Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:54:03 PM

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Jerome

With teams back to their full quota with county players the league will start to take a more realistic shape. Galbally would be a top 8 club and that's where they will finish

Just about getting them teams in good shape for championship now.

Themanupnorth

Quote from: GAAtrojan on August 09, 2025, 01:37:44 PMSome massive results in intermediate last night, Moy league challenge ended emphatically.
Quote from: GAAtrojan on August 09, 2025, 01:37:44 PMSome massive results in intermediate last night, Moy league challenge ended emphatically.

Aghayarn pushing to avoid be dragged into a relegation playoff.

Newtown/Dregish doing Newtown/Dregish things. I was talking to a Newtown man last week and they were saying about how well they are getting on this year, however only 2 points ahead of everyone's whipping boys at the start of the season (Drumquin).

Drumquin click and wipe the floor with greencastle, according to reports Drumquin by far the best team (with a few important men missing on the Drumquin team). By all accounts Gormley's performance was outstanding finishing with 1:10.

Clonoes to lose now?

Kileeshill gone?

Stewartstown in bother.

Beragh a very impressive performance with some massive men missing, beating a hardy Aghaloo team, Beragh now could push on and maybe have an outside chance of a playoff.

Rock have turned the corner and are pushing to avoid being dragged into the relegation playoff

Massive 2 weeks ahead.
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Aghayarn pushing to avoid be dragged into a relegation playoff.

Newtown/Dregish doing Newtown/Dregish things. I was talking to a Newtown man last week and they were saying about how well they are getting on this year, however only 2 points ahead of everyone's whipping boys at the start of the season (Drumquin).

Drumquin click and wipe the floor with greencastle, according to reports Drumquin by far the best team (with a few important men missing on the Drumquin team). By all accounts Gormley's performance was outstanding finishing with 1:10.

Clonoes to lose now?

Kileeshill gone?

Stewartstown in bother.

Beragh a very impressive performance with some massive men missing, beating a hardy Aghaloo team, Beragh now could push on and maybe have an outside chance of a playoff.

Rock have turned the corner and are pushing to avoid being dragged into the relegation playoff

Massive 2 weeks ahead.

Hearing that every win drumquinn have had this year the other team have been missing key men. Playing teams at the right time just.

GAAtrojan

Quote from: Themanupnorth on August 09, 2025, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: GAAtrojan on August 09, 2025, 01:37:44 PMSome massive results in intermediate last night, Moy league challenge ended emphatically.
Quote from: GAAtrojan on August 09, 2025, 01:37:44 PMSome massive results in intermediate last night, Moy league challenge ended emphatically.

Aghayarn pushing to avoid be dragged into a relegation playoff.

Newtown/Dregish doing Newtown/Dregish things. I was talking to a Newtown man last week and they were saying about how well they are getting on this year, however only 2 points ahead of everyone's whipping boys at the start of the season (Drumquin).

Drumquin click and wipe the floor with greencastle, according to reports Drumquin by far the best team (with a few important men missing on the Drumquin team). By all accounts Gormley's performance was outstanding finishing with 1:10.

Clonoes to lose now?

Kileeshill gone?

Stewartstown in bother.

Beragh a very impressive performance with some massive men missing, beating a hardy Aghaloo team, Beragh now could push on and maybe have an outside chance of a playoff.

Rock have turned the corner and are pushing to avoid being dragged into the relegation playoff

Massive 2 weeks ahead.
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Aghayarn pushing to avoid be dragged into a relegation playoff.

Newtown/Dregish doing Newtown/Dregish things. I was talking to a Newtown man last week and they were saying about how well they are getting on this year, however only 2 points ahead of everyone's whipping boys at the start of the season (Drumquin).

Drumquin click and wipe the floor with greencastle, according to reports Drumquin by far the best team (with a few important men missing on the Drumquin team). By all accounts Gormley's performance was outstanding finishing with 1:10.

Clonoes to lose now?

Kileeshill gone?

Stewartstown in bother.

Beragh a very impressive performance with some massive men missing, beating a hardy Aghaloo team, Beragh now could push on and maybe have an outside chance of a playoff.

Rock have turned the corner and are pushing to avoid being dragged into the relegation playoff

Massive 2 weeks ahead.

Hearing that every win drumquinn have had this year the other team have been missing key men. Playing teams at the right time just.

Who was greencastle missing?

ManFromMoygashel

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 09, 2025, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: ManFromMoygashel on August 06, 2025, 07:06:29 PMI think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

Do people think it's either a derby game or rivalry but it can't be both? Would they argue that Celtic vs rangers isn't a rivalry as they are from the same city so it's therefore just a derby game.

Every derby game is a rivalry on the basis of it being a derby. But obviously not all rivalries are derbys


Ardboe vs moortown, Galbally vs donaghmore, Coalisland vs clonoe etc are all rivalries because they are derby games. Errigal vs carrickmore or omagh vs dromore are rivalries but aren't derbys.

Rivalry - "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field." straight off google fyi

Yes you can have both derby and rivalry. Like Celtic/rangers and coalisland/clone

They are great rivalries because they've competed loads of times against each other for the same prize and both have bested each other.

With reference to Loughmacrory and Carrickmore with was my original point, They are a derby game, but a rilvary is pushing it. Id say in the last 20/30 years they've played 2 or 3 championship games and a handful of league games with Loughmacory winning only 2 (of the last 3) but traditionally Loughmacrory hasnt competed with Carrickmore and therefore wouldn't have a traditional rivarly. Give it a few more years however and i think it'll be fair to call it a rivalry then.

Donaghmore/Gabally could fit this dynamic as-well ( albeit they've competed at the same level alot more consistently over the last 10 years)

Ardoe/moortown are the exception to prove my rule. They've not competed at the same level much in recent years but have a historical rivalry from 40/50 years ago. So i guess when does an old rivalry become irrelevant?




Easttyrone23

Quote from: ManFromMoygashel on August 09, 2025, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 09, 2025, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: ManFromMoygashel on August 06, 2025, 07:06:29 PMI think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

Do people think it's either a derby game or rivalry but it can't be both? Would they argue that Celtic vs rangers isn't a rivalry as they are from the same city so it's therefore just a derby game.

Every derby game is a rivalry on the basis of it being a derby. But obviously not all rivalries are derbys


Ardboe vs moortown, Galbally vs donaghmore, Coalisland vs clonoe etc are all rivalries because they are derby games. Errigal vs carrickmore or omagh vs dromore are rivalries but aren't derbys.

Rivalry - "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field." straight off google fyi

Yes you can have both derby and rivalry. Like Celtic/rangers and coalisland/clone

They are great rivalries because they've competed loads of times against each other for the same prize and both have bested each other.

With reference to Loughmacrory and Carrickmore with was my original point, They are a derby game, but a rilvary is pushing it. Id say in the last 20/30 years they've played 2 or 3 championship games and a handful of league games with Loughmacory winning only 2 (of the last 3) but traditionally Loughmacrory hasnt competed with Carrickmore and therefore wouldn't have a traditional rivarly. Give it a few more years however and i think it'll be fair to call it a rivalry then.

Donaghmore/Gabally could fit this dynamic as-well ( albeit they've competed at the same level alot more consistently over the last 10 years)

Ardoe/moortown are the exception to prove my rule. They've not competed at the same level much in recent years but have a historical rivalry from 40/50 years ago. So i guess when does an old rivalry become irrelevant?




Im not sure you understand the argument I'm making. I'm saying that derbies regardless of how little/often they've faced each other in the past or regardless how little/much success they've had in the past will always be a rivalry when facing each other in the same competition.

Is it really that hard for some people to not understand how there could possibly be a rivalry between 2 clubs from the same parish and attend the same schools/chapels/community centre/gyms/shops etc?





Easttyrone23

Quote from: Augher112 on August 09, 2025, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.


Is there many with you taking pints in Galbally clubrooms this fine Saturday morning?

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 09, 2025, 10:50:36 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.



They look to have peaked too early for the second year in a row.

Galballys 3rd place finish last year was their highest league finish in their history, and even if they lose all their remaining fixtures this year it would be in the top 3 or 4 in their history.

You must be very young or new to football in Tyrone if you think this is them peaking too early. The last few years have literally been the peek in Galballys 75+ year history.


marty34

Just speaking of Galbally.

Would Paddy Tally now take a club team in Tyrone?

KingKong1

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 10, 2025, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Augher112 on August 09, 2025, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.


Is there many with you taking pints in Galbally clubrooms this fine Saturday morning?

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 09, 2025, 10:50:36 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.



They look to have peaked too early for the second year in a row.

Galballys 3rd place finish last year was their highest league finish in their history, and even if they lose all their remaining fixtures this year it would be in the top 3 or 4 in their history.

You must be very young or new to football in Tyrone if you think this is them peaking too early. The last few years have literally been the peek in Galballys 75+ year history.


I think the main issue is that Galbally were riding high at the top of the league for the last 2 years until this point but couldnt get the job done. The Donaghmore result without some of their key men (granted Galbally were missing a few) unfortunately shows they just aren't at that level just yet...although they shouldn't be far away. If Donaghmore overturn them again in the championship it would be a rarely disastrous year for then.

RedHand88

Quote from: KingKong1 on August 10, 2025, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 10, 2025, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Augher112 on August 09, 2025, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.


Is there many with you taking pints in Galbally clubrooms this fine Saturday morning?




Galbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.



They look to have peaked too early for the second year in a row.

Galballys 3rd place finish last year was their highest league finish in their history, and even if they lose all their remaining fixtures this year it would be in the top 3 or 4 in their history.

You must be very young or new to football in Tyrone if you think this is them peaking too early. The last few years have literally been the peek in Galballys 75+ year history.


I think the main issue is that Galbally were riding high at the top of the league for the last 2 years until this point but couldnt get the job done. The Donaghmore result without some of their key men (granted Galbally were missing a few) unfortunately shows they just aren't at that level just yet...although they shouldn't be far away. If Donaghmore overturn them again in the championship it would be a rarely disastrous year for then.

So..... peaking too early then?

ManFromMoygashel

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 10, 2025, 08:06:39 AM
Quote from: ManFromMoygashel on August 09, 2025, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 09, 2025, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: ManFromMoygashel on August 06, 2025, 07:06:29 PMI think people are mixing up derby and rivalry. If anything the lough played their rivals last friday...

Do people think it's either a derby game or rivalry but it can't be both? Would they argue that Celtic vs rangers isn't a rivalry as they are from the same city so it's therefore just a derby game.

Every derby game is a rivalry on the basis of it being a derby. But obviously not all rivalries are derbys


Ardboe vs moortown, Galbally vs donaghmore, Coalisland vs clonoe etc are all rivalries because they are derby games. Errigal vs carrickmore or omagh vs dromore are rivalries but aren't derbys.

Rivalry - "competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field." straight off google fyi

Yes you can have both derby and rivalry. Like Celtic/rangers and coalisland/clone

They are great rivalries because they've competed loads of times against each other for the same prize and both have bested each other.

With reference to Loughmacrory and Carrickmore with was my original point, They are a derby game, but a rilvary is pushing it. Id say in the last 20/30 years they've played 2 or 3 championship games and a handful of league games with Loughmacory winning only 2 (of the last 3) but traditionally Loughmacrory hasnt competed with Carrickmore and therefore wouldn't have a traditional rivarly. Give it a few more years however and i think it'll be fair to call it a rivalry then.

Donaghmore/Gabally could fit this dynamic as-well ( albeit they've competed at the same level alot more consistently over the last 10 years)

Ardoe/moortown are the exception to prove my rule. They've not competed at the same level much in recent years but have a historical rivalry from 40/50 years ago. So i guess when does an old rivalry become irrelevant?




Im not sure you understand the argument I'm making. I'm saying that derbies regardless of how little/often they've faced each other in the past or regardless how little/much success they've had in the past will always be a rivalry when facing each other in the same competition.

Is it really that hard for some people to not understand how there could possibly be a rivalry between 2 clubs from the same parish and attend the same schools/chapels/community centre/gyms/shops etc?






What you're explaining here is a derby. A derby will always be a rivalry but a rivalry isn't always a derby.

A derby is geographic and a rivalry is traditional/historic.

Durmragh/omagh is a derby. It's not a rivalry.

My original post was that people use these terms incorrectly... I stand by that and will move on.

KingKong1

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 10, 2025, 11:35:22 AM
Quote from: KingKong1 on August 10, 2025, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on August 10, 2025, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Augher112 on August 09, 2025, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: dhá chos chlé on August 09, 2025, 10:23:57 AMGalbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.


Is there many with you taking pints in Galbally clubrooms this fine Saturday morning?




Galbally two loses on the bounce and not an ideal run out to end the league,
Could fall out of the top 4 after a super start to the league, they must have a run of injuries,  as on their day fully fit they are one of if not the best team in the county.



They look to have peaked too early for the second year in a row.

Galballys 3rd place finish last year was their highest league finish in their history, and even if they lose all their remaining fixtures this year it would be in the top 3 or 4 in their history.

You must be very young or new to football in Tyrone if you think this is them peaking too early. The last few years have literally been the peek in Galballys 75+ year history.


I think the main issue is that Galbally were riding high at the top of the league for the last 2 years until this point but couldnt get the job done. The Donaghmore result without some of their key men (granted Galbally were missing a few) unfortunately shows they just aren't at that level just yet...although they shouldn't be far away. If Donaghmore overturn them again in the championship it would be a rarely disastrous year for then.

So..... peaking too early then?


I'd say they are maxing out on what they have until the county men come back. If everyone was at full strength from the start with County men, Galbally would be sitting mid table at best.

giveherlong

Drumragh turn over Cookstown
What's the league permutations now?

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: giveherlong on August 10, 2025, 06:18:01 PMDrumragh turn over Cookstown
What's the league permutations now?
Winner takes all next Sunday. Draw will also do Cookstown.

ClubScene13

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on August 10, 2025, 06:22:31 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on August 10, 2025, 06:18:01 PMDrumragh turn over Cookstown
What's the league permutations now?
Winner takes all next Sunday. Draw will also do Cookstown.

League final next Sunday essentially.

Eglish v Clonoe on Wednesday night wouldn't be far off a league final either - winner will finish the night top of the league with only 3 games left each.

TyroneClubs

Clonoe a very difficult with their last 5 games all against the other teams in top 6. Moy down already, if they come through the next 4, they will most certainly be deserving champions. But I'm sure Eglish and Coalisland in the next two will have lots to say about that.

Big week ahead in intermediate with a lot of the bottom 5/6 teams olaying each other on Wednesday and Sunday