The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Truthsayer]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

Who's going to do anything about it? Remember they don't see it as murder..

They certainly won't. The video is a Rorschach test that each side is interpreting in its own way. MAGAs see her driving towards the agent, normal people see her driving away from him.

MAGAs will justify anything. Trump said he could stand on 5th Evenue and shoot any random civilian and would still get elected. He could.

[Armagh18]

See the Governor of Minnesota quoting 1984 today. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, it was their final, most essential command"

Madness how accurate that line is today. The ICE agent who murdered that woman is apparently recovering in hospital after being hit by her car....

[Milltown Row2]

See the Governor of Minnesota quoting 1984 today. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears, it was their final, most essential command"

Madness how accurate that line is today. The ICE agent who murdered that woman is apparently recovering in hospital after being hit by her car....

Was seen walking very well straight afterwards and later on..

Be a fake X-ray coming soon showing broken leg!

[Eamonnca1]

BREAKING: Minneapolis ICE shooting exposes a STUNNING report that says some heavily armed agents can "barely read or write."

A woman is dead in Minneapolis after being shot by an ICE agent — and now we're learning the horrifying context behind the badge.

Just weeks before the killing, a bombshell investigation exposed how Donald Trump's administration has been recklessly rushing 10,000 deportation officers into service, gutting standards, and throwing public safety out the window. The result? A law enforcement force so unqualified that insiders admit some new recruits "can barely read or write."

According to the report, ICE slashed training from 16 weeks to just six, eliminated basic fitness requirements because recruits "couldn't handle sit-ups," and sent trainees to the academy before drug test results even came back. Some later tested positive. Others showed up with gang or white supremacist tattoos, pending criminal charges, or doctors' notes saying they were physically unfit to serve.

This wasn't a fluke. It was policy.

One official bluntly admitted: "We have people failing open-book tests." Another was even more damning: "We're now employing people who are not equipped to tie their own shoelaces."

Background checks? Often done after recruits start working. Vetting? Rubber-stamped in days. Training? Barebones. Oversight? A joke. One HR chief reportedly collapsed from stress as the whole operation spiraled out of control.

And this is the force Trump and his allies insist we must blindly "back," no questions asked.

Now connect the dots. A militarized agency, flooded with undertrained, poorly vetted recruits, whipped into a frenzy by political rhetoric that labels immigrants and protesters as "invaders" and "terrorists" — and then a civilian ends up dead in the street.

This is not an accident. It's the inevitable outcome of a system built on cruelty, chaos, and political desperation.

As one DHS source put it: "This isn't the department of baking cookies." No kidding. This is an agency with the power to detain, deport — and now, apparently, kill — staffed by people that leadership admits were never ready to wear a badge.

Trump wanted speed over safety. Headlines over humanity. Force over competence.

And now a family is grieving, a city is furious, and the country is left asking a question Republicans refuse to answer: How many more people have to die before this disaster is shut down?

Please like and share to spread the outrage!

[Eamonnca1]

Posted by attorney,  Pat Reeves:

"There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law. 1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle 2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing 3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide. Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
The concept governing this is called Supremacy Clause immunity. Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution only if their actions were:
Authorized under federal law; and
"Necessary and proper" to fulfill their federal duties.
If a federal agent is charged in state court, they can petition to have their case "removed" to federal court. In federal court, the judge would then determine whether the agent's actions met the "necessary and proper" standard. If the court finds the agent was acting within the reasonable confines of their duties, the state charges will be dismissed. If not, the state prosecution can proceed in federal court, applying state substantive law. It is unlikely any judge would find his behavior necessary and reasonable. The mere fact that no other officer present unholstered their weapon and appear shocked he fired towards them reinforces that fact.
Estate of Starks v. Enyart, 5 F.3d 230 (7th Cir. 1993)
Seventh Circuit – foundational caseFacts:
Officer stepped in front of a slowly moving vehicle and then shot the driver, claiming fear for his life.
Holding (paraphrased):
"An officer may not unreasonably create a physically threatening situation and then use deadly force to escape it."
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Ninth Circuit
Facts:
Officer jumped in front of a vehicle during a stop and then fired.
Holding:
An officer cannot provoke a confrontation and then rely on the danger they created to justify deadly force.
Key language:
The court emphasized that reasonableness includes the officer's own tactical decisions leading up to the shooting.

Thompson v. Hubbard, 257 F.3d 896 (8th Cir. 2001)
Eighth Circuit
Key point:
The court rejected summary judgment for officers where evidence showed the officer moved into the vehicle's path, creating the perceived threat.

Abraham v. Raso, 183 F.3d 279 (3d Cir. 1999)
Third Circuit
Facts:
Off-duty officer shot a fleeing driver.
Holding:
The court stressed that pre-seizure conduct matters and that officers cannot rely solely on the "split second" framing if their own actions escalated the situation.
Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475 (6th Cir. 2008)
Holding:
Deadly force may be unconstitutional where:
The officer fired into a moving vehicle
The officer could have stepped aside
The threat was self-created
The Sixth Circuit explicitly rejected the idea that a moving car automatically justifies gunfire.

Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007)
Holding:
An officer may not intentionally place himself in danger and then use deadly force to neutralize the danger he created — including firing into a vehicle.
The Ninth Circuit emphasized tactical disengagement as the constitutional expectation.
Training & Policy Alignment (Courts Care About This)
Many courts note that modern police training instructs:
Do not fire into moving vehicles
Do not use deadly force to stop a fleeing car
Disengage and contain instead
Courts treat violations of training as evidence of unreasonableness, even if not dispositive."

[Puckoon]

BREAKING: Minneapolis ICE shooting exposes a STUNNING report that says some heavily armed agents can "barely read or write."

A woman is dead in Minneapolis after being shot by an ICE agent — and now we're learning the horrifying context behind the badge.

Just weeks before the killing, a bombshell investigation exposed how Donald Trump's administration has been recklessly rushing 10,000 deportation officers into service, gutting standards, and throwing public safety out the window. The result? A law enforcement force so unqualified that insiders admit some new recruits "can barely read or write."

According to the report, ICE slashed training from 16 weeks to just six, eliminated basic fitness requirements because recruits "couldn't handle sit-ups," and sent trainees to the academy before drug test results even came back. Some later tested positive. Others showed up with gang or white supremacist tattoos, pending criminal charges, or doctors' notes saying they were physically unfit to serve.

This wasn't a fluke. It was policy.

One official bluntly admitted: "We have people failing open-book tests." Another was even more damning: "We're now employing people who are not equipped to tie their own shoelaces."

Background checks? Often done after recruits start working. Vetting? Rubber-stamped in days. Training? Barebones. Oversight? A joke. One HR chief reportedly collapsed from stress as the whole operation spiraled out of control.

And this is the force Trump and his allies insist we must blindly "back," no questions asked.

Now connect the dots. A militarized agency, flooded with undertrained, poorly vetted recruits, whipped into a frenzy by political rhetoric that labels immigrants and protesters as "invaders" and "terrorists" — and then a civilian ends up dead in the street.

This is not an accident. It's the inevitable outcome of a system built on cruelty, chaos, and political desperation.

As one DHS source put it: "This isn't the department of baking cookies." No kidding. This is an agency with the power to detain, deport — and now, apparently, kill — staffed by people that leadership admits were never ready to wear a badge.

Trump wanted speed over safety. Headlines over humanity. Force over competence.

And now a family is grieving, a city is furious, and the country is left asking a question Republicans refuse to answer: How many more people have to die before this disaster is shut down?

Please like and share to spread the outrage!

This is the nonsense the right spread about the radical left. Better left unposted.
The thing speaks for itself without nonsensical propaganda.

[Eamonnca1]

It's not "nonsensical propaganda." It's all completely verifiable.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) significantly reduced certain recruitment standards in 2025 to meet hiring goals, including removing age limits, cutting training time in half, and dropping the Spanish language requirement, while also offering large signing bonuses and student loan forgiveness to attract officers amidst an aggressive expansion. These changes have drawn criticism from lawmakers concerned about increased misconduct, with ICE reportedly doubling its workforce in 2025.

Sources:

Secretary Noem Unveils No Age Limit for Patriotic Americans to Join ICE Law Enforcement to Help Remove Worst of the Worst from U.S.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/06/secretary-noem-unveils-no-age-limit-patriotic-americans-join-ice-law-enforcement

^ That's from the horse's mouth. They're not confessing. They're bragging.

Durbin Presses Noem On Lax ICE Hiring Standards, Inflammatory Recruitment Messaging
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/dem/releases/durbin-presses-noem-on-lax-ice-hiring-standards-inflammatory-recruitment-messaging

As ICE boosts recruitment, critics concerned over changes to hiring and training standards
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/as-ice-boosts-recruitment-critics-concerned-over-changes-to-hiring-and-training-standards


Just because the right spews fact-averse crap doesn't mean everything coming from the left is equally false.

[Rossfan]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

[RedHand88]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

[markl121]

Just breezed through preclearance in Dublin. No issues. No questions. Not very 1930s Germany

[trueblue1234]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

America at the minute is crazy. And a complete tinderbox. While there has always been differences between Reps & Dems, there was never the level of hate and hostility between them as now. Trump is acting with no international regards, and that can only be a bad thing for everyone. Surely you see the potential for this to get much uglier.

[Armagh18]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

It didn't start with concentration camps. It started much much smaller, and people like you turning a blind eye because it didn't affect them were a big part of it.

[RedHand88]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

America at the minute is crazy. And a complete tinderbox. While there has always been differences between Reps & Dems, there was never the level of hate and hostility between them as now. Trump is acting with no international regards, and that can only be a bad thing for everyone. Surely you see the potential for this to get much uglier.

It's not though. There are 300 million people in it, 99% of whom are going about their daily lives, going to work and looking after their family, the other 1% are screaming at each other on Twitter like maniacs.

Do you not notice it's the same 4 or 5 people posting in this thread relentlessly?

[Armagh18]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

America at the minute is crazy. And a complete tinderbox. While there has always been differences between Reps & Dems, there was never the level of hate and hostility between them as now. Trump is acting with no international regards, and that can only be a bad thing for everyone. Surely you see the potential for this to get much uglier.

It's not though. There are 300 million people in it, 99% of whom are going about their daily lives, going to work and looking after their family, the other 1% are screaming at each other on Twitter like maniacs.

They've a leadership thats completely detached from all normality and reality, an armed state sponsored militia murdering innocent people in the streets... surely you can see the potential for disaster there given the amount of guns and amount of absolute lunatics in the country?

[Rossfan]

1930s Germany reborn in the Thug States of America.
The SA now ICE, Jews now anyone that looks like an immigrant, dictator ruling by decree, howling mob of fanatic supporters......

When people say stuff like this, I always wonder have they actually read what 1930s Germany was like.

It didn't start with concentration camps. It started much much smaller, and people like you turning a blind eye because it didn't affect them were a big part of it.

First they came for......

Meanwhile....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41772611.html