Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[TwoUpTwoDown]

Cookstown will romp to the Intermediate B Double then intermediate double next year with all the players Jayo is blooding. Man's a genius and fair play to him - inside man not taking a penny and might even plaster a few walls in the down time unlike Clogher paying a ransom to a couple of men who jumped ship on Gortin.

Up the Rocks Mucker.

If Urney reserves can beat them in the championship, maybe the Junior Championship isn't such a sure thing?

[ManFromMoygashel]

There aren't many that live in Omagh St Enda's catchment any more. Omagh was always a big soccer town which coexisted with lads playing GAA on Sundays.

The Dromore Road side has been gobbled up by Drumragh.
The East of Omagh suburban side of the town has been gobbled up by Killyclogher who, when they were set up, were a village club  on the edge of town.

I've officially lived long enough to see Omagh complain that peripheral clubs are taking from their talent pool. Unbelievable

[giveherlong]

Can anyone educate me on the massive drop off with St Endas this year? League form seems abysmal.

Would say it's a mix of players missing at various stages and only 1 player doing the majority of the scoring by the looks of it. Not sure what the youth is like either

Has Myler played this year?
No Callum Daly or myler played v Lough at weekend

[thebigfullforward]

Can anyone educate me on the massive drop off with St Endas this year? League form seems abysmal.

Would say it's a mix of players missing at various stages and only 1 player doing the majority of the scoring by the looks of it. Not sure what the youth is like either

Has Myler played this year?
No Callum Daly or myler played v Lough at weekend

Don't think either have played for them this year to my knowledge. Has Oisin Miller played this year for them? Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere

[PastThePost]

Omagh look to be in free fall, they have had multiple representatives on county senior panels, as well as U20 & U17 county panels over the last number of years, I believe they had 4 on the U20 panel a couple of years ago, which you would have thought pointed to a bright future, they also had a very decent minor side in 2020/2021 who contested the Grade 1 final, so I don't think the near neighbours are taking ALL of their players as has been suggested...
Omagh would always have rated themselves, possibly overrated themselves over the years, but that aside, they have a history of sorts, having 8 club senior championship titles and thought of as a team you would like to avoid in the championship draw, unfortunately for them over the last couple of years that is not the case, the only points Omagh have secured this year has been against Gortin and Derrylaughan, they have lost 5 in a row, with a total of 2 wins and 6 losses.
Massive game on Friday night v Dromore who have already made changes in their management team.

[NotedObserver]

Can anyone educate me on the massive drop off with St Endas this year? League form seems abysmal.

Would say it's a mix of players missing at various stages and only 1 player doing the majority of the scoring by the looks of it. Not sure what the youth is like either

Has Myler played this year?
No Callum Daly or myler played v Lough at weekend

Don't think either have played for them this year to my knowledge. Has Oisin Miller played this year for them? Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere

Miller mentioned on ttm podcast as playing well earlier this year but not sure about recently

[tyroneStatto]

Omagh look to be in free fall, they have had multiple representatives on county senior panels, as well as U20 & U17 county panels over the last number of years, I believe they had 4 on the U20 panel a couple of years ago, which you would have thought pointed to a bright future, they also had a very decent minor side in 2020/2021 who contested the Grade 1 final, so I don't think the near neighbours are taking ALL of their players as has been suggested...
Omagh would always have rated themselves, possibly overrated themselves over the years, but that aside, they have a history of sorts, having 8 club senior championship titles and thought of as a team you would like to avoid in the championship draw, unfortunately for them over the last couple of years that is not the case, the only points Omagh have secured this year has been against Gortin and Derrylaughan, they have lost 5 in a row, with a total of 2 wins and 6 losses.
Massive game on Friday night v Dromore who have already made changes in their management team.

Omagh probably have more Grade 1 youth titles overall than any other Tyrone club (not much between them and Dungannon), and they were especially cleaning up in the 2006-2010 period but the youth titles have significantly dropped off for them since 2010. Whatever players still involved from that youth era will be on the wrong side of 30 now.

[PastThePost]

Omagh look to be in free fall, they have had multiple representatives on county senior panels, as well as U20 & U17 county panels over the last number of years, I believe they had 4 on the U20 panel a couple of years ago, which you would have thought pointed to a bright future, they also had a very decent minor side in 2020/2021 who contested the Grade 1 final, so I don't think the near neighbours are taking ALL of their players as has been suggested...
Omagh would always have rated themselves, possibly overrated themselves over the years, but that aside, they have a history of sorts, having 8 club senior championship titles and thought of as a team you would like to avoid in the championship draw, unfortunately for them over the last couple of years that is not the case, the only points Omagh have secured this year has been against Gortin and Derrylaughan, they have lost 5 in a row, with a total of 2 wins and 6 losses.
Massive game on Friday night v Dromore who have already made changes in their management team.

Omagh probably have more Grade 1 youth titles overall than any other Tyrone club (not much between them and Dungannon), and they were especially cleaning up in the 2006-2010 period but the youth titles have significantly dropped off for them since 2010. Whatever players still involved from that youth era will be on the wrong side of 30 now.

As I said, Omagh had 4 representatives on the U20 Tyrone panel a couple of years ago, they would be 22 at most now, they also had a minor team who competed in a Grade 1 final in 2020/21, those lads would be 23 at most now, they have had 2/3 players on the Tyrone senior panel over the last 2-3 years...a lot of clubs would be very glad of having those players at their disposal, for whatever reason the results aren't there.

[tiempo]

Last years last gasp defeat to Killyclogher still lingers perhaps, they'd be hopeful of passage to the second round of the championship which is a completely different season to league, with everyone back they might have a kick in them, many of the mainstays of the 2 recent O'Neill cup wins will be finishing up the next few years, bit of a Coalisland-Clonoe type issue if the next crop aren't as driven

[ClubScene13]

Youth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

[Truthsayer]

Derrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

[DaleCooper]

Youth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Derrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Ouroborous

[Truthsayer]

Youth titles not the be all and end all. Ardboe and Cookstown are there or thereabouts every age group every year in Grade 1 and where does it get them.

Derrylaughan advertising for a Club Coaching & Development Officer... £27,000 a year if anyone interested in applying.

By what metric does a club decide its worth paying some guy 27k a year, if not titles?

Oroborous

Had to look that up. Very good.. and appropriate

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

A much better use of funds than paying a long line of senior managers to take scrap IMO. That's not directed at Derrylaughan in particular btw but the amount of clubs who are throwing money at men to take teams who are going nowhere is ridiculous, especially when they are doing nothing at juvenile.

I imagine a big part of this role would be to improve numbers & standard of juvenile football so that in 10 years time they might have a team at senior that somebody could do something with. That might not mean that Derrylaughan are winning a pile of underage titles btw.

They amalgamate at underage? Being able to field teams by themselves would be a good starting point I think.

[BigGreenField]

A much better use of funds than paying a long line of senior managers to take scrap IMO. That's not directed at Derrylaughan in particular btw but the amount of clubs who are throwing money at men to take teams who are going nowhere is ridiculous, especially when they are doing nothing at juvenile.

I imagine a big part of this role would be to improve numbers & standard of juvenile football so that in 10 years time they might have a team at senior that somebody could do something with. That might not mean that Derrylaughan are winning a pile of underage titles btw.

They amalgamate at underage? Being able to field teams by themselves would be a good starting point I think.

Yup, Dublins talent didn't pick it up off the ground

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/a-county-chairman-bertie-ahern-and-a-grand-plan-the-inside-story-of-how-gaelic-football-changed-forever/38450469.html

Build numbers, build culture, retention, cream will rise. Rinse and repeat.