The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Any chance you could answer the question?

If your definition of him being a criminal is the verdict in the NY case-my answer is no

That case was a steaming heap of horse manure that should never have been taken never mind prosecuted

Do I think he committed other criminal acts-yes I do (but this cringey and cutesy "convicted felon" nonsense repeated by the Democrats during the campaign actually hurt them imho)

Any chance you could answer the question?

If your definition of him being a criminal is the verdict in the NY case-my answer is no

That case was a steaming heap of horse manure that should never have been taken never mind prosecuted

Do I think he committed other criminal acts-yes I do (but this cringey and cutesy "convicted felon" nonsense repeated by the Democrats during the campaign actually hurt them imho)

So, you think he is (or should be) a felon,but it's "cutesy" to say that he is. 

OK.

[Truthsayer]

FFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.

Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent you from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?

Why do you assume I'd vote for Gerry Adams whether a case was taken against him or not? 😀 Strange outlook from the American...

Would it prevent Sinn Fein supporters from voting for him? (Edited original
Post)

As Trump said he could shoot a random stranger on the street and still get voted in. I doubt whether Adams (or any others politician's) voters are as psychologically twisted.

So Sinn Fein supporters would abandon Gerry Adams if he was convicted by of crime by a jury composed entirely of DUP voters, in a Case brought by a DUP prosecutor, presided over by a judge who donated to a super pac entitled "Stop Sinn Fein".

Interesting

I'm lost with the Adams' analogy which no doubt your intention. Absolute nonsense.

[whitey]

Any chance you could answer the question?

If your definition of him being a criminal is the verdict in the NY case-my answer is no

That case was a steaming heap of horse manure that should never have been taken never mind prosecuted

Do I think he committed other criminal acts-yes I do (but this cringey and cutesy "convicted felon" nonsense repeated by the Democrats during the campaign actually hurt them imho)

Any chance you could answer the question?

If your definition of him being a criminal is the verdict in the NY case-my answer is no

That case was a steaming heap of horse manure that should never have been taken never mind prosecuted

Do I think he committed other criminal acts-yes I do (but this cringey and cutesy "convicted felon" nonsense repeated by the Democrats during the campaign actually hurt them imho)

So, you think he is (or should be) a felon,but it's "cutesy" to say that he is. 

OK.

Complete cringefest

The entire Harris campaign was just a toe curling, cringeworthy set of slogans and celebrity endorsed bunch of baloney. The "convicted felon" line was just part and parcel of that

[Jell 0 Biafra]

So, you think he's a felon, or you don't?

Very simple question.

[whitey]

So, you think he's a felon, or you don't?

Very simple question.

It doesn't matter what I think....He has 34 felony convictions so yes, that (technically) makes him a felon.

BUT the case was a bunch of complete and utter nonsense-he got completely railroaded by a partisan Democratic prosecutor and a corrupt judge in a trial that was held in a city where 86.7 % of voters voted for his opponent

[Captain Obvious]

The entire Harris campaign was just a toe curling, cringeworthy set of slogans and celebrity endorsed bunch of baloney. The "convicted felon" line was just part and parcel of that

Basically describing Trumps campaign which ran for years instead of months under Harris and was supported by Musk to spread his lies online and in the end was enough for the many million idiots to get the baboon back in office.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

So, you think he's a felon, or you don't?

Very simple question.

It doesn't matter what I think....He has 34 felony convictions so yes, that (technically) makes him a felon.

BUT the case was a bunch of complete and utter nonsense-he got completely railroaded by a partisan Democratic prosecutor and a corrupt judge in a trial that was held in a city where 86.7 % of voters voted for his opponent

It's an internet forum. To the extent that anything we discuss matters, it actually does matter what you think.

If I have it correct, you think Trump is (technically) a felon, but shouldn't be.  Is that right?

[johnnycool]

Say what you like, but Whitey has a point and it's one of the main reasons America is entering it's end of days phase as an empire, dictating and policing the world.

When your judicial and legal system is so tightly entwined to your political system then there's no such thing as justice being seen to be done, it's going to be twisted one way or the other.

The shooting of the Health Insurance CEO and the responses to it from these very same classes tells the ordinary American that there is no justice for you, big companies can do whatever they want and you are fúcked.

[Rossfan]

And then they vote for Trump......
You couldn't make it up.

[johnnycool]

And then they vote for Trump......
You couldn't make it up.

Trump, Harris/Biden.

Two cheeks of the same arse!

There is no choice, democracy is an illusion

[Wildweasel74]

Trump should went to Jail for what happened in Washington that day. The fact it was not investigated immediately and took to court on enticement to riot, is a mystery. Instead took to court for some idiot to try make a name for himself.

[OakLeaf]

Trump should went to Jail for what happened in Washington that day. The fact it was not investigated immediately and took to court on enticement to riot, is a mystery. Instead took to court for some idiot to try make a name to himself.

American politics is rotten to the core. To be fair many of the main Western nations aren't far behind. People talk about the end of days for the American empire. I'd argue that if the West doesnt get it's shit together soon that it will be end of days (as world leaders), for the US and Europe. India and China will soon be ready to take up the mantle. As soon as the US dollar looses its status as the reserve currency, they are hosed, given their high levels of debt. You'd like to think the West will wise up and get back on an even keel, but we're in an era of short-termism in world politics, and that doesn't bode well. I think the world will be a very different place in 20-30 years time.

[Wildweasel74]

Here the UK picked Boris Johnson and Truss, one a bluffer and the other out of her depth. Shocking appointments. I can't believe how bad Starmer is. Over here we pick the same all the time based solely on religion and not on ability. Are we all that stupid like Americans, apparently  so.

[thewobbler]

Here the UK picked Boris Johnson and Truss, one a bluffer and the other out of her depth. Shocking appointments. I can't believe how bad Starmer is. Over here we pick the same all the time based solely on religion and not on ability. Are we all that stupid like Americans, apparently  so.

I made this point on Twitter the last time Tories got re-elected. Norn Irish people giving off stink about how idiotic English people are, having just that morning voted Catholic and Protestant.

Meanwhile the Irish continue to vote for property development conglomerates masked as political parties.

Yet we like to think of Americans as stupid.

[Dagda Moore]

There is no choice, democracy is an illusion

This, I'm afraid, is about the size of it. You either vote for your own oaf, or someone else's. In the end, it makes very little difference.