The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2025, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 01, 2025, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 30, 2025, 11:43:03 PMJust watched The Truth v Alex Jones. Mad to think that 75 million people in the US believed that Sandy Hook was possibly faked. These people have a vote and can literally be fed any type of shite.
Where do get the 75m figure from?
In the court case, when lawyer is explaining to jury the level of influence Jones had/has and the commercial power and revenue base he has for hawking all his snake oil products, he states that 24% of Americans believe Sandy Hook was either definitely or possibly staged. Doesn't explain where he got his data from but it was in a court of law and the numbers weren't challenged from Jones's team and the final settlement was huge based on his earning potential, so can only assume it's not far off.

Makes perfect sense to include newborns, preschoolers and the criminally insane in the calculation

Whatever you think
Who said they were included? Where did you get that from?

You did

You said 24 % of Americans (75M people) believed it was a hoax

Did they poll newborns preschoolers and criminally insane?


Based on the numbers he is posting it would appear so

(The actual numbers I think he's referring to are the from the following article, But it's not 75,000,000 people believing it's was some type of hoax

https://michiganadvance.com/2023/01/03/a-decade-after-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theories-still-plague-the-culture-opinion/

" Six months later, as gun control legislation stalled in Congress, a university poll found 1 in 4 people thought the truth about Sandy Hook was being hidden to advance a political agenda")


Armagh18

Theres a decent percentage of Americans who think they'd beat a grizzly bear in a fight so who knows..

whitey

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 01, 2025, 02:59:14 PMTheres a decent percentage of Americans who think they'd beat a grizzly bear in a fight so who knows..


That doesn't surprise me

There was a famous football coach Bear Bryant who supposedly wrestled a bear at a carnival

In outdoors stores they sell "bear spray" with big warnings not to intentionally initiate contact with bears

DaleCooper

53% of women aged 18-29 choose the bear



https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/49458-would-britons-rather-be-stuck-in-a-forest-with-a-man-or-a-bear

I would imagine 100% of female Brits in that age bracket never encountered a bear but its amusing all the same

Look-Up!

Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 01, 2025, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 30, 2025, 11:43:03 PMJust watched The Truth v Alex Jones. Mad to think that 75 million people in the US believed that Sandy Hook was possibly faked. These people have a vote and can literally be fed any type of shite.
Where do get the 75m figure from?
In the court case, when lawyer is explaining to jury the level of influence Jones had/has and the commercial power and revenue base he has for hawking all his snake oil products, he states that 24% of Americans believe Sandy Hook was either definitely or possibly staged. Doesn't explain where he got his data from but it was in a court of law and the numbers weren't challenged from Jones's team and the final settlement was huge based on his earning potential, so can only assume it's not far off.

Makes perfect sense to include newborns, preschoolers and the criminally insane in the calculation

Whatever you think
Who said they were included? Where did you get that from?

You did

You said 24 % of Americans (75M people) believed it was a hoax
Read my post again. This is the evidence gave to the jury in the Jones case. Never said it was fact, just no one disputed it. So where are you getting your "info" from?

whitey

Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 01, 2025, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 30, 2025, 11:43:03 PMJust watched The Truth v Alex Jones. Mad to think that 75 million people in the US believed that Sandy Hook was possibly faked. These people have a vote and can literally be fed any type of shite.
Where do get the 75m figure from?
In the court case, when lawyer is explaining to jury the level of influence Jones had/has and the commercial power and revenue base he has for hawking all his snake oil products, he states that 24% of Americans believe Sandy Hook was either definitely or possibly staged. Doesn't explain where he got his data from but it was in a court of law and the numbers weren't challenged from Jones's team and the final settlement was huge based on his earning potential, so can only assume it's not far off.

Makes perfect sense to include newborns, preschoolers and the criminally insane in the calculation

Whatever you think
Who said they were included? Where did you get that from?

You did

You said 24 % of Americans (75M people) believed it was a hoax
Read my post again. This is the evidence gave to the jury in the Jones case. Never said it was fact, just no one disputed it. So where are you getting your "info" from?

FFS-LOL

"Never said it was fact"

I've heard it all now

Look-Up!

Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 03:42:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 01, 2025, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on December 01, 2025, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 01, 2025, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on November 30, 2025, 11:43:03 PMJust watched The Truth v Alex Jones. Mad to think that 75 million people in the US believed that Sandy Hook was possibly faked. These people have a vote and can literally be fed any type of shite.
Where do get the 75m figure from?
In the court case, when lawyer is explaining to jury the level of influence Jones had/has and the commercial power and revenue base he has for hawking all his snake oil products, he states that 24% of Americans believe Sandy Hook was either definitely or possibly staged. Doesn't explain where he got his data from but it was in a court of law and the numbers weren't challenged from Jones's team and the final settlement was huge based on his earning potential, so can only assume it's not far off.

Makes perfect sense to include newborns, preschoolers and the criminally insane in the calculation

Whatever you think
Who said they were included? Where did you get that from?

You did

You said 24 % of Americans (75M people) believed it was a hoax
Read my post again. This is the evidence gave to the jury in the Jones case. Never said it was fact, just no one disputed it. So where are you getting your "info" from?

FFS-LOL

"Never said it was fact"

I've heard it all now
What's so funny? Learn to read and get back to me. And try not lie again either. I never mentioned "newborns, preschoolers and the criminally insane", you did.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/11/26/snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory-against-russia/
My other assumption is that Trump no longer commands Washington and is off with the fairies half the time.
The permanent US government is taking charge, humouring him with ever larger doses of flattery, inversely correlated to mounting contempt. "The guardrails are being reasserted. Trump is badly weakened by the Epstein files and Republicans are starting to defy him on a lot of things," said Prof Riley.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/abf8b0b1-7f04-4a61-85bd-001f7cfec30b

The revolution will not be televised; it will come via meme. We will know soon enough whether Donald Trump decides to oust Venezuela's regime. Trump's seemingly random obsession with the country is a distillation of his foreign policy. He is targeting it for domestic US reasons, building his case via social media and is contemptuous of law and ethics. Since Venezuela is in America's backyard, regime change would carry few risks of global escalation.  The question is whether he can pull off regime change without putting US boots on the ground. The roughly 15,000 US military personnel Trump has put within striking distance of Venezuela is a measure of his ambivalence. By a factor of at least 10, the US presence is too great for even an intensified anti-drug operation. That is why even fishing boats are not safe. Yet the US build-up is too small for a land invasion. This puts Trump in a no man's land between overkill and underprepared.  His hope thus seems to be to remove Venezuela's president, Nicolás Maduro, via intimidation. That Trump's manoeuvres are performative makes them no less real. Last weekend, he announced a no-fly zone. Yet he did this on social media rather than through the Pentagon. Though it would be a brave aircraft that strays into Venezuelan airspace, Trump's edict carries no operational force. "Don't read anything into it," he said the next day. Naturally pilots are reading into it. Venezuelan airspace has gone quiet.  

PadraicHenryPearse

random obsession, super journalism there...

J70

And once again the manly, macho Trump and the embarrassingly-out-of-his-depth poser Hegseth can't move quick enough to pass the buck and blame someone else on the likely war crime charges coming for killing the two lads clinging to the wrecked fishing boat off Venezuela.

Shame it's taken that to get the GOP (or at least a few of them) to pull their noses out of Trump's arse and show a modicum of interest in these extrajudicial killings in international waters.

johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on December 02, 2025, 07:18:53 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/abf8b0b1-7f04-4a61-85bd-001f7cfec30b

The revolution will not be televised; it will come via meme. We will know soon enough whether Donald Trump decides to oust Venezuela's regime. Trump's seemingly random obsession with the country is a distillation of his foreign policy. He is targeting it for domestic US reasons, building his case via social media and is contemptuous of law and ethics. Since Venezuela is in America's backyard, regime change would carry few risks of global escalation.  The question is whether he can pull off regime change without putting US boots on the ground. The roughly 15,000 US military personnel Trump has put within striking distance of Venezuela is a measure of his ambivalence. By a factor of at least 10, the US presence is too great for even an intensified anti-drug operation. That is why even fishing boats are not safe. Yet the US build-up is too small for a land invasion. This puts Trump in a no man's land between overkill and underprepared.  His hope thus seems to be to remove Venezuela's president, Nicolás Maduro, via intimidation. That Trump's manoeuvres are performative makes them no less real. Last weekend, he announced a no-fly zone. Yet he did this on social media rather than through the Pentagon. Though it would be a brave aircraft that strays into Venezuelan airspace, Trump's edict carries no operational force. "Don't read anything into it," he said the next day. Naturally pilots are reading into it. Venezuelan airspace has gone quiet.   


Oil, oil and more oil.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2025/12/02/trumps-health-comes-under-spotlight-as-president-hails-eternity-of-three-years-left/

Much as the Republicans are now dogged by the inflation stick that helped to sink the Biden/Harris re-election ticket, Donald Trump is finding himself increasingly judged by the same scrutiny of ageism that ultimately proved catastrophic for Biden.

thewobbler

Maybe some of the great political minds in either party might be able to identify the correlation between putting senior pensioners up for office, and those pensioners showing clear signs of old age when in office.

Banks of the Bann

I wonder if/when the current shower of shite leaves the WH there may be a day of reckoning for all the current criminality/corruption.

Starting with Hesgeth.

https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/1996059132558770478?s=46