Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Mikhailov]

Youth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Derrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

Not sure what the ouroborous remark means here to be honest. perhaps showing my own density. Do you think its not worth paying or something else?

Snake eating its own tail

GAA is allegedly a volunteer lead organisation.

GAA wants a good game thats marketable

Clubs pay money they take from local communities and volunteers to pay a professional coach.

Coach is expected to produce verified results, pressure to show results = underage trophies.

Unless they're doing a detailed skills audit every so often to demonstrate how individuals are progressing.

If the post for the job is to be believed they should be reviewing player progress as well as making job of volunteer coaches much easier also. I suppose reviewing player progress is one thing but demanding success is another.

Will certainly be a very tight line to try and walk.

I suppose some of our neighbours in Derry and in particular Slaughtneil might be able to tell us how its worked for them Chrissy McKaigue has been a full time games promotion officer there for a number of years.

Are you sure McKaigue is still in that role?
Surely not as he has a full time post in St Pats Maghera, also coaching Ardboe minors plus now with Derry seniors......can't see how Slaughtneil would pay a man a salary and let him do all of the other roles as well.
Think he done it a few years ago but not so sure now.

[PastThePost]

County player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney

Next time Tyrone play Castlederg, Malachy should give them a shout.

Levels in football are dictated by time and space, basically those who can operate with less time and space are better equipped to perform at the highest level, in junior football you have considerably more time and space on the ball than you do in intermediate, and more again than in senior, whereas there are players who are capable of playing county football who are currently playing junior football, the truth is they are few and far between.
It definitely isn't an ideal preparation for county football, and it's not possible to say players who are playing well in junior football would perform at county level...as it's a completely different ball game.

[tyrone08]

Could you not have a player who is playing to a very high standard who is unfortunately from a poor club?

Ruling out an entire batch of players because their club is poor seems odd.

[Grace Murphy]

Just signed up to Carrickmore Hyrox for the doubles me and my hunky Tyrone Husband. Love a day out mucker.

Will they do another Hyrox after they are knocked out of champo early??? Would defo take part.

[Easttyrone23]

Hearing today Kieran McGeary has plans to move to Kileeshil to live next year. Strong chance he will transfer to them too is the word, from a Pomeroy man's mouth

Yeah you couldn't expect the man to travel all the way to pomeroy from killeshil 🙄. Why would a former player of year travel 10 mins to pomeroy when he could play junior club football at his doorstep with killeeshil next year.

[Easttyrone23]

County player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney

No disrespect to those players in junior football but if you take into account the multiple players that standout in senior club football that don't even get near the Tyrone squad then how would you expect those in junior level to?

[Snapchap]

Just signed up to Carrickmore Hyrox for the doubles me and my hunky Tyrone Husband. Love a day out mucker.

Will they do another Hyrox after they are knocked out of champo early??? Would defo take part.

Husband? Lol.

You cant get married until you're 18. Going by your contributions to this board, you've a while to go yet.

[tc_manchester]

County player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney

Next time Tyrone play Castlederg, Malachy should give them a shout.

Levels in football are dictated by time and space, basically those who can operate with less time and space are better equipped to perform at the highest level, in junior football you have considerably more time and space on the ball than you do in intermediate, and more again than in senior, whereas there are players who are capable of playing county football who are currently playing junior football, the truth is they are few and far between.
It definitely isn't an ideal preparation for county football, and it's not possible to say players who are playing well in junior football would perform at county level...as it's a completely different ball game.

About 15 years ago I looked at the 2008 Tyrone and Kerry Panels and Tyrone had 80% Senior and 20% intermediate split while Kerry had a 50% senior, 30% Intermediate and 20% Junior split. The rider of course is due to the Kerry system 100% of the players would play in the Senior county championship. Given Kerry's success I have always wondered why similiar size counties would not try to mirror their structure.

[thebigfullforward]

County player will not be joining a junior team next year

Hate this agenda that a junior club player can't play county. If he is good enough, he should be given his chance.

Plenty of men in junior at the minute who would show up some of the county lads...

Its not an agenda its an old rule that would be flipped the second that it would be in the way.

Name 3 players in junior football that would be near a Tyrone squad ill wait...

Shea Gates - Killyman
O'Neill brothers - Plumbridge
Bogue - Clogher
Niall Gavin - Derrytresk
Conor McDaid - Urney

Next time Tyrone play Castlederg, Malachy should give them a shout.

Levels in football are dictated by time and space, basically those who can operate with less time and space are better equipped to perform at the highest level, in junior football you have considerably more time and space on the ball than you do in intermediate, and more again than in senior, whereas there are players who are capable of playing county football who are currently playing junior football, the truth is they are few and far between.
It definitely isn't an ideal preparation for county football, and it's not possible to say players who are playing well in junior football would perform at county level...as it's a completely different ball game.

About 15 years ago I looked at the 2008 Tyrone and Kerry Panels and Tyrone had 80% Senior and 20% intermediate split while Kerry had a 50% senior, 30% Intermediate and 20% Junior split. The rider of course is due to the Kerry system 100% of the players would play in the Senior county championship. Given Kerry's success I have always wondered why similiar size counties would not try to mirror their structure.

So in Kerrys system they have a championship for regional teams against the seniors and then a junior and intermediate championship? Would be hard to find space in the calendar for that would there not?

[Grace Murphy]

Ricey be the first manager sacked twice in one week. 
What about kileeshil starting shit they couldn't finish in the Rock.
Heard trillick told carrickmore they will attend their Hyrox after a breezy 2 points.
Heard Jayo was in Leo's of the plum signing autographs as fr rocks saviour mucker.

[Tyrone Gaa]

Hearing Stewartstown have released Audi Kelly from the managerial hot seat. They didn't get much of a "new manager bounce" last night.

An internal arrangement now. Preparation for junior or hope of saving intermediate status?

[Easttyrone23]

With Aghayarn looking like they will be in a relegation battle in intermediate this year it backs up the question that there's a genuine struggle with GAA clubs in north Tyrone in general.

When you have a look through the league tables throughout underage and senior football its clear to see. Is the reason down to a declining population in those areas or is it that other sports would be more popular?

It seems to be the opposite at the other end of the county with many rural clubs in east/south/mid Tyrone able to field multiple teams at different age groups at underage and contending for grade 1 titles while also being strong at senior level.

[ClubScene13]

I see Teamtalkmag referring to Donaghmore v Galbally as a "blockbuster" clash and "one of the biggest rivalries in Tyrone GAA"

I checked the roll of honour now I don't know what to think of this assertion

[RedHand88]

I see Teamtalkmag referring to Donaghmore v Galbally as a "blockbuster" clash and "one of the biggest rivalries in Tyrone GAA"

I checked the roll of honour now I don't know what to think of this assertion

Don't need to have a string of titles for it to be a rivalry.
2 teams in the same parish near the top end of Tyrone club football. Not many cases like that.

[Truthsayer]

another video nasty killeeshil and rock this time mostly supporters by the looks of it

Seen it. Not too nasty. Bit of a schemozzle. Been going on since the great Association was founded. It's who we are...