The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Puckoon]

It was a good post, but obviously he thinks there's bad guys only on one side

I'm sure as a "liberal" living in Deep Red Texas, Puckoon is driven absolutely insane by the flat out fvckery he witnesses on a daily basis

As a "conservative" living in Massachusetts I deal with the other side of the same coin

My question for Puckoon and J70 and others where was there outrage when child rapists and murderers were released into their communities under sanctuary policies?


They are justifiably outraged now with what's happening with ICE, but when their side did something equally as outrageous....what did we hear?

Crickets!

Ugh.

Nowhere near Deep state Texas. No where near Texas, in fact. Live in one of the swingiest counties in one of the swingiest states.

As a recently minted American citizen, I have had the opportunity to vote in only one election - so personally carry no responsibility for any politician in office either past or present.

I am in firm agreement with deportation for heinous crimes. In fact, as I was swearing my green card application in many many years ago I recall bemusement at the activities for which the green card could be revoked as well as having to indicate that I had never been a member of the German National Socialist Party after 1936 (I believe that was the date, I am recalling from memory). Drug Trafficking, Heinous Sex Crimes, and I believe habitual drunkeness were still valid green card revocation reasons.

A vote is a serious thing. In so much as a sanctuary city not releasing career criminals for deportation is not something I would vote for - it is not my primary issue on the current political spectrum. It would be pretty high on the list, if we had an option to vote against it. Trump will never be that option.

I think you're willfully conflating sanctuary city omission with the current ICE activity. They are not the same.

The democrats are not Mother Theresa. They are far from it. Even she had her detractors.

[DaleCooper]

Now that they have outlived their usefulness some Jews want to boot Muslims out of the US. Deep, rich irony. Oct 7th caused a cascade of panic among the US power elite.

>> Congressman Randy Fine (R-FL) demands the United States deport ALL Muslim immigrants, and revoke citizenships en masse

"Mainstream Muslims have declared war on us.  The least we can do is kick them the hell out of America."

"It is time for a Muslim travel ban, radical deportations of all mainstream Muslim legal and illegal immigrants, and citizenship revocations wherever possible".

[whitey]

It was a good post, but obviously he thinks there's bad guys only on one side

I'm sure as a "liberal" living in Deep Red Texas, Puckoon is driven absolutely insane by the flat out fvckery he witnesses on a daily basis

As a "conservative" living in Massachusetts I deal with the other side of the same coin

My question for Puckoon and J70 and others where was there outrage when child rapists and murderers were released into their communities under sanctuary policies?


They are justifiably outraged now with what's happening with ICE, but when their side did something equally as outrageous....what did we hear?

Crickets!

Ugh.

Nowhere near Deep state Texas. No where near Texas, in fact. Live in one of the swingiest counties in one of the swingiest states.

As a recently minted American citizen, I have had the opportunity to vote in only one election - so personally carry no responsibility for any politician in office either past or present.

I am in firm agreement with deportation for heinous crimes. In fact, as I was swearing my green card application in many many years ago I recall bemusement at the activities for which the green card could be revoked as well as having to indicate that I had never been a member of the German National Socialist Party after 1936 (I believe that was the date, I am recalling from memory). Drug Trafficking, Heinous Sex Crimes, and I believe habitual drunkeness were still valid green card revocation reasons.

A vote is a serious thing. In so much as a sanctuary city not releasing career criminals for deportation is not something I would vote for - it is not my primary issue on the current political spectrum. It would be pretty high on the list, if we had an option to vote against it. Trump will never be that option.

I think you're willfully conflating sanctuary city omission with the current ICE activity. They are not the same.

The democrats are not Mother Theresa. They are far from it. Even she had her detractors.

Apologies-I mixed you up with another poster

When I was in Ireland last August my Uncle, who's very well read and informed, was shaking his head

"I just can't understand how 77,000,000 people would vote for Trump....it makes no sense whatsoever". He was truly confounded

I told him that if he had lived through 4 years of Joe and Kamala it would make all the sense in the world.

I think we all agree.....what ICE is doing is disgraceful

But what Democratic cities and states are doing is equally as disgraceful in my opinion and swung swing voters into camp Trump

I wouldn't call that conflating the two.

I'm pointing out that Trumps election and subsequent actions were simply a reaction to 4 years of catastrophic mismanagement of immigration by the Democrats

[J70]

Sorry whitey, but there's no equivalency or equal level of disgrace. While i've stated multiple times that I think people who've served sentences for violent crimes should absolutely be held and handed over even where ICE doesn't have a judicial warrant (and they are in some places with other sanctuary policies), they are still free to pick the convicts up the second they walk out through the prison gates. It's not like ICE under Biden and Obama weren't targeting criminals either. The issue is that under Trump they're going after all kinds of law-abiding people who've been here for years, paying taxes and living blameless, productive lives, literally abducting them out of their jobs and personal lives without warning.

But to get back to the serious offenders you're focussed on, is an illegal immigrant who is also a convicted murderer or rapist more dangerous to the community than a citizen or someone else who is permitted to be in the country? If a citizen with such a history moves in next door, should we be less concerned than we would be if they were an illegal immigrant?  What percentage of rapists and murderers who have served their time are illegal immigrants?

[J70]

I see the dear leader put out a heartfelt tribute to Rob Reiner that was so classless and repugnant that even some Republicans are tut-tutting!

Meanwhile, three months ago, people were getting fired from their jobs for social media posts legimitately criticizing Charlie Kirk's rhetoric.

https://x.com/RepMTG/status/2000597575901327850/photo/1

[Look-Up!]

Whatever your political affiliations that's too classless to be true.

Just on the ICE and deportations and immigrant numbers, US is so politicised it's hard to believe any numbers comes out of there, especially from the WH. Everything has a slant on it. Obama was a dem, but during Trump's first term the spiel was he threw far more people into cages and deported, than Trump every did. Now it's the dem's sat on their hands and let things go so badly that it requires masked agents to go round the streets rounding up people. Which is it? Or is it not the dems but just Biden and Kamala? Fake news indeed.

[whitey]

Sorry whitey, but there's no equivalency or equal level of disgrace. While i've stated multiple times that I think people who've served sentences for violent crimes should absolutely be held and handed over even where ICE doesn't have a judicial warrant (and they are in some places with other sanctuary policies), they are still free to pick the convicts up the second they walk out through the prison gates. It's not like ICE under Biden and Obama weren't targeting criminals either. The issue is that under Trump they're going after all kinds of law-abiding people who've been here for years, paying taxes and living blameless, productive lives, literally abducting them out of their jobs and personal lives without warning.

But to get back to the serious offenders you're focussed on, is an illegal immigrant who is also a convicted murderer or rapist more dangerous to the community than a citizen or someone else who is permitted to be in the country? If a citizen with such a history moves in next door, should we be less concerned than we would be if they were an illegal immigrant?  What percentage of rapists and murderers who have served their time are illegal immigrants?


I completely disagree-Democrats releasing people into the community who are drug dealers, murderers or rapists is equally as outrageous what Trump is currently doing with ICE

If a rapist was moving in next door to me and there was a legal mechanism by which it could be prevented and the authorities refused to enforce that mechanism then that would be a huge problem

We can't deport people who are in the country legally

We can deport people who are in the country illegally

So if we can get shut of a rapist, a murderer or a drug dealer why wouldn't we?

[DaleCooper]

Trump turned things up to 11

[whitey]

Whatever your political affiliations that's too classless to be true.

Just on the ICE and deportations and immigrant numbers, US is so politicised it's hard to believe any numbers comes out of there, especially from the WH. Everything has a slant on it. Obama was a dem, but during Trump's first term the spiel was he threw far more people into cages and deported, than Trump every did. Now it's the dem's sat on their hands and let things go so badly that it requires masked agents to go round the streets rounding up people. Which is it? Or is it not the dems but just Biden and Kamala? Fake news indeed.

I live in Massachusetts

Rapists murderers and drug dealers are being released into the community due to sanctuary policies

I find that equally as offensive as what ICE is doing

[Eamonnca1]

We are not the same.

[OakLeaf]

We are not the same.

The man is pure vermin.