Selective video evidence

Started by cadhlancian, February 23, 2009, 03:19:50 PM

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Yes I Would

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 23, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
As mentioned earlier I hate the selective use of video evidence. The gaa in many instances seem to enforce suspensions based on reaction by the media. If the incident was in a different game that weekend or by a different player I think there would hardly have been a word about it. Also has a 6 week ban always been there? I thought it was 4 or 8. Think it means McMenamin missing 4 games instead of 1. Bit harsh for a player to miss over 50% of the league due to a moment of madness which was silly rather than dangerous.

Your right, Why give him 6 weeks when they could have given him 8!!  His antics that day constituted more than a moment of madness.
He was acting the ****, once he realised Kerry were in Omagh to have a right good go at them, and being down 10/11 or whatever it was points midway through the half, Ricey's true colours shone through!!

The GAA


4 weeks is the guideline minimum ban. they can give him anything they feel appropriate above that if they wish.
they probably took the calibre of mcmenamin's charachter into account and gave him 6 weeks.

muppet

How would the courts view the incident?
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Tyrone Dreamer

Yes I would and The Gaa I dont think it would be fair for the gaa/or the ref to consider his character or how he behaves in general. They were asked to deal with this particular incident. I dont think it was bad enough for him to miss a 1/3 of the county season and over 50% of the league. It also looks like 1 rule for one player and a different for another, if Paddy Campbell got 4 weeks for the same thing why is Ricey getting 6?

Leo

Abject behaviour from Tyrone Co Board. If this happens in a club game in Tyrone they arte saying it doesnt merit 4 weeks. To me it merits 6 months.
Gross dereliciton of duty to protect our games and abandonment of any set of principles by Tyrone.
Fierce tame altogether

Maguire01

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 23, 2009, 08:02:23 PM
I think the GAA really need to look at the length of bans. I'd say most county players play on average about 12 league and championship games a year. As it stands McMenamin will miss 4 games which is a 3rd of the season for doing something silly. Seems very excessive.

But if the length of the ban isn't a punishment and a deterrent, what is its purpose? It's not supposed to be a minor inconvenience!

mountainboii

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 23, 2009, 09:06:32 PM
Yes I would and The Gaa I dont think it would be fair for the gaa/or the ref to consider his character or how he behaves in general. They were asked to deal with this particular incident. I dont think it was bad enough for him to miss a 1/3 of the county season and over 50% of the league. It also looks like 1 rule for one player and a different for another, if Paddy Campbell got 4 weeks for the same thing why is Ricey getting 6?

Perhaps its because there are no matches in the first 3 weeks of his suspension?

pintsofguinness

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on February 23, 2009, 09:06:32 PM
Yes I would and The Gaa I dont think it would be fair for the gaa/or the ref to consider his character or how he behaves in general. They were asked to deal with this particular incident. I dont think it was bad enough for him to miss a 1/3 of the county season and over 50% of the league. It also looks like 1 rule for one player and a different for another, if Paddy Campbell got 4 weeks for the same thing why is Ricey getting 6?
Course it was, if it was up to me I'd give him 6 months and maybe he wouldnt act the c**k when he returned.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

mountainboii

What are the grounds for his appeal anyway?

Maguire01

Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2009, 09:34:06 PM
if it was up to me I'd give him 6 months and maybe he wouldnt act the c**k when he returned.
...or grab it either. 

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Maguire01

Quote from: AFS on February 23, 2009, 09:40:25 PM
What are the grounds for his appeal anyway?
They don't like the punishment. Simple as.

ardmhachaabu

They are behaving like spoilt children who don't like getting punished.
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Tyrone Dreamer

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Quote from: AFS on February 23, 2009, 09:40:25 PM
What are the grounds for his appeal anyway?

Probably as I mentioned above the fact that the ban is 6 weeks and Tyrone can find an identical incident in the past were the ban was 4 weeks. Unless the gaa can prove they are operating under new rules I think they will find it hard to justify.

Maguire01 a 1 or 2 game ban would still be a punishment. Just think 4 is very long considering the length of the county season. Its ridiculous at this stage that bans are still handed out for periods of time rather than games. Makes no sense.

saffron sam2

Quote from: cadhlancian on February 23, 2009, 03:19:50 PM
While not debating the actuall suspension, I find it hard to take the selective measures taken by Croke Park against certain teams. I fhte same thing had happened in a D3 game, there wouldnt be a word, and dont doubt for a minute that they do take place! But because certain teams are more in the "limelight" than others , they suffer accordingly. How hard would it be to have a tape of all intercounty games and have they reviewed every week( make a few steak eaters from Croker earn their corn for once). P.S No video of the Armagh v Laois game?

Surely Peter Canavan and Stephen O'Neill used video evidence in their defence after the Armagh game in 2005. Should that not have been permitted?

Your point is nonsense. If there is conclusive video evidence then appropriate action should be taken, either suspension or exoneration. If you don't agree, talk to Mickey Harte and ask him to get Tyrone relegated to D3. Problem solved.
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