Racist attacks in Belfast

[nifan]

Do you mean combat 18 (i.e the organisation) ? Are you saying its more orchestrated ?

No idea, but i mean amongst those who have links with such organizations im not surprised by violent racist actions, whether orchestrated or not.

[theskull1]

The human species has always gathered into pack societies for "protection" and that is still the case today. In todays world, if the leaders in the "pack" where you live (at a local level) encourage and show you have to make a positive contribution to the world you are living in then you will ape that behaviour and eventually you will become a leader and repeat the cycle. The same aping is taking place in areas like the village but the leaders in those areas would not be contributing in a positive way to the world around them...hence the downward spiral of those areas. These scumbags unfortunately know no different just like the generations before them.


Be thankful you don't live in areas where these sort of things happen (especially if your a unionist  )

[Doogie Browser]

Glad to see some measured debate here, there is no doubt there is a very racist under-current in Irish society orange & green, I hear it from my own friends often enough and it disgusts me.  There does appear to be a more organised attempt at intimidation in loyalist communities though and this is very apparent, why is this?  I don't know but traditionally they have a very NIMBY attitude to any group different than themselves.  

[tyronefella]

In all fairness some of them Romanians can be very annoying, especiallly trying to sell roses round the botanic inn.

[haveaharp]

Glad to see some measured debate here, there is no doubt there is a very racist under-current in Irish society orange & green, I hear it from my own friends often enough and it disgusts me.  There does appear to be a more organised attempt at intimidation in loyalist communities though and this is very apparent, why is this?  I don't know but traditionally they have a very NIMBY attitude to any group different than themselves.  

Is it because they have less of a tradition of being emigrants themselves ?

[full back]

Any man/woman that comes over here & works to improve their lives is to be commended

Any man/woman that comes over here & takes their family with them when there is no work to be had & expects to be looked after isnt to be commended.

If I went to the US, & didnt work & decided to beg for a living would I get looked after by the locals?

[lfdown2]

Glad to see some measured debate here, there is no doubt there is a very racist under-current in Irish society orange & green, I hear it from my own friends often enough and it disgusts me.  There does appear to be a more organised attempt at intimidation in loyalist communities though and this is very apparent, why is this?  I don't know but traditionally they have a very NIMBY attitude to any group different than themselves.  

Is it because they have less of a tradition of being emigrants themselves ?

thought of the same reason myself

[Doogie Browser]

Top story on BBC website and most read.

[A Quinn Martin Production]

Top story on BBC website and most read.

Third story on BBC NI site. 

I was amazed at the coverage on BBC 5Live this morning, I know they're supposed to give balanced coverage but it sounded like Nicky Campbell was trying to come up with excuses for these thugs.

[Doogie Browser]

Top story on BBC website and most read.

Third story on BBC NI site. 

I was amazed at the coverage on BBC 5Live this morning, I know they're supposed to give balanced coverage but it sounded like Nicky Campbell was trying to come up with excuses for these thugs.

That is Nicky Campbell all the time tries to hard to be seen as fair to his interviewees, he has a Sunday morning talk show on BBC1 too and it is full of sensationalist bull shit.

[theskull1]

Heard 5live myself and had the exact same thoughts aqmp.

Does he actually think that there is well considered reason and intellect involved in these boys decisions to do what they do?  

[A Quinn Martin Production]

Heard 5live myself and had the exact same thoughts aqmp.

Does he actually think that there is well considered reason and intellect involved in these boys decisions to do what they do?  

He would have taken a very different tack had it been Asians being chased out of Burnley by the BNP

[Roger]

The unionist politicans condemnation of this is deafening.

Are you deaf? If you'd turned your radio on this morning you'd have heard plenty of unionist Politicans condemning these attacks.

Pure hatred is all it is!!
These pro-nazi hoods no doubt will be wearing proudly their poppies in another few months to display their britishness, to remember the fallen of  WWII, when, thats right the nazis and fascism were crushed.

Unionists have a strong track record of sacrifice in the opposition and defeat of Nazis.  Not all sections of the community can say that.

[haveaharp]

The unionist politicans condemnation of this is deafening.

Are you deaf? If you'd turned your radio on this morning you'd have heard plenty of unionist Politicans condemning these attacks.

Pure hatred is all it is!!
These pro-nazi hoods no doubt will be wearing proudly their poppies in another few months to display their britishness, to remember the fallen of  WWII, when, thats right the nazis and fascism were crushed.

Not all sections of the community can say that.

or would want to

[Orior]

The unionist politicans condemnation of this is deafening.

Pure hatred is all it is!!
These pro-nazi hoods no doubt will be wearing proudly their poppies in another few months to display their britishness, to remember the fallen of  WWII, when, thats right the nazis and fascism were crushed.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the hoods will also be at Windsor supporting OWC.

What kept you Orior?  I was expecting the blame to be put on Norn Iron fans long before post 18.

Sorry, I was busy 

Do you reckon they're not OWC fans?