Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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Quote from: Tyrone95 on June 13, 2022, 01:56:35 PM
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Some interesting results tonight:
Greencastle return to Senior going well with big win over Moortown (Think they celebrated too long after beating Ardboe... was a mini champo session I believe)
Owen Roes go to Pomeroy and turn them over

Also on another note what is up with 2 senior teams not being able to field a reserve team so early in the year???

Moy and derrylaughan notorious for not fielding reserves. The thinking round our club was moy we're at home so they would field reserves, unfortunately not the case. Disappointing as 20+ lads left with no football

You only have to look at the early league table to see these clubs are struggling. Obviously no strength and depth in the clubs. Derrylaughan have 4 reserve league points moy look to have took a few hammerings, probably didn't fancy another from Carrickmore.

Perhaps a reserve league independent from senior status would help. I dunno throwing it out there. Although if you don't have players where will that pull them out from.
Tyrone leagues have been crying out for years for reserve and senior to be split. Reserve league should be played separate with proper relegation and division, atleast to level the playing field. Senior Friday evenings, reserve Saturdays.
I agree. Certainly worth trialling for a year or two anyway, particulrly now with the split season

How sustainable would that be? Everyone would love if reserve football was slightly more competitive and had its own promotion and relegation but there are many key factors which would stop this.  It would mean that fringe players are out on a Friday evening on a senior bench, out again on a saturday for a reserve game and more than likely expected to be out again on a sunday morning/evening for club training to make a training worthwhile.

Clubs which also have only around 30/35 players (between both panels) are more than likely going to throw the reserve game on a saturday if they pick up a few senior injuries.

I would love to see some sort of modification to the current system but I don't think splitting the games / days is something which is practical.



The reserve leagues are a difficult one. Some clubs just don't have the numbers to be competitive on both senior and reserve fronts especially with the contrast in the size of clubs in Div. 1 where there's some clubs fielding thirds teams every week. Sending a reserve team out to ship a tanking week after week serves no purpose for either team. The winning team doesn't learn much about themselves and it destroys morale for the losing team.

Its a fairly viscous cycle were a team needs to be competitive to encourage guys out but you need those numbers in the first place to be competitive.

Walter White

Donaghmore and the Clarkes played out a thriller tonight due to a postponed fixture. The crowd in Donaghmore made it feel like a championship fixture, with spectators from all over the county.

Surely the county board would look at that and think that they need to pick certain fixtures for stand alone events i.e. one senior fixture on a Sunday to allow for that increased crowd and championship feel e.g. Errigal v Carmen, Trillick v Dromore, Ardboe v Moortown, Fianna v Clonoe are just some examples.

Would work at all levels too. Edendork v Galbally showed on Thursday that staggered games lead to a greater occasion and atmosphere. The odd game on a Thursday/Sunday/Monday would shake up the players schedule but for the hosting clubs and the players, surely it merits some thought.

Mikhailov

Quote from: Walter White on June 13, 2022, 11:17:59 PM
Donaghmore and the Clarkes played out a thriller tonight due to a postponed fixture. The crowd in Donaghmore made it feel like a championship fixture, with spectators from all over the county.

Surely the county board would look at that and think that they need to pick certain fixtures for stand alone events i.e. one senior fixture on a Sunday to allow for that increased crowd and championship feel e.g. Errigal v Carmen, Trillick v Dromore, Ardboe v Moortown, Fianna v Clonoe are just some examples.

Would work at all levels too. Edendork v Galbally showed on Thursday that staggered games lead to a greater occasion and atmosphere. The odd game on a Thursday/Sunday/Monday would shake up the players schedule but for the hosting clubs and the players, surely it merits some thought.

I also think this a great idea, also acts as a great gate for the home club and they can all benefit from that after a difficult 2 years with a restricted playing program. There would be some great games with brilliant atmospheres if the CCC allowed it to happen. As previous poster alluded to, a Thursday, Sunday & Monday fixture each week could work in each division with each division getting 1 stand alone fixture on one of those 3 nights each week.
Wasn't at this game tonight but can imagine the crowd would lend to a good game, Donaghmore was always a good place to watch a match in years gone by.
Anyone stand out on either side tonight although I am aware both clubs short players especially the Clarke's who were down quite a few starters.....good win all the same for Donaghmore.

Under Lights

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There was a massive crowd also at the Galbally and Edendork game which was played on a Thursday night.

Whilst what the posters said above would be great it's not something the county board could do.
Could you imagine if they hand picked certain games to be played on non ACL nights in order to attract crowds, how would the other clubs that are never picked to play react, what about the travelling team oh great we get to travel on a Monday night to swell the coffers of XXX.



Mikhailov

Quote from: Under Lights on June 14, 2022, 06:05:40 AM
There was a massive crowd also at the Galbally and Edendork game which was played on a Thursday night.

Whilst what the posters said above would be great it's not something the county board could do.
Could you imagine if they hand picked certain games to be played on non ACL nights in order to attract crowds, how would the other clubs that are never picked to play react, what about the travelling team oh great we get to travel on a Monday night to swell the coffers of XXX.

The best way to sort this is that every team is involved twice per season. You get 1 home fixture snd also must play 1 away fixture. Local derbies are the attraction or at least close rivalries. The distance involved for the 2 teams must be minimal if possible

square_ball

I'd agree with above posters with those ideas. Coalisland-Errigal is this Thursday evening I'd imagine there will be a huge crowd in annagher to see that one.

Onthe40

I see the youth fixtures committee have decided to start the u15 league on 16th July, probably the biggest holiday week of the year.. ridiculous decision.. will be a few games conceded early on id imagine especially for the smaller clubs and it being peak holiday season

tyroneStatto

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 14, 2022, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2022, 10:47:05 AM
I see the youth fixtures committee have decided to start the u15 league on 16th July, probably the biggest holiday week of the year.. ridiculous decision.. will be a few games conceded early on id imagine especially for the smaller clubs and it being peak holiday season

Strange start date all right. I see that except for Grade 3, all the grades are being played as a single section, single round-robin. Some sort of experiment?

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Grade 1 (11)
Ardboe
Cappagh/Killyclogher
Carrickmore
Cookstown
Donaghmore
Eglish
Errigal Ciaran
Fintona
Loughmacrory
Omagh
Trillick

Grade 2 (11)
Beragh
Bodoney
Clonoe
Coalisland
Dromore
Dungannon
Galbally
Greencastle
Kildress
Moy
Rock

Grade 3 (Total - 17)

Section A (9)
Aghaloo
Derrylaughan
Derrytresk
Edendork
Naomh Brid
Killeeshil
Moortown
Pomeroy
Stewartstown

Section B (8 )
Castlederg
Drumquin
Drumragh
Eskra
Naomh Eoghan
Owen Roes
Strabane
Urney

Grade 4 (11)
Aghyaran
Augher
Brackaville
Carrickmore II
Clogher
Cookstown II
Donaghmore II
Dromore II
Dungannon II
Errigal Ciaran II
T***yreagh

Pomeroy will hammer everybody in Grade 3, they should really be Grade 2.

Onthe40

Yep, didn't they absolutely walk the G2 u15 Feile..

seeing many examples of this across the ages this year.. Edendork in G3 u13..NBrid in G4 13..

have to bring in some rule here, whether its league form contributes to championship grade or whatever..

U15 comp should be pushed back to August/September.. stupid starting it 12th week

trailer

Quote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
Yep, didn't they absolutely walk the G2 u15 Feile..

seeing many examples of this across the ages this year.. Edendork in G3 u13..NBrid in G4 13..

have to bring in some rule here, whether its league form contributes to championship grade or whatever..

U15 comp should be pushed back to August/September.. stupid starting it 12th week

Totally agree some of the gradings are awful. Teams dishing out hammerings and walking a grade. NBrid in G4 was scandalous. They could easily complete at G2 and quite poss G1


tyroneStatto

Quote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
Yep, didn't they absolutely walk the G2 u15 Feile..

seeing many examples of this across the ages this year.. Edendork in G3 u13..NBrid in G4 13..

have to bring in some rule here, whether its league form contributes to championship grade or whatever..

U15 comp should be pushed back to August/September.. stupid starting it 12th week

They hammered Eskra in the semi and then us in the final. There was only a point between us and Strabane in our semi.

Under Lights


inroundthesquare

Are Meyler and McKernan still eligible for Championship in September?

Under Lights

Quote from: inroundthesquare on June 14, 2022, 05:59:31 PM
Are Meyler and McKernan still eligible for Championship in September?

Yeah, is Mckernan away too I thought he was just away on holiday

Gaafan2

Quote from: clarshack on June 14, 2022, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on June 14, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
Yep, didn't they absolutely walk the G2 u15 Feile..

seeing many examples of this across the ages this year.. Edendork in G3 u13..NBrid in G4 13..

have to bring in some rule here, whether its league form contributes to championship grade or whatever..

U15 comp should be pushed back to August/September.. stupid starting it 12th week

They hammered Eskra in the semi and then us in the final. There was only a point between us and Strabane in our semi.

Yes definitely too strong for grade 3. The powers that be within our club can't see past winning grade 3 titles. This past few years all our youth teams have been operating at grade 3 when if truth be told must of the teams would compete in grade 2.