Armagh vs. Cork Sunday, April 12

[illdecide]

Sure just let him come and go as he pleases

[corn02]

Personally I think its a lot more out of order to mock somebody's addiction, especially when its somebody who has given as much to Armagh supporters as Oisin has over the years.

No point in going on about it though.

Yeah can see what you mean, but we all know Illdecude and that he is a big softy, I doubt he meant any harm, but probably best to keep those jokes off.

BTW meant to pull you up on this. You said McEvoy trying to punch the ball from behind the nets was cheating. Surely even if he punches through the net if the ball has not crossed the bar it is not a point?

Anyway, it is an advantage like trying to take an extra step forward in a free kick or taking five steps. Wouldn't label it as cheating.

I wonder will there be three keepers on the panel. TBH Rodgers has not done much wrong either.

[davo]

in my opinion having 3 keepers would be a waste of a player on the panel. 2 keepers is quite sufficient. Hearty and Mc Evoy will be the keepers.

I hear that the panel will be cut down to 30 within the next week or so. It will be interesting to see what the 30 will be. it would be hard for us to name our 30 as we do not have the opportunity to see all the players in training and in matches amongst themselves. I think the panel at the minute is pretty strong and if we get a bit of luck who knows what could happen.

[corn02]

Hearty and Mc Evoy will be the keepers.

You never know...

[Abble]

Sure just let him come and go as he pleases

you've misread me there i think.

when i'm saying about how some current county setups are run almost as if our footballers are expected to be professionals now that in turn can lead to some players not wanting to be part of it or have the hunger for it - either not having time (thru work commitments which is happening throughout the length and breadth of the country) / or just wanting to concentrate on other matters outside of the county football.

believe you me Peadar would want to be sticking the jersey on for his county as much as every other man on the panel but maybe he feels he doesnt have to run through walls 2 or 3 nights a week just to prove to someone he's committed to the cause.

[illdecide]

Sure just let him come and go as he pleases

you've misread me there i think.

when i'm saying about how some current county setups are run almost as if our footballers are expected to be professionals now that in turn can lead to some players not wanting to be part of it or have the hunger for it - either not having time (thru work commitments which is happening throughout the length and breadth of the country) / or just wanting to concentrate on other matters outside of the county football.

believe you me Peadar would want to be sticking the jersey on for his county as much as every other man on the panel but maybe he feels he doesnt have to run through walls 2 or 3 nights a week just to prove to someone he's committed to the cause.

I know what your saying and believe me every club has guys like that who are naturaly fit and are gifted footballers but unfortunatley in Peadar's case it's a team game and while he'd like to train when it suited him (your words, not Peader's) the rest of the panel who are busting their ass 3-4 nights a week would not stand for this attitute and it would cause grief in the squad..."All for one and one for all" and all that sh!t...Know what i'm saying...

[Abble]

Sure just let him come and go as he pleases

you've misread me there i think.

when i'm saying about how some current county setups are run almost as if our footballers are expected to be professionals now that in turn can lead to some players not wanting to be part of it or have the hunger for it - either not having time (thru work commitments which is happening throughout the length and breadth of the country) / or just wanting to concentrate on other matters outside of the county football.

believe you me Peadar would want to be sticking the jersey on for his county as much as every other man on the panel but maybe he feels he doesnt have to run through walls 2 or 3 nights a week just to prove to someone he's committed to the cause.

I know what your saying and believe me every club has guys like that who are naturaly fit and are gifted footballers but unfortunatley in Peadar's case it's a team game and while he'd like to train when it suited him (your words, not Peader's) the rest of the panel who are busting their ass 3-4 nights a week would not stand for this attitute and it would cause grief in the squad..."All for one and one for all" and all that sh!t...Know what i'm saying...

i dont think i said anywhere "peadar prefers to train whenever it suits him" ? maybe you know something i don't

in an ideal world where these boys didnt have to do a days work on top of their other sporting/family commitments then i'm sure there wouldnt be a problem, so just ease up on these boys. most of us can sit up with our cocoa in front of coronation street at the end of a days work and slabber away here all we like but at the end of the day thems the boys has to put the extra work in so i dont think anyone can fault them

[mackers]

You're right, of course, Abble, supporters have no right to demand that players put in the hours that they do. It's completely up to Peadar, as a supporter I'm disappointed as he had something to offer the team, but it's his own choice.
County teams are probably putting their players through a lot but I'd much rather players did what Peadar is doing than moan about "pay for play".

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Personally I think its a lot more out of order to mock somebody's addiction, especially when its somebody who has given as much to Armagh supporters as Oisin has over the years.

No point in going on about it though.

Yeah can see what you mean, but we all know Illdecude and that he is a big softy, I doubt he meant any harm, but probably best to keep those jokes off.

BTW meant to pull you up on this. You said McEvoy trying to punch the ball from behind the nets was cheating. Surely even if he punches through the net if the ball has not crossed the bar it is not a point?

Anyway, it is an advantage like trying to take an extra step forward in a free kick or taking five steps. Wouldn't label it as cheating.

I wonder will there be three keepers on the panel. TBH Rodgers has not done much wrong either.

As far as I could see the ball was on top of the net and therefore must have been a point. Maybe cheating is a bit harsh a word to use but it and stealing yards are deliberately breaking rules to gain an advantage so its splitting hairs a bit. I'm not trying to undermine the fella's character! I just have a personal vendetta against this sort of thing as I got myself into any awful row in one match over giving a goal when a goalkeeper claimed he'd punched it clear.

My main concern with what he did was the likelihood Meath would have scored a goal from the loose ball if the umpire hadn't given the point

[corn02]

Personally I think its a lot more out of order to mock somebody's addiction, especially when its somebody who has given as much to Armagh supporters as Oisin has over the years.

No point in going on about it though.

Yeah can see what you mean, but we all know Illdecude and that he is a big softy, I doubt he meant any harm, but probably best to keep those jokes off.

BTW meant to pull you up on this. You said McEvoy trying to punch the ball from behind the nets was cheating. Surely even if he punches through the net if the ball has not crossed the bar it is not a point?

Anyway, it is an advantage like trying to take an extra step forward in a free kick or taking five steps. Wouldn't label it as cheating.

I wonder will there be three keepers on the panel. TBH Rodgers has not done much wrong either.

As far as I could see the ball was on top of the net and therefore must have been a point. Maybe cheating is a bit harsh a word to use but it and stealing yards are deliberately breaking rules to gain an advantage so its splitting hairs a bit. I'm not trying to undermine the fella's character! I just have a personal vendetta against this sort of thing as I got myself into any awful row in one match over giving a goal when a goalkeeper claimed he'd punched it clear.

My main concern with what he did was the likelihood Meath would have scored a goal from the loose ball if the umpire hadn't given the point

For your second point. He would have looked brave and foolish if they had got a goal out of it.

[David McKeown]

Personally I think its a lot more out of order to mock somebody's addiction, especially when its somebody who has given as much to Armagh supporters as Oisin has over the years.

No point in going on about it though.

Yeah can see what you mean, but we all know Illdecude and that he is a big softy, I doubt he meant any harm, but probably best to keep those jokes off.

BTW meant to pull you up on this. You said McEvoy trying to punch the ball from behind the nets was cheating. Surely even if he punches through the net if the ball has not crossed the bar it is not a point?

Anyway, it is an advantage like trying to take an extra step forward in a free kick or taking five steps. Wouldn't label it as cheating.

I wonder will there be three keepers on the panel. TBH Rodgers has not done much wrong either.

As far as I could see the ball was on top of the net and therefore must have been a point. Maybe cheating is a bit harsh a word to use but it and stealing yards are deliberately breaking rules to gain an advantage so its splitting hairs a bit. I'm not trying to undermine the fella's character! I just have a personal vendetta against this sort of thing as I got myself into any awful row in one match over giving a goal when a goalkeeper claimed he'd punched it clear.

My main concern with what he did was the likelihood Meath would have scored a goal from the loose ball if the umpire hadn't given the point

It may be a moot point but from where I was i thought the ball had gone over the bar and then hit the post that was holding the netting up inside the goal and rebounded off it.  I would have been very close to that net though so my angle wouldnt have been great but there sounded like ball on post as well

[illdecide]

Dunno what the situation is with Paul McGrane but i reckon his starting 15 against Cork should will be there or there abouts regarding his championship team. The U21's playing during the week could maybe upset his plans a we bit but the last 1-2 league games usually give you an indication of the championship team...

[naka]

Dunno what the situation is with Paul McGrane but i reckon his starting 15 against Cork should will be there or there abouts regarding his championship team. The U21's playing during the week could maybe upset his plans a we bit but the last 1-2 league games usually give you an indication of the championship team...

think mc grane is still injured( believe its his knee)
i would say he will not start toner nor forker in cork as they have an ulster final next week, we might get to see mc kenna and kernan,
i wonder will he approach mc entee for some experience /leadership around the middle now that mc grane is struggling, considering Armagh are playing a
  3-3-3-2-1-2 formation
with 3 guys playing around the nmiddle

[illdecide]

Nah i don't think thats gonna happen. Has John Mac not already clarified his situation regarding Armagh, i think he said something along the lines of my legs are gone for county football and even struggling with Cross

[The GAA]

believe you me Peadar would want to be sticking the jersey on for his county as much as every other man on the panel but maybe he feels he doesnt have to run through walls 2 or 3 nights a week just to prove to someone he's committed to the cause.

I'm a bit confused about the toal thing? Is it that he didn't want to train 2 or 3 nights a week?