Cadbury's All-Ireland Under 21 FC 2009

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johnpower

#210
May 04, 2009, 10:45:42 PM
Great match today ,a cruel way to lose .Cork dominated for long periods but could not pull away .The Tyrone teams of 2000 and 2001 are the last u21 team to really make an impact at senior level .

In the Onion Bag

#211
May 04, 2009, 11:12:16 PM Last Edit: May 04, 2009, 11:14:00 PM by In the Onion Bag
Me heart bleeds for Down and the cruel way they let this title go but in truth I would say that over the 60mins Cork played the better.
The way the Down lads beavered away against a bigger stronger side to create what should have been a winning position speaks loads for their character and raises great hope for future Down senior development.
Nonetheless, fair play to the Cork lads.  Conceding a goal that puts you two pts down going into overtime would kill off many but these lads never give up. The type of spirit even the most disappointed Down man will tip his cap to.

DownFanatic

#212
May 05, 2009, 01:04:47 PM
There is a lot of talk that a sizeable majority of these U-21 players will filter through to the Seniors in the coming years. I wouldnt be so sure.
Fitzpatrick, Magee, McComiskey, Maginn, O'Reilly and Murney have all tasted Senior action. Out of these six players I can only really see Fitzpatrick, McComiskey and Maginn nailing down starting bearths in the years to come.
Outside of those six, there are players with plenty of potential but I just cant see many of them making a big impact on the Senior squad in the near future.

Mourne Rover

#213
May 05, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
DownFanatic is right to point out that the odds are against u21 players making the step up, as only two of the starting 15 from the 2005 AI u21 final (Rogers and Carr) are in the present senior squad. However, I think that considerably more than three of yesterday's team have a big chance of coming through eventually.

While McComiskey and Peter Fitzpatrick are almost certaintiies, I am not sure about Maginn, purely in terms of size for a position like CHF, although he has the ability. Hanna is not huge, but he is still reasonably well built and has a fantastic engine. He also has leadership qualities and can take a score, and must get a run either this year or next.

Michael Magee is still raw, and took too many wrong options yesterday, but he is as strong as a bull and has a great left foot. John Fitzpatrick is another possibility, as he is already a decent player and, as he is already in the UCD Sigerson team, will probably improve further.

Paul Devlin is an outstanding prospect, and Conor Poland is not far behind him, although they both have another two years at u21 level. Jamie O'Reilly took a heavy knock early on yesterday, and did not really feature afterwards, but his display against Mayo showed his potential as well.

It all depends how they cope with yesterday's setback, and we have seen a range of other false dawns over recent years, but we clearly have something to build on over the next few seasons.

gaa_phil

#214
May 05, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Did anyone see the Captain of the cork side giving the fingers to someone in the crowd yesterday when he was about to be presented with the cup? It was the funniest thing I ever saw happening at an all-ireland final...awh the joys of sky plus  :D  ;D Exciting second half which Down largely dominated but it was the first half performance of Cork which saw them through to glory undoubtedly! Down never seem to have luck when it comes to the all-ireland final of the u-21's...they were beaten by a couple of points by Galway round the turn of the millenium...extra points go to those who remember the score that day!!?? 8) Will it be another case of Down losing these young hopefuls in the future or, will they be able to carry them through to senior football? The past would suggest the latter!

Our Nail Loney

#215
May 05, 2009, 05:12:55 PM
Quote from: gaa_phil on May 05, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Did anyone see the Captain of the cork side giving the fingers to someone in the crowd yesterday when he was about to be presented with the cup? It was the funniest thing I ever saw happening at an all-ireland final...awh the joys of sky plus  :D  ;D Exciting second half which Down largely dominated but it was the first half performance of Cork which saw them through to glory undoubtedly! Down never seem to have luck when it comes to the all-ireland final of the u-21's...they were beaten by a couple of points by Galway round the turn of the millenium...extra points go to those who remember the score that day!!?? 8) Will it be another case of Down losing these young hopefuls in the future or, will they be able to carry them through to senior football? The past would suggest the latter!

5-04 to 4-05 or something that day?

Nope thats wrong cuz I think both Meehan and Armstrong got hat tricks that day, off my two mates and they havent been the same since!

GalwayBayBoy

#216
May 05, 2009, 05:24:24 PM
It was Galway 6-5 Down 4-6. A hat trick each alright.

Our Nail Loney

#217
May 05, 2009, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 05, 2009, 05:24:24 PM
It was Galway 6-5 Down 4-6. A hat trick each alright.

Was some match alright...

western exile

#218
May 05, 2009, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 05, 2009, 05:24:24 PM
It was Galway 6-5 Down 4-6. A hat trick each alright.

was it not more symmetrical than that  ;)  Galway 6-4 Down 4-6

Pangurban

#219
May 05, 2009, 06:58:42 PM
A cruel way to lose, a bit of naiviety in defence, should have conceded foul  and give them a point at that stage. Fair play to Cork, good value for their win. Two excellent competitive teams, a credit too both their counties. Hopefully the Down lads will have better days to look forward too.

downman

#220
May 05, 2009, 07:55:10 PM
think western exile gets the points here.

6-4 to 4-6 if i remember correctly

GalwayBayBoy

#221
May 05, 2009, 08:06:10 PM

Onlooker

#222
May 05, 2009, 11:13:07 PM
For a Tipperary person watching that game it was like a re-run of a horror movie.  Tipp lead Cork by 2 points with over a minute of injury time played and Cork scored a goal to win by a point.   I never felt as bad after a game as I did after that Munster Final and I know how the Down players and supporters feel as we all felt the same in Tipperary a few weeks ago.  Who ever said that lightening never strikes twice. Take nothing from Cork who fought to the bitter end in both games, but I reckon that they must have used up about 10 years' luck to win this title.  They hammered Kerry in the 1st Round in Munster then should have been beaten by Tipp, Dublin and Down.  This football that we all follow is a crazy game at times.  Anyway best wishes to Down in the Ulster Championship.  Tipp had 2 very enjoyable games with Down in the League this year and it would be great if we were to meet again at some stage in this year's Championship.

imtommygunn

#223
May 05, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
To be fair they were a right bit better than dublin and shouldn't have been beaten in that game at all.

However Tipp obviously must have a good team too. I thought seeing Connacht Mayo would be the best team in it but funny how games at this age pans out.

Jinxy

#224
May 06, 2009, 01:11:11 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 05, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
To be fair they were a right bit better than dublin and shouldn't have been beaten in that game at all.

However Tipp obviously must have a good team too. I thought seeing Connacht Mayo would be the best team in it but funny how games at this age pans out.

I respectfully disagree.
Dublins wayward kicking is the only reason Cork made the final.
If you were any use you'd be playing.
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