Soccer Pitch ploughed up on GAA instructions

[INDIANA]

Their name is on the deed DF , if that goes to a court of law thats all they will look at. How can you question their right to the land when it clearly states on the document it is the property of Milltown/Castlemaine. The soccer club is known locally as something else. 5mins in court is all it would last. The defence could bring up any number of precedents to that effect.

You know you don't know that.

This is pointless. The same suspects would defend the GAA blindly if they were rounding up Jews and sending them to camps.

I would suggest you visit the relevent information before you start calling me a liar.

[dublinfella]

I would suggest you visit the relevent information before you start calling me a liar.

Its not me calling people a liar. Thats Magpie Seanies party piece.

Nowhere does it say that the club holds the deeds. So I think its you who needs to back up your assertation.

[INDIANA]

Freely available information DF. If you're that interested in it you'll look for it. But i would suggest you do visit the relevent information before you start calling people liars.

[dublinfella]

Freely available information DF. If you're that interested in it you'll look for it. But i would suggest you do visit the relevent information before you start calling people liars.

I haven't called anyone a liar ever on this forum.

What I am saying is that you know full well you don't know whether what you are posting is true, know it, and are picking on a semantic argument to avoid the topic in hand.

Thankfully this forum is not representitive of the broader GAA who nearly to a man think the behaviour in Kerry is a disgrace

[ardmhachaabu]

Freely available information DF. If you're that interested in it you'll look for it. But i would suggest you do visit the relevent information before you start calling people liars.

I haven't called anyone a liar ever on this forum.

What I am saying is that you know full well you don't know whether what you are posting is true, know it, and are picking on a semantic argument to avoid the topic in hand.

Thankfully this forum is not representitive of the broader GAA who nearly to a man think the behaviour in Kerry is a disgrace

[/b]Umm, I beg to differ.  GAA people across the length and breadth of the country are behind Kerry CB.

[ziggysego]

Can someone list both points of the arguement? I know every little about it at the moment, only what is being spoke of here.

[INDIANA]

I am not speaking on semantic argument. you are putting out a version that is not true. The name of the GAA club is on the Trust deed of that piece of land- now you show me a piece of evidence thats tells us otherwise. You're simply splitting hairs. Nowhere on that document is the soccer clubs name on it.
Now everyone here owns a house- whose name is on the deed? Thats who owns it. it really is that simple. you're looking for all manner of semantic arguments to stir shit. The fact is the soccer club has no legal standing on that piece of ground. And if you speak to the relevent parties in Milltown they'll tell you that.
The moral issues are a complete side issue as to who owns it.

[dublinfella]

I am not speaking on semantic argument. you are putting out a version that is not true. The name of the GAA club is on the Trust deed of that piece of land- now you show me a piece of evidence thats tells us otherwise. You're simply splitting hairs. Nowhere on that document is the soccer clubs name on it.
Now everyone here owns a house- whose name is on the deed? Thats who owns it. it really is that simple. you're looking for all manner of semantic arguments to stir shit. The fact is the soccer club has no legal standing on that piece of ground. And if you speak to the relevent parties in Milltown they'll tell you that.
The moral issues are a complete side issue as to who owns it.

Christ on a honda. No-one is saying the soccer club are on the lease, how could they be?

What they are saying is that the GAA CENTRALLY took the land in trust on the basis that they would maintain it for the entire community and a three person committee was founded to do so. That committee have recently allowed the local GAA club subsume the land. The issue is as to whether they have that power and if Rule 44 is compatable with the agreement the GAA signed with the land commission in the 30's.

Nowhere is it claimed that C/M GAA club hold the lease on behalf of the committee on behalf of the GAA except by you.

You are deliberatly missing the point.

[behind the wire]

it is possible that the gaa havent handled this in the best way but the underlying theme seems to be the same as other incidents throughtout the country, i.e. soccer oficial/supporters freeloading.

I am behind the Kerry county board on this one, from a legal point of view it would appear they have a very strong case.

DF your defence of all things soccer on here is a bit of a joke. do the FAI pay you to come on here and put us boyos in our place?

[dublinfella]

Umm, I beg to differ.  GAA people across the length and breadth of the country are behind Kerry CB.

I have not met one GAA man (in Dublin at least) who supports the ploughing after dark. I work with a guy from north Kerry who is a firm GAA man and is disgusted - he said it was 'pure bull mccabe stuff' and a disgrace and that thats what the local vibe is. The press quoted a few GAA people who were quitting the club in protest.  

This board seems to attract a high amount of purists who generally are more extreme than the rank and file.

[dublinfella]

DF your defence of all things soccer on here is a bit of a joke. do the FAI pay you to come on here and put us boyos in our place?

I have not defended soccer once. I agree that they appear to be a shambles, but that does not excuse the darkness digging.

The GAA basically have blagged a community pitch for free and soccer are the freeloaders? Thats hilarious.

[WeAreBlueWeAreWhite]

behind the wire some of the defence of the gaa on here is also a joke.Granted this is a gaaboard but some are only defending the gaa for the sake of it on this issue

[behind the wire]

i would say that most are defending the gaa because it would appear that they are in the right on this issue.

the soccer clubs only argument seems to be 'Oh we used that field for a long time so we should be allowed to continue no matter who holds the legal title to the land.' As usual it appears that they done little or nothing to develop the land themselves.

As for soccer in general being associated with freeloading, well i dont see how anyone (not even you DF) can argue to the contrary. they seems to believe that the community has some sort of inherent obligation to provide facilities for soccer clubs. this goes on throughout the country.

[Croí na hÉireann]

Umm, I beg to differ.  GAA people across the length and breadth of the country are behind Kerry CB.

I have not met one GAA man (in Dublin at least) who supports the ploughing after dark. I work with a guy from north Kerry who is a firm GAA man and is disgusted - he said it was 'pure bull mccabe stuff' and a disgrace and that thats what the local vibe is. The press quoted a few GAA people who were quitting the club in protest. 

This board seems to attract a high amount of purists who generally are more extreme than the rank and file.

And what do these "GAA" men think of the soccer club putting a lock on the gates after they were refused leave to appeal???

[Canalman]

This is one Dublin GAA person who backs the local GAA club to the hilt.

Instead of whinging the soccer club in question should now fundraise and buy their own grounds and develop it. Surely not a problem for them now that they have "the support of the community".

Why oh why didn't they object to the Planning application when the notice went up on site?

Cuckoonesting at its crassest imo.