Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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Grace Murphy

Quote from: breakingball78 on October 07, 2025, 10:46:47 PMThis might seem rash but I think we should bring VAR into the GAA. Would soon sort the problem imo.

The county board would block it because the game is for the rich not the poor!

BroncoConroy

Don't normally post here(shocking i have to give context or be slated) but jeezus lads do you think the referee goes out and thinks to themselves aye Im gonna mess up this decision and that, no they do not they also have given up their time and effort to be there. I don't see much of yous stepping up and being a ref, mixed with all the pressure it comes with too by yous, quit hiding behind a screen and try being a ref ffs lol.

tyrone08

Quote from: BroncoConroy on October 07, 2025, 11:23:11 PMDon't normally post here(shocking i have to give context or be slated) but jeezus lads do you think the referee goes out and thinks to themselves aye Im gonna mess up this decision and that, no they do not they also have given up their time and effort to be there. I don't see much of yous stepping up and being a ref, mixed with all the pressure it comes with too by yous, quit hiding behind a screen and try being a ref ffs lol.

Do you actually think some refs don't go out to try and shaft a team, of course they do. Not saying everyone does it but its naive to suggest that it doesn't happen.  Try being a player training all year and missing family events just to get knocked out by a poor ref decision, is that fair? Mistakes will happen but most organizations try and learn from them and improve. The GAA stance seems to be lets ignore it. Players often get slated by the media, fans, pundits etc for making basic mistakes- why should refs be immune to this?

Is it too much to ask for a ref to come on and discuss their performance after a game? We expect players and managers to do it.

WeeDonns

Quote from: tyrone08 on October 08, 2025, 07:25:47 AMIs it too much to ask for a ref to come on and discuss their performance after a game? We expect players and managers to do it.
Ah now come on, this isn't the premier league.
I think refereeing at club level has always been as poor, there are just more neutral eyes on it now with streaming of games.

Gutted for Drumragh, feel they've left that one behind.
Saturday comes very quickly now - is it tougher for Drumragh, who put in a superb performance, than Cookstown who probably feel they got away with not performing well enough in that first half, to get prepared for the replay?

RedHand88

Quote from: tyrone08 on October 08, 2025, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: BroncoConroy on October 07, 2025, 11:23:11 PMDon't normally post here(shocking i have to give context or be slated) but jeezus lads do you think the referee goes out and thinks to themselves aye Im gonna mess up this decision and that, no they do not they also have given up their time and effort to be there. I don't see much of yous stepping up and being a ref, mixed with all the pressure it comes with too by yous, quit hiding behind a screen and try being a ref ffs lol.

Do you actually think some refs don't go out to try and shaft a team, of course they do. Not saying everyone does it but its naive to suggest that it doesn't happen.  Try being a player training all year and missing family events just to get knocked out by a poor ref decision, is that fair? Mistakes will happen but most organizations try and learn from them and improve. The GAA stance seems to be lets ignore it. Players often get slated by the media, fans, pundits etc for making basic mistakes- why should refs be immune to this?

Is it too much to ask for a ref to come on and discuss their performance after a game? We expect players and managers to do it.

YES

alwaysbackthedraw

Drumragh obviously can hold the excuse about the referees mistake with the 2 pointer but they shouldn't have put themselves in the position to rely on it. They were well clear and the let cookstown back into it. They have to hold themselves accountable
'A clap on the back is only about two feet from a kick in the arse'

Bring back kellys inn

could it not be possible to bring refs in from other counties for big games like this when there clearly isnt enough competent refs in Tyrone. However there will be no ulster for cookstown with 2 poor games now. Dont seem up for it

pintandgaaman


Bring back kellys inn

Quote from: bringbackdregish on October 08, 2025, 08:30:30 AMCookstown struggled for a while in QF and now getting saved by the referee/umpires last night.

I doubt there were a few brown envelopes handed out last night
Wouldnt be the first time by all accounts

Jim Bob


Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

alwaysbackthedraw

Would be some Achievement for errigal if they get over the line on Sunday, would make it that they will be in 4 senior finals in a row. Same as how many clubs they can choose from
'A clap on the back is only about two feet from a kick in the arse'

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: alwaysbackthedraw on October 08, 2025, 09:33:36 AMWould be some Achievement for errigal if they get over the line on Sunday, would make it that they will be in 4 senior finals in a row. Same as how many clubs they can choose from

Will you back the draw?
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.

GlenMan

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

Sean Og Patriots

Quote from: GlenMan on October 08, 2025, 09:50:25 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on October 08, 2025, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Donegal Boarder on October 07, 2025, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on October 07, 2025, 10:41:31 PMReferees have been disgustingly poor this year, so many costly decisions or lack of clarity form the refereeing team. The Hurson 2 pointer, was that an umpire or referee error. Massive call.

Omagh vs Errigal, too many decisions in that game to go over. Shane used to be the best in the county, those days have passed.

Moy vs Eglish. Seen the video of disallowed Moy goal. Sparky is guessing from distance and guessed wrong. Over ruled the umpire who was reaching for the green flag.

Drumragh vs Cookstown, 2 pointer ruled out.

Players go through the mill all year to prepare for these moments only to be done over by incompetence. Referees need to look at better training and better support teams. Buck has to stop with Shane Dorrity.

To add to this, the amount of one sided referee performances is absolutely frightening
Refereeing decisions could have left a very different looking championship at this stage. Trillick, Errigal, Eglish and Cookstown could and maybe should all be gone but for the referees decisions favouring them. Seems to be a common trend that the percieved favourites are coming out the right side of these decisions. Definite need for referees to be held accountable - I wonder what the feedback from assessors is and what effect this has on the allocation of referees.

Clearly it has no effect.

While I thought Cahal bell was okay last night, he shouldn't have got the game at all after his disastrous performance in trillick/pomeroy. He was also on the line for two other senior games the same weekend.

Shane meehan also back out on the line (and as standby referee) in Dungannon on sunday.

No lessons are being learnt. Referees are not being held accountable. And even worse, we seem to be under utilising the small number of good referees we have - hurson and Eannetta have done 1 maybe 2 games each. It's baffling.

So what now — we publicly shame referees every time they make a bad call? Strip them naked for missing a foul?
If you're looking for someone to blame, sure, go ahead and point fingers at the officials. It's easier than blaming your own players. It must be the referee's fault.
I have always depended on the kindness of strangers. All Ireland Club - 2030.