The Many Faces of US Politics...

[J70]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

[Truthsayer]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

I'm not so sure Trump hasn't got a free hand now to do as he pleases. His huge fan club is defending that woman's murder yesterday. Could be the first of many.

[Armagh18]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

Who's going to do anything about it? Remember they don't see it as murder..

[Captain Scarlet]

The problem is that it's all numbing. The amount of horrendous things going on just frazzles my brain. I can't get my head around it.
The Gaza genocide is a stain on humanity but then you look at both sides of the aisle in the USA and they take the AIPAC soup and most say very little against Israel.

Very few of the Trump sycophants are stupid, but they all lack any morals. They are out there defending murder because it serves them to do so and in some cases they are fundamentalists who genuinely think 'the left' are the biggest danger going.

Across all the events of recent years they will literally contradict video evidence. I have no idea where it will end. There is no precedent for this administration in terms of domestic and global actions. You can't even call it policy as that would mean they had fully formed long-term plans.

[J70]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

Who's going to do anything about it? Remember they don't see it as murder..

Indeed, that's an optimistic statement.

However, I do think a couple similar murders would bring people onto the streets way above what we've seen so far. And it would presumably force at least a few GOP politicians to publically disavow what they're doing.

We've had a few GOP senators come out and rule out the US using the military to take Greenland. Might seem obvious and minimalistic, but that's a lot more resistance than you usually get from the Republicans, who have bent over on everything except for the four who joined the Dems to force the (slow) release of the Epstein files.

[Captain Scarlet]

But the problem is the money men behind the Super Pacs just see dollar signs and no-one who looks like them having any grief from ICE or law enforcement, so their paid for poloticians won't pipe up.

I know the party in power often take a kicking in the mid-terms, but in any normal country they would be DESTROYED with all this stuff going on. I mean it'd be a wipeout - but it won't.

In terms of people hitting the streets, they will just be dismissed as Antifa and the news outlets will interview a few headbangers who can be ignored.

My tiny brain cannot process all this shite going on!

[Puckoon]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

Golly, I think he absolutely could.

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

[Wildweasel74]

Where ole Whitey to defend the undefensible. This killing, Greenland, where the drugs suddenly gone to in Venezuela. The normal defence of the Democrats would do the same. hasnt the same ring to it. If Trump had been brought up on charges of causing a riot and insurrection on Jan the 6th, instead trying to get tax evasion in New York. I dont think the US would be the mess it currently is.

[J70]

But the problem is the money men behind the Super Pacs just see dollar signs and no-one who looks like them having any grief from ICE or law enforcement, so their paid for poloticians won't pipe up.

I know the party in power often take a kicking in the mid-terms, but in any normal country they would be DESTROYED with all this stuff going on. I mean it'd be a wipeout - but it won't.

In terms of people hitting the streets, they will just be dismissed as Antifa and the news outlets will interview a few headbangers who can be ignored.

My tiny brain cannot process all this shite going on!

Seven million came out back in October for just the No Kings protests. I was in Times Square and it was jammed for blocks.

And yeah, they tried to dismiss it all as a bunch of paid protesters, but outside of the MAGAt base, it didn't take.

If that murder yesterday is a sign of what's to come, I'd say the No Kings protests would easily be exceeded. And it IS an election year, at least for now.

[J70]

Where ole Whitey to defend the undefensible. This killing, Greenland, where the drugs suddenly gone to in Venezuela. The normal defence of the Democrats would do the same. hasnt the same ring to it. If Trump had been brought up on charges of causing a riot and insurrection on Jan the 6th, instead trying to get tax evasion in New York. I dont think the US would be the mess it currently is.

Yep, Mitch McConnell and Merrick Garland have a lot to answer for.

[Captain Scarlet]

J70 not to dismiss one of the largest protests ever over there, but all the batshit stuff has been happening since. They need to really demolish the GOP in the midterms, but the sad thing is I don't think that will happen. There's MAGA, but plenty of normals vote for a party that is a borderline cult.

I know it's not in their mindset but a national strike or boycotts would be something to do.

[J70]

J70 not to dismiss one of the largest protests ever over there, but all the batshit stuff has been happening since. They need to really demolish the GOP in the midterms, but the sad thing is I don't think that will happen. There's MAGA, but plenty of normals vote for a party that is a borderline cult.

I know it's not in their mindset but a national strike or boycotts would be something to do.

Part of the problem is that division and rancour is pure oxygen to Trump. He revels in it due to his hold on the US right. Strikes develop, and you have the entire GOP, Fox News and their imitators, the right wing podcasters, and as of last week, CBS News, labeling everyone a bunch of paid, unpatriotic, communinist agitators. Trump will delight in it as a means to solidify his base ahead of the elections. Transport and shipping shut down? Grocery shelves bare? Blame those crazy commie transgender leftists.

I think peaceful people on the street in massive numbers is the realistic way, although boycotts of certain MAGA-supporting people and companies will definitely help too. The backlash against Disney in the form of cancelled subscriptions is why Kimmel was back on the air within a week.

[seafoid]

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2009313997183439238
BREAKING: In a major blow to Donald Trump, the Senate voted 52–47 to advance a resolution that would bar the president from taking further military action in Venezuela without congressional approval. Republican Sens. Paul, Hawley, Murkowski, Collins, and Young supported the measure, along with all Democrats.

https://x.com/DemocraticWins/status/2009309601523458223
BREAKING: Senator Tim Kaine's War Powers Resolution to constrain Donald Trump's ability to take us to war was just approved to be voted on the Senate floor by a 52-47 margin. Kaine flipped several Republicans to make this happen. This is huge.

[Eamonnca1]

Can he veto it though? I thought you needed a supermajority to be veto-proof.

[Eamonnca1]

Most of the gun nuts would be Trumpers, but yeah, with more guns than people in the country, it would not be hard for some misguided, leftist moron to get his hands on one and try to target one of them.

And if ICE continues to murder American citizens with impunity backed by the state... what do they do? Stay indoors, don't protest, sup it up..

I don't think even Trump could get away with repeated murders of peaceful protesters. But I do know that the murder of even one of these ICE officers will unleash holy hell from his government.

Who's going to do anything about it? Remember they don't see it as murder..

They certainly won't. The video is a Rorschach test that each side is interpreting in its own way. MAGAs see her driving towards the agent, normal people see her driving away from him.