Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[thebigfullforward]

Seen a few county players talk about how the new rules require more fitness. How will club players handle it if the schedule is like last season where teams are playing 2 games in the space of about 4 days? You'd need a big panel to cope with it

Not buying this

GK, no change
2-3-4 / 13-14-15 no more box to box
5-6-7 / 10-11-12 no change
MF no change

Learn to kick, let the ball do the work

What do you mean you don't buy it lol? Players were saying it after the railway cup and Jim McGuinness said it after the Dublin game. "They lost three players to hamstrings. Peadar Mogan is one of our fittest players but he was really struggling in the last 15 minutes" "These lads are so finely tuned now that the tears are more aggressive, they're deeper because the players are much more explosive. And you're now looking at a month or six weeks for the likes of hamstrings when it used to be a week or 10 days." Is he just making that up then or what?

[tiempo]

Players had no lead into the Railway Cup or league, it's winter football on heavy pitches after a layoff, the teams are doing all sorts of pre season loading whilst fulfilling fixtures, of course you're going to be blowing and pick up injuries

The whole hamstring 10 day to 6 week thing is a complete red herring, he wants a 6th sub, his way of lobbying for it is to throw out a bit of convenient misinformation

[marty34]

Players had no lead into the Railway Cup or league, it's winter football on heavy pitches after a layoff, the teams are doing all sorts of pre season loading whilst fulfilling fixtures, of course you're going to be blowing and pick up injuries

The whole hamstring 10 day to 6 week thing is a complete red herring, he wants a 6th sub, his way of lobbying for it is to throw out a bit of convenient misinformation

I agree 100%.  Mc Guinness wants another sub. That's what his angle is.

[Mikhailov]

Players had no lead into the Railway Cup or league, it's winter football on heavy pitches after a layoff, the teams are doing all sorts of pre season loading whilst fulfilling fixtures, of course you're going to be blowing and pick up injuries

The whole hamstring 10 day to 6 week thing is a complete red herring, he wants a 6th sub, his way of lobbying for it is to throw out a bit of convenient misinformation

I agree 100%.  Mc Guinness wants another sub. That's what his angle is.

Any man with any sense can see the logic of the 6th sub. It is early season, little or no preparation (6 weeks is not long enough) for an intense NFl season followed by championship.
McGuinness and Dessie are not the only managers/players calling for it but they are high profile so quote them.
As it stands at the minute, clubs get a longer pre season than county teams!!

[tiempo]

Talking to an ex AFL pro years ago said the game went soft when they allowed unlimited (up to 75) interchange subs in a game, gone were the days of blowing hard, playing with a knock and having to keep playing hard making decisions etc. McGuinness wants subs for the sake of it, was it Dessie or Jim who made a tactical sub in the first half, then cries for more subs. Just get on with the game

[TheWaterBoy]

All not well in Gortin. Full Committee stepped away!

They terminated the link with Glenelly against previous agreements between the two clubs. Didn't sit well with a lot within Gortin.

From what I hear it's the opposite. A group of parents totally against the link with glenelly and have forced the committee out because of it

they want their children to play for gortin only

Where they playing for Glenelly sides at underage level?

Gortin & Glenelly combined are Both Domhnaigh
none of those teams are in the latest minor gradings but the gradings appear strange - a lot of teams in Grade 2 and only 3 teams in Grade 4.

Mondays crisis meeting was a low point for our club. Some low blow comments made on the night. In the end up Thatcher Keenan and the rest of the committee walked. I hope more KC / Omagh lads join us to allow us to field on our own going forward.

[Onthe40]

very short sighted, if all of a sudden there's a decent group at one age and parents want to go on their own..the baloney amalgamation appears on the outset to have been a roaring success, with both senior teams benefitting..glenelly not be far away soon from promotion
I know the likes of Doiri Oga met with Badoney to get an understanding of how there's worked
Doiri Oga seems to be going well too, though Im sure it will have its challenges also

could a second team not be entered at certain age groups if numbers are bigger than usual?

Gortin needs to ask themselves what's better
amalgamated team at g1 or g2 bringing through good seniors or scraping team in g3-4 fulfilling fixtures

unless they can point to a future path of sufficient numbers to field consistently & competively on their own and a conveyor belt of players capable of keeping Gortin in senior football then its hard to know if there's justification to split

[03,05,08]

very short sighted, if all of a sudden there's a decent group at one age and parents want to go on their own..the baloney amalgamation appears on the outset to have been a roaring success, with both senior teams benefitting..glenelly not be far away soon from promotion
I know the likes of Doiri Oga met with Badoney to get an understanding of how there's worked
Doiri Oga seems to be going well too, though Im sure it will have its challenges also

could a second team not be entered at certain age groups if numbers are bigger than usual?

Gortin needs to ask themselves what's better
amalgamated team at g1 or g2 bringing through good seniors or scraping team in g3-4 fulfilling fixtures

unless they can point to a future path of sufficient numbers to field consistently & competively on their own and a conveyor belt of players capable of keeping Gortin in senior football then its hard to know if there's justification to split




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very short sighted, if all of a sudden there's a decent group at one age and parents want to go on their own..the baloney amalgamation appears on the outset to have been a roaring success, with both senior teams benefitting..glenelly not be far away soon from promotion
I know the likes of Doiri Oga met with Badoney to get an understanding of how there's worked
Doiri Oga seems to be going well too, though Im sure it will have its challenges also

could a second team not be entered at certain age groups if numbers are bigger than usual?

Gortin needs to ask themselves what's better
amalgamated team at g1 or g2 bringing through good seniors or scraping team in g3-4 fulfilling fixtures

unless they can point to a future path of sufficient numbers to field consistently & competively on their own and a conveyor belt of players capable of keeping Gortin in senior football then its hard to know if there's justification to split

Would they not be better off ,if they have the numbers, of going out on their own and playing 13 lads from the place and developing more players who will actually play for their senior team?

[bogball88]

very short sighted, if all of a sudden there's a decent group at one age and parents want to go on their own..the baloney amalgamation appears on the outset to have been a roaring success, with both senior teams benefitting..glenelly not be far away soon from promotion
I know the likes of Doiri Oga met with Badoney to get an understanding of how there's worked
Doiri Oga seems to be going well too, though Im sure it will have its challenges also

could a second team not be entered at certain age groups if numbers are bigger than usual?

Gortin needs to ask themselves what's better
amalgamated team at g1 or g2 bringing through good seniors or scraping team in g3-4 fulfilling fixtures

unless they can point to a future path of sufficient numbers to field consistently & competively on their own and a conveyor belt of players capable of keeping Gortin in senior football then its hard to know if there's justification to split

Would a simple interrogation of primary school enrolment data in the area provide such an indication of likely future trends re numbers?

[tyroneStatto]

Why did Owenkillew (Gortin/Greencastle) split in the 1980's. is history repeating itself?

[bogball88]

Why did Owenkillew (Gortin/Greencastle) split in the 1980's. is history repeating itself?

I had always assumed that Greencastle formed on their own in the late 60's from what was previously Mountfield?

[tyroneStatto]

Why did Owenkillew (Gortin/Greencastle) split in the 1980's. is history repeating itself?

I had always assumed that Greencastle formed on their own in the late 60's from what was previously Mountfield?

at some point after that they joined with Gortin at youth level. Owenkillew actually won the County Minor League in 1983 beating Dungannon in the final.

[HalfBack7]

All not well in Gortin. Full Committee stepped away!

They terminated the link with Glenelly against previous agreements between the two clubs. Didn't sit well with a lot within Gortin.

From what I hear it's the opposite. A group of parents totally against the link with glenelly and have forced the committee out because of it

they want their children to play for gortin only

Where they playing for Glenelly sides at underage level?

Gortin & Glenelly combined are Both Domhnaigh
none of those teams are in the latest minor gradings but the gradings appear strange - a lot of teams in Grade 2 and only 3 teams in Grade 4.

Mondays crisis meeting was a low point for our club. Some low blow comments made on the night. In the end up Thatcher Keenan and the rest of the committee walked. I hope more KC / Omagh lads join us to allow us to field on our own going forward.

A club who got promoted to Senior Football for the first time since the early 00's should be riding the crest of the wave and seeing where the momentum will take them. Sad to see it working out this way.
Any word on who has taken up positions on the new committee? A lot of long standing club people who done a lot of work are now gone presumably.
Is the amalgamation with Glenelly now completely done away with?

[Talbotstephen]

Conleith Donnelly over glenelly this year now along with des Tracey. Hearing Conleith got the road from st Peter's lurgan after 6 weeks, was looking money for men lifting cones and collecting balls at training

[Talbotstephen]

All not well in Gortin. Full Committee stepped away!

They terminated the link with Glenelly against previous agreements between the two clubs. Didn't sit well with a lot within Gortin.

From what I hear it's the opposite. A group of parents totally against the link with glenelly and have forced the committee out because of it

they want their children to play for gortin only

Where they playing for Glenelly sides at underage level?

Gortin & Glenelly combined are Both Domhnaigh
none of those teams are in the latest minor gradings but the gradings appear strange - a lot of teams in Grade 2 and only 3 teams in Grade 4.

Mondays crisis meeting was a low point for our club. Some low blow comments made on the night. In the end up Thatcher Keenan and the rest of the committee walked. I hope more KC / Omagh lads join us to allow us to field on our own going forward.

How could a club ever survive after inviting prince charles to their pitch and making him tea and all. Disgraceful club.