Liam Griffin does not get his wish

youngfella · March 02, 2009, 06:12:10 PM

Ya can watch the game in full on tg4 website, just watched it, fast paced game for march time.

That was wile dirty stroke Prendergast played on eddie, no call for it. The ref really looked after waterford, very one sided in that respect. Eoin kelly also had a swing at tommy walsh with the stick and missed, should be looked into.

I dont like watching dorty teams and its thats the only idea davy has for beating kilkenny, he should reconsider management, before someone gets badly hurt.
Kilkenny are no angels but most of the dirt seems to have left there game in the last few years and they have got there just deserves cleaning up all round them.

orangeman · March 03, 2009, 01:13:46 PM

Quote from: youngfella on March 02, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
Ya can watch the game in full on tg4 website, just watched it, fast paced game for march time.

That was wile dirty stroke Prendergast played on eddie, no call for it. The ref really looked after waterford, very one sided in that respect. Eoin kelly also had a swing at tommy walsh with the stick and missed, should be looked into.

I dont like watching dorty teams and its thats the only idea davy has for beating kilkenny, he should reconsider management, before someone gets badly hurt.
Kilkenny are no angels but most of the dirt seems to have left there game in the last few years and they have got there just deserves cleaning up all round them.

Waterford would have needed that referee last September ! He has been kind to them.

That was my comment on Sunday watching the match live on TG4. Can antone tell me what Brennan has been reported for ? It's still not clear.

bottlethrower7 · March 03, 2009, 01:21:47 PM

Quote from: orangeman on March 03, 2009, 01:13:46 PM
That was my comment on Sunday watching the match live on TG4. Can antone tell me what Brennan has been reported for ? It's still not clear.

Kilkenny are waiting on the report. No one knows yet.

orangeman · March 03, 2009, 06:07:57 PM

Kilkenny attacker Eddie Brennan has requested a personal hearing after the Central Competitions Control Committee proposed a four-week ban following his sending off in the Allianz NHL Division One clash with Waterford last Sunday.

The Irish Times' website is reporting that Waterford have yet to receive a referee's report on the incident which also saw Declan Prendergast sent off after he struck out at Brennan.

The report suggests, however, that the Déise defender could be facing an eight-week suspension after striking Brennan with his hurl at Walsh Park.

Brennan heard of the CCCC's recommendation today and his case is expected to be heard by the Central Hearings Committee (CHC) this week. The minimum ban for a red card is four weeks.

The Graigue-Ballycallan clubman will miss league encounters with Tipperary and Clare if his appeal is not successful.

bottlethrower7 · March 04, 2009, 10:06:53 AM

Quote from: orangeman on March 03, 2009, 06:07:57 PM
Kilkenny attacker Eddie Brennan has requested a personal hearing after the Central Competitions Control Committee proposed a four-week ban following his sending off in the Allianz NHL Division One clash with Waterford last Sunday.

The Irish Times' website is reporting that Waterford have yet to receive a referee's report on the incident which also saw Declan Prendergast sent off after he struck out at Brennan.

The report suggests, however, that the Déise defender could be facing an eight-week suspension after striking Brennan with his hurl at Walsh Park.

Brennan heard of the CCCC's recommendation today and his case is expected to be heard by the Central Hearings Committee (CHC) this week. The minimum ban for a red card is four weeks.

The Graigue-Ballycallan clubman will miss league encounters with Tipperary and Clare if his appeal is not successful.

Kilkenny are playing Galway in a back-match this sunday. They need to get it sorted by then as they're really thing on the ground panel-wise at the moment.

Prendergast should have gotten 6 months. Hopefully common sense prevails and Brennan will be exonerated.

That ref is some tool though. Hopefully he'll never be given another game again.

orangeman · March 04, 2009, 10:32:11 AM

Quote from: bottlethrower7 on March 04, 2009, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 03, 2009, 06:07:57 PM
Kilkenny attacker Eddie Brennan has requested a personal hearing after the Central Competitions Control Committee proposed a four-week ban following his sending off in the Allianz NHL Division One clash with Waterford last Sunday.

The Irish Times' website is reporting that Waterford have yet to receive a referee's report on the incident which also saw Declan Prendergast sent off after he struck out at Brennan.

The report suggests, however, that the Déise defender could be facing an eight-week suspension after striking Brennan with his hurl at Walsh Park.

Brennan heard of the CCCC's recommendation today and his case is expected to be heard by the Central Hearings Committee (CHC) this week. The minimum ban for a red card is four weeks.

The Graigue-Ballycallan clubman will miss league encounters with Tipperary and Clare if his appeal is not successful.

Kilkenny are playing Galway in a back-match this sunday. They need to get it sorted by then as they're really thing on the ground panel-wise at the moment.

Prendergast should have gotten 6 months. Hopefully common sense prevails and Brennan will be exonerated.

That ref is some tool though. Hopefully he'll never be given another game again.

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They reckon he's the reald deal !! One of the up and coming lads. But it wasn't his fault - the umpire got Brennan sent off.

bottlethrower7 · March 04, 2009, 10:56:12 AM

Quote from: orangeman on March 04, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on March 04, 2009, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 03, 2009, 06:07:57 PM
Kilkenny attacker Eddie Brennan has requested a personal hearing after the Central Competitions Control Committee proposed a four-week ban following his sending off in the Allianz NHL Division One clash with Waterford last Sunday.

The Irish Times' website is reporting that Waterford have yet to receive a referee's report on the incident which also saw Declan Prendergast sent off after he struck out at Brennan.

The report suggests, however, that the Déise defender could be facing an eight-week suspension after striking Brennan with his hurl at Walsh Park.

Brennan heard of the CCCC's recommendation today and his case is expected to be heard by the Central Hearings Committee (CHC) this week. The minimum ban for a red card is four weeks.

The Graigue-Ballycallan clubman will miss league encounters with Tipperary and Clare if his appeal is not successful.

Kilkenny are playing Galway in a back-match this sunday. They need to get it sorted by then as they're really thing on the ground panel-wise at the moment.

Prendergast should have gotten 6 months. Hopefully common sense prevails and Brennan will be exonerated.

That ref is some tool though. Hopefully he'll never be given another game again.
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They reckon he's the reald deal !! One of the up and coming lads. But it wasn't his fault - the umpire got Brennan sent off.

yep, I have a certain degree of sympathy. The ref wrote and submitted the report though.

johnneycool · March 04, 2009, 01:44:20 PM

The Waterford version on AFR is that Brennan lashed Prendergast across the chest with the hurley just before the shouldering and subsequent strike by Prendergast and it's reported that's what the umpires told the referee when consulted. If there's any truth in it it'd maybe explain why Eddie got a red from what looked just like a bit of shoulder jostling on his part.

Croí na hÉireann · March 04, 2009, 02:10:26 PM

Haven't seen it reported elsewhere or on here so maybe I'm totally wrong here but my view on the incident was that Prendergast didn't actually make contact with Brennan. Brennan's helmet is out of shot on the main camera and from the other camera the hurley makes a swing past his helmet without any sign of the momentum being impacted. Therefore I think Brennan made a meal of this and dived, the actions of another Waterford fella in telling him to get up would seem to back this up. I would love to think he got the red for diving but as I understand it the appropriate sanction is only a black card. Good to hear Prendergast isn't gonna appeal his suspension anyway as he deserves it for even attempting to strike... Took away from a decent game and you'd fear for Waterford if they come up against KK again this year, Cody will have them well motivated...

bottlethrower7 · March 04, 2009, 03:24:01 PM

Quote from: johnneycool on March 04, 2009, 01:44:20 PM
The Waterford version on AFR is that Brennan lashed Prendergast across the chest with the hurley just before the shouldering and subsequent strike by Prendergast and it's reported that's what the umpires told the referee when consulted. If there's any truth in it it'd maybe explain why Eddie got a red from what looked just like a bit of shoulder jostling on his part.

no, that didn't happen. At no time did Brennan strike Prendergast. He hit him an awkward shoulder, meeting him more in his chest than not. Thats what provoked the reaction.

And Brennan would have been reported for the same offense as Prendergast if that was what the umpires told the ref they saw. That being the case he also would have received an 8-week ban. As it is, he received a 4-week ban for god-knows-what. I can't wait to see what the report says, but it can't have been striking an opponent, as that carries a minimum of 8 weeks.

NAG · March 04, 2009, 03:26:05 PM

Kilkenny have been at the forefront of tough hurling for the last ten years, If you watch their tackling it is verging on a foul nearly every time a player attempts to go past them.

Also if you watch the incident were the yellow cards were handed out, it was a bad Slap by tommy walsh that started the shemuzzle (not his first either) and I dont think think that kelly hot head and all that he is should have taken that from him either and he was right to chastise him for it. The ref should have black carded the two of them and played on.

Bud Wiser · March 05, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

As I said at the start of the thread, it is Davy Fitz's styl of managemnt to get it into the heads of his players that "gettng to know" your marker even before the game starts is what is required if "you want to battle your way into my team". It is a style that is outdated, stupid looking and innefective as it was in The All-Ireland and quite frankly, in that video on You Tube he looked a right tool for his famous oration. Having said that, I admire Fitzy for his contribution to the GAA and hurling in particular.

So, when this 50's style man marking and drawing across players is introduced don't expect the likes of Tommy Walsh to just stand there and take it. It is not part of Codys plan to be more physical but I think the Cats will give as god as they get any day.

NAG · March 05, 2009, 02:58:31 PM

I didnt see kelly drawing across Tommy Walsh as he ghosted passed him with the ball, I did see tommy walsh, slapping him with the hurl. Thats not replying to any sort of dirt that is jsut plain and simple dirt.

Bud Wiser · March 05, 2009, 06:35:07 PM

Maybe Tommy owed it to him for the treatment that was meeted out to him before a ball was thrown in, in last years All-Ireland which Liam Griffin referred to ?

Wheter the stroke on Eddie Brennan connected hard enough or he dived it was, to use a Laois term, a bit Castletownish or Clonadish. !!

deiseach · March 05, 2009, 08:21:59 PM

Quote from: Bud Wiser on March 05, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
Maybe Tommy owed it to him for the treatment that was meeted out to him before a ball was thrown in, in last years All-Ireland which Liam Griffin referred to ?

So that makes it okay? And I'm not being one-eyed or partisan, I think Declan Prendergast will be fierce lucky to only get an eight-week ban. If you pulled across someone with a piece of wood in the streets you'd do well to avoid jail, even if the victim stayed standing. I just don't know why getting vengeance for an act that might have happened six months ago is somehow in a different league.