The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

Puckoon

Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

whitey

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Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent Sinn Fein voters from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent you from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?
Why do you assume I'd vote for Gerry Adams whether a case was taken against him or not? 😀 Strange outlook from the American...

whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 02:02:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent you from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?
Why do you assume I'd vote for Gerry Adams whether a case was taken against him or not? 😀 Strange outlook from the American...

Would it prevent Sinn Fein supporters from voting for him? (Edited original
Post)

J70

You'd swear Trump didn't have access to elite and hyper-expensive legal representation, including specialist jury selection firms. Or that inhabitants of liberal cities were somehow incapable of impartially deciding the merits of a case.

No doubt the Dems, or more specifically Merrick Garland, fucked up the lawsuits though. The Jan 6th case, by far the most important and damning (along with the case in Atlanta), should have been launched immediately after Biden took office. The Manhattan Stormy Daniels case was trivial in comparison. You can always count on the Dems to dither and fumble about.

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

The f**k would anyone care whether Trump voters think he broke the law?  He said himself he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and no-one would care.

Do you think Trump isn't a criminal?

whitey

Quote from: J70 on January 20, 2025, 02:16:58 AMYou'd swear Trump didn't have access to elite and hyper-expensive legal representation, including specialist jury selection firms. Or that inhabitants of liberal cities were somehow incapable of impartially deciding the merits of a case.

No doubt the Dems, or more specifically Merrick Garland, fucked up the lawsuits though. The Jan 6th case, by far the most important and damning (along with the case in Atlanta), should have been launched immediately after Biden took office. The Manhattan Stormy Daniels case was trivial in comparison. You can always count on the Dems to dither and fumble about.

I'm sure the judge who made a donation to "Stop Republicans" Super PAC gave Trump a fair shake

And then there's this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/harris-campaign-hired-marketing-firm-run-by-judge-merchans-daughter-ethics-complaint-reveals/amp/


And some are still wondering why 77M people didn't give a $hit about the "felony convictions" when they were in the polling booth

whitey

#26079
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 02:30:00 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

The f**k would anyone care whether Trump voters think he broke the law?  He said himself he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and no-one would care.

Do you think Trump isn't a criminal?

They were misdemeanors that through legal voodo got magically turned into felonies just to get Trump

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna154413

Bragg handed the election to Trump

Smerconish is probably the best political commentator on air at the moment

https://www.smerconish.com/exclusive-content/the-wrong-trump-prosecution/

Jell 0 Biafra

Any chance you could answer the question?

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 02:08:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 02:02:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent you from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?
Why do you assume I'd vote for Gerry Adams whether a case was taken against him or not? 😀 Strange outlook from the American...

Would it prevent Sinn Fein supporters from voting for him? (Edited original
Post)
As Trump said he could shoot a random stranger on the street and still get voted in. I doubt whether Adams (or any others politician's) voters are as psychologically twisted.

whitey

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 02:42:37 AMAny chance you could answer the question?

If your definition of him being a criminal is the verdict in the NY case-my answer is no

That case was a steaming heap of horse manure that should never have been taken never mind prosecuted

Do I think he committed other criminal acts-yes I do (but this cringey and cutesy "convicted felon" nonsense repeated by the Democrats during the campaign actually hurt them imho)

whitey

Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 02:54:21 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 02:08:17 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 02:02:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on January 20, 2025, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 20, 2025, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 20, 2025, 01:01:32 AMFFS, it's abundantly clear that Trump broke the law.  It's not like he's not done it before (just ask any of his unpaid contractors), but this time he was convicted.  He's a felon, plain and simple. Democratic prosecutor or no, is irrelevant to the legal issue.

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/make-no-mistake-the-trump-case-was-an-unprecedented-application-of-the-law/amp/

It was joke from stat to finish and probably cost the Democrats the election

77 M people who voted for him obviously see it differently to you

More aptly, they don't care.
Just that - Voters of Trump not a great moral compass...

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally. True dat.

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

If a DUP prosecutor took a case against Gerry Adams and the jury was drawn from an area where 80% of people voted for the DUP would a guilty verdict prevent you from voting for Gerry Adams at the next election ?
Why do you assume I'd vote for Gerry Adams whether a case was taken against him or not? 😀 Strange outlook from the American...

Would it prevent Sinn Fein supporters from voting for him? (Edited original
Post)
As Trump said he could shoot a random stranger on the street and still get voted in. I doubt whether Adams (or any others politician's) voters are as psychologically twisted.

So Sinn Fein supporters would abandon Gerry Adams if he was convicted by of crime by a jury composed entirely of DUP voters, in a Case brought by a DUP prosecutor, presided over by a judge who donated to a super pac entitled "Stop Sinn Fein".

Interesting

J70

Quote from: whitey on January 20, 2025, 02:33:30 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 20, 2025, 02:16:58 AMYou'd swear Trump didn't have access to elite and hyper-expensive legal representation, including specialist jury selection firms. Or that inhabitants of liberal cities were somehow incapable of impartially deciding the merits of a case.

No doubt the Dems, or more specifically Merrick Garland, fucked up the lawsuits though. The Jan 6th case, by far the most important and damning (along with the case in Atlanta), should have been launched immediately after Biden took office. The Manhattan Stormy Daniels case was trivial in comparison. You can always count on the Dems to dither and fumble about.

I'm sure the judge who made a donation to "Stop Republicans" Super PAC gave Trump a fair shake

And then there's this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/harris-campaign-hired-marketing-firm-run-by-judge-merchans-daughter-ethics-complaint-reveals/amp/


And some are still wondering why 77M people didn't give a $hit about the "felony convictions" when they were in the polling booth


If he didn't get a "fair shake", there should be plenty of grounds for appeal. He's been talking about it since he was convicted in May, but strangely enough hasn't done a thing about it despite running for president.

Did you have an issue with Michael Cohen's conviction for the same shitshow? Trump was happy enough to let him fry on his behalf.