The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 18, 2025, 05:43:47 PMTheres very few humans alive today who are as bad as that bastard Trump.

But if the Democrats weren't as bad as they are, he would never have gotten reelected

When you can only vote for two people.. if both bad it's a coin toss.. What's it like to be right all the time?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

seafoid

The Democrats are recovering.

https://www.ft.com/content/8a2c87eb-dcab-43fb-9c26-5625aa93f3f9

Yet America's 21st century robber barons provide an irresistible political target. Having been Silicon Valley's boosters since the days of Bill Clinton, Democrats are experiencing latent remorse. Instead of being a flash-in-the-pan, Zohran Mamdani, New York's newly elected mayor, looks more like a possible trailblazer. Even centrists, such as James Carville, Clinton's "it's the economy, stupid" campaign manager, sound radical. "It is time for Democrats to embrace a sweeping, aggressive, unvarnished, unapologetic and altogether unmistakable platform of pure economic rage," Carville wrote in the New York Times. "This is our only way out of the abyss."

J70

The Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

whitey

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Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)



gallsman

Literally none of that is true though, is it? Think you need to go back to "scholl" yourself.

bennydorano

BBC News - Kennedy Center to be renamed Trump-Kennedy Center, White House says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp84pxvp87eo

Serious Q - Do US News Channels report the likes of this with straight faces?? I assume Fox doesn't but what about the others

DaleCooper

The first Jewish President of Pax Judaica. A wonderful time to be alive!

Captain Obvious

Hopefully Whitey's Uncle back in May had the common to say nothing and simply shake his head in disbelief at how his nephew has allowed himself to get so badly influenced with lies and utter nonsense.

J70

Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

whitey

Quote from: gallsman on December 18, 2025, 07:57:34 PMLiterally none of that is true though, is it? Think you need to go back to "scholl" yourself.

It's all 100% true (unfortunately)

whitey

Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job

Including swing voters who voted for Obama twice and Biden once

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job


That was pretty stupid. Prices are still going up

whitey

Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2025, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job


That was pretty stupid. Prices are still going up

Maybe

But this is equally as stupid


https://cis.org/Report/Massachusetts-Case-Study-Mass-Immigration-and-Welfare-State


Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2025, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 18, 2025, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 18, 2025, 07:04:21 PMThe Dems are a normal, centrist, moderate party by western standards.

The Republicans are a far right, christian nationalist personality cult. What the DUP might have become had NI been a huge country.

But they're not

There are 4 Irish born people in my town

2 of us are moderate Republicans

1 is hard core MAGA

1 is a Democrat

The other moderate Republican is pro life. He and his wife were pressurized to terminate a pregnancy due to a (false) Down Syndrome diagnoses. The kid in question went to Harvard Medical Scholl and today is a neo natal surgeon at one of the most prestigious teaching hospitals in the world. Termination up to and including the date of delivery based on a Down Syndrome diagnosis is allowable in Massachusetts.

The MAGA supporter (a woman) had 2 sons at the local high school. The "woke mob" backed the the town Democratic committee tried to essentially ruin the life of one of their son's friends (and his family) due to a false homophobic accusation. (Graffiti in the bathroom of the  high school got pinned on the wrong person and the Democratic members of the school committee were advocating for hate crime charges to be filed against a 15 year old kid)




I'm not talking about whitey's friends in Massachusetts.

I'm talking about the national Republican Party which Trump has taken over lock, stock and barrel.

The day the party push back on any of Trump's historical extremism, narcissism, corruption and bigotry, you can come back to us.

In the meantime, places like Florida are banning chemtrails and fluoride, RFK Jr is trying to overturn decades of proven public health medicine, Trump is defunding science and medicine left, right and center, and Musk destroyed the lives of millions worldwide by "feeding USAID through the wood chipper".

Trump is getting his name on the Kennedy Center and his face on NPS park passes, cabinet meetings feature outlandish claims and toe-curlingly embarrassing fawning that would even make the Kims blush, there's talk about putting his face on one of the 250 year anniversary coins next year.

But sure it's all normal political party behaviour.

And I haven't even mentioned the immigration round-ups or the tariffs.

So after 4 years of Joe and Kamala 77000000 people felt the Republicans would do a better job


That was pretty stupid. Prices are still going up

Maybe

But this is equally as stupid


https://cis.org/Report/Massachusetts-Case-Study-Mass-Immigration-and-Welfare-State



Over the last decade (roughly 2014-2024), the U.S. saw significant, fluctuating immigration, with the total foreign-born population reaching a record high of over 47.8 million by 2023, growing by over 1.6 million people in just 2022-2023. While some periods saw record highs in legal permanent residency (around 1.2 million in 2016) and high numbers of new green cards (over 1 million in 2019), the 2020s brought record numbers of total arrivals, with over 11 million immigrants arriving between 2020-2025, including a peak of over 3 million in 2023 alone, shifting origin countries towards South America and Europe

Is this a new thing?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Puckoon

I think perhaps it's your assertion that things are equally as bad, or as stupid, or as evil that is the rock your arguments wash up on (for me at least).

There are no arguments that the democratic leadership has been and is in a shambles. As Eamonn, and others have rightly pointed out however, things are not the same. Perhaps that's just where it becomes opinion and we move on, but there are plenty of facts to support the overall narrative. The cult of Trump is strong and rooted in pettiness, vengefulness and sheer hatred. His plaques yesterday and his address to the nation show him for what he is.