The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - RIP Diogo

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Captain Obvious

Quote from: supersub on January 06, 2012, 06:11:45 PM
Why would lfc apologise to anyone?
Liverpool football club are bigger than one player & in a season or two that one player will be playing for another club. Should apologise to the genuine supporters how poorly they handled the situation.

J70

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
They have made themselves look ridiculous to be honest.

To come out with this pro Suarez stance, getting all the players to wear the t-shirts etc and then not to appeal has made them look pretty bad.

From day one they should have pleaded cultural differences, got the ban down to a minimum, suarez apologised and left it at that.

Now they have backed him up with their statement and then not backed him up by not appealing. Were it a 2 game ban fair enough but an 8 game one?

Had they let it sit and then appealed on the grounds of cultural differences then the ban would likely have been halved.

What would the basis of a strong appeal be though? Suarez admitted to using the word "negro" and the FA admitted to basing their finding and punishment on deeming Evra's version of events more reliable. It was one man's word against another and they apparently found one more convincing. It wasn't some open and shut sequence captured on camera where the findings and possible appeal would be conclusive and much less subjective. I too think the club could have handled parts of it better, but I'd no problem with them standing behind Suarez or accepting the futility of appealing the verdict once the opinion came out.

J70

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 06, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: supersub on January 06, 2012, 06:11:45 PM
Why would lfc apologise to anyone?
Liverpool football club are bigger than one player & in a season or two that one player will be playing for another club. Should apologise to the genuine supporters how poorly they handled the situation.

If they genuinely believe Suarez' version of events, why would they apologise for supporting him?

Bingo

United, Evra, fergie and anyone else can suck eggs as far as I'm concerned. Some utter shite posted and if this post joins that, so be it. Some of those outraged at this case should review some of their posts on this board over the years, it's hard to see why they are so offended and outraged in this case. Hard to beat mock outrage.


Bingo

It seems sertanta now showing tonight's game. May sure all the kids are in bed to avoid watching the classless racists.

J70

As far as Suarez returning against United, the United fans will abuse him with all their might, but hopefully he comes on as a sub, humiliates a couple of United defenders like he did at Anfield last year and shuts the crowd up. It will be like Neville during the cup game in 2006. He'll just have to get on with it. Hopefully he will have learned his lesson from the Fulham game though! He's been taking plenty of abuse from the crowds all year anyway.


Captain Obvious

Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2012, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 06, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: supersub on January 06, 2012, 06:11:45 PM
Why would lfc apologise to anyone?
Liverpool football club are bigger than one player & in a season or two that one player will be playing for another club. Should apologise to the genuine supporters how poorly they handled the situation.

If they genuinely believe Suarez' version of events, why would they apologise for supporting him?

Supporting him yet Liverpool chose not to appeal it. Someone needs to apologise for those two poorly written statements & silly t-shirt support.


J70

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 06, 2012, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2012, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 06, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: supersub on January 06, 2012, 06:11:45 PM
Why would lfc apologise to anyone?
Liverpool football club are bigger than one player & in a season or two that one player will be playing for another club. Should apologise to the genuine supporters how poorly they handled the situation.

If they genuinely believe Suarez' version of events, why would they apologise for supporting him?

Supporting him yet Liverpool chose not to appeal it. Someone needs to apologise for those two poorly written statements & silly t-shirt support.

Sometimes you have to know when to quit. If they couldn't see a way of overturning the verdict based on how the FA arrived at it, what would the point be? That in itself doesn't make their stance wrong.

T-shirt support was fine in my view. Some parts of the statements left a bit to be desired.

supersub

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imtommygunn

Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2012, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
They have made themselves look ridiculous to be honest.

To come out with this pro Suarez stance, getting all the players to wear the t-shirts etc and then not to appeal has made them look pretty bad.

From day one they should have pleaded cultural differences, got the ban down to a minimum, suarez apologised and left it at that.

Now they have backed him up with their statement and then not backed him up by not appealing. Were it a 2 game ban fair enough but an 8 game one?

Had they let it sit and then appealed on the grounds of cultural differences then the ban would likely have been halved.

What would the basis of a strong appeal be though? Suarez admitted to using the word "negro" and the FA admitted to basing their finding and punishment on deeming Evra's version of events more reliable. It was one man's word against another and they apparently found one more convincing. It wasn't some open and shut sequence captured on camera where the findings and possible appeal would be conclusive and much less subjective. I too think the club could have handled parts of it better, but I'd no problem with them standing behind Suarez or accepting the futility of appealing the verdict once the opinion came out.

People keep saying it was one mans word over another. If Suarez admitted to using the word negro then he signed his own death warrant.

If Liverpool had complete belief in  him then I believe they should have appealed. Irrespective if it were futile or not - if they believe in Suarez they should be doing everything they can to defend him. By not doing so they are giving up.

I believe the whole thing has been blown out of proportion and could have been handled a lot better by Suarez, by Liverpool and by Evra anyway. He should have got a 2 game ban and apologised and that would have been that.

In my view the club has made themselves look really bad.


J70

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2012, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 06, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
They have made themselves look ridiculous to be honest.

To come out with this pro Suarez stance, getting all the players to wear the t-shirts etc and then not to appeal has made them look pretty bad.

From day one they should have pleaded cultural differences, got the ban down to a minimum, suarez apologised and left it at that.

Now they have backed him up with their statement and then not backed him up by not appealing. Were it a 2 game ban fair enough but an 8 game one?

Had they let it sit and then appealed on the grounds of cultural differences then the ban would likely have been halved.

What would the basis of a strong appeal be though? Suarez admitted to using the word "negro" and the FA admitted to basing their finding and punishment on deeming Evra's version of events more reliable. It was one man's word against another and they apparently found one more convincing. It wasn't some open and shut sequence captured on camera where the findings and possible appeal would be conclusive and much less subjective. I too think the club could have handled parts of it better, but I'd no problem with them standing behind Suarez or accepting the futility of appealing the verdict once the opinion came out.

People keep saying it was one mans word over another. If Suarez admitted to using the word negro then he signed his own death warrant.

If Liverpool had complete belief in  him then I believe they should have appealed. Irrespective if it were futile or not - if they believe in Suarez they should be doing everything they can to defend him. By not doing so they are giving up.

I believe the whole thing has been blown out of proportion and could have been handled a lot better by Suarez, by Liverpool and by Evra anyway. He should have got a 2 game ban and apologised and that would have been that.

In my view the club has made themselves look really bad.

By appealing they risked an even stiffer penalty if they lost. It would have been madness to embark on what they considered a futile appeal.

The rest has been debated to death at this stage.

Captain Obvious

20 minutes gone 0-0 mid table league one side the better team.

Captain Obvious