired today.
That's the first match since Newry last yr that Brian Dooher hasn't scored in, and yet I wasn't too unhappy with his performance, some sublime passes made. Prob doesn't have 70 mins in him any more.

Oh, and the anthem singer sang the right first line... :P

DennistheMenace

Just goes to show the strength in-depth in Tyrone whenever their main forward O'Neill and their captain Dooher both had poor games by their standards and they still won easily.


Knock Yer Mucker In

That was astroll in the park today. I have to say that i think we are in great shape compared to this time last year. I would be concerned about O'Neills form, and Mickey is going to soon have to amke a call on it that i don't think he wants to do, but as we all know in football the next game can turn it all around. Big sean destroyed Mc Keever. My only worry is that due to having not had a real test that when one comes we might just struggle to meet it heag on, but no better group of footballers to do back to back All irelands.

Antrim did just about OK, but that was done to Tyrones kindness, the game was dead and buried after 12 mintues.
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