Mickey Harte joins the Irish News

Started by GrandMasterFlash, February 02, 2009, 08:08:04 AM

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SidelineKick

I wonder what Mickey Harte made of the whole Peter Canavan / God thing and the playing of matches on Sundays.

You shall have no other Gods but me.
You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.

He's broken / breaking 4 of the 10 commandments  :o
"If you want to box, say you want to box and we'll box"

Reported.

Zulu

I think some of Mickey's opinion pieces have been weak enough but I agree with a lot of that one, the handpass is unfairly derided and he is bang on to suggest that games of the past should be compared to the games of today for an accurate comparison to be made. In fact the Sunday Game could do worse than getting data for a number areas. e.g. points from 35 yrds+, frees, wides, time of ball in play etc. so that we might get some factual analysis rather than Spillane rabbitting on about some golden age of football.

SidelineKick

I have to say, although a little confused at a stage, I thoroughly enjoyed and support Mickey's suggestion a few weeks ago that league positions should determine who plays who in the championship.  Good incentive right to the end!
"If you want to box, say you want to box and we'll box"

Reported.

talktothehand

he is right on the hand pass debate. anyone see that kerry teal throwing the ball into the net in the 1970s. now that reallywasn't gaelic football!!

Fuzzman

I hope Brolly is back in the chair this Sunday to continue questioning the Spillane rant.
Loved it 2 weeks ago when even O'Rourke agreed and said he was the best player ever & nobody can kick the ball any more.

Did any of ye notice last Sunday how Spillane tried to give Tyrone some credit for their style of football. Was wondering would he have admitted it in Brolly's presence?

I'd Joe can't wait for the Cork match and will latch onto anything Kerry do out of line. I hope he doesn't go over the top or be comparing everything to the Derry match.

A lot of Derry lads on here seem to have a fondness for Fr Harte.

rrhf

#605
For anyone doubting the ruthless nature of Mickey Harte he answered today in fine style.  With a mere 1000 words he has rendered Pat Spillane obsolete.  Indeed it would be a shock to see his delicate features as an anal yst on RTE sport again.  By the way for all those who crow about the amount of handpassing in the modern game see Donegal 92.  A learned student of the game more statisticly inclined than myself actually took one of the videos of the  so called classic Dublin kerry games and compared it to Tyrone Armagh one of the 05 games.  To his own surprise there was a significantly higher number of handpasses in the older game - why cant one of these modern day experts simply do the same.   That basically means we have been listening to a pile of manure from Spillane since 2003,  for whatever his agenda is.  We have been Pat Spillanes herd of sheep for 6 years without challenging him.  I cant believe we took him so seriously. 

RMDrive

Quote from: rrhf on June 05, 2009, 03:29:09 PM
For anyone doubting the ruthless nature of Mickey Harte he answered today in fine style.  With a mere 1000 words he has rendered Pat Spillane obsolete.  Indeed it would be a shock to see his delicate features as an anal yst on RTE sport again.  By the way for all those who crow about the amount of handpassing in the modern game see Donegal 92.  A learned student of the game more statisticly inclined than myself actually took one of the videos of the  so called classic Dublin kerry games and compared it to Tyrone Armagh one of the 05 games.  To his own surprise there was a significantly higher number of handpasses in the older game - why cant one of these modern day experts simply do the same.   That basically means we have been listening to a pile of manure from Spillane since 2003, for whatever his agenda is. 

Not the best example in fairness.

longrunsthefox

Quote from: rrhf on June 05, 2009, 03:29:09 PM
For anyone doubting the ruthless nature of Mickey Harte he answered today in fine style.  With a mere 1000 words he has rendered Pat Spillane obsolete.  Indeed it would be a shock to see his delicate features as an anal yst on RTE sport again.  By the way for all those who crow about the amount of handpassing in the modern game see Donegal 92.  A learned student of the game more statisticly inclined than myself actually took one of the videos of the  so called classic Dublin kerry games and compared it to Tyrone Armagh one of the 05 games.  To his own surprise there was a significantly higher number of handpasses in the older game - why cant one of these modern day experts simply do the same.   That basically means we have been listening to a pile of manure from Spillane since 2003,  for whatever his agenda is.  We have been Pat Spillanes herd of sheep for 6 years without challenging him.  I cant believe we took him so seriously. 

It is obvious what his agenda is... partitionist .. those bloody northerners...

Fear ón Srath Bán

One of the most vivid footballing memories I have is of Pat 'PalmTheBall' Spillane, and his palmed goal in the '86 AI Final against Tyrone, which signalled the Kingdom's comeback. The sacrilege of it all!
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Main Street

The great leader wrote

'While even they agree that it could not be scrapped altogether, they are encouraging a limit of one handpass and then an obligatory kick to follow. This would make for a much worse spectacle as players would be forced to use a kick pass when another handpass would be more appropriate.
We would then be exposed to players kicking the ball four and five metres to their team-mates simply because they received a handpass'.


I don't see that scenario happening because players would surely be allowed to fist the ball,
just like in the manly days.


ONeill

Mickey's spot on although we've been agreeing on this for a few years on here.

Apparently next week's article is something to do with horse balls and onions.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Mike Sheehy

#611
QuoteDespite the fact that handpassing was rampant – indeed it was legitimate to handpass (throw) goals at that time –there was never any such adverse interpretations of this style proffered by the pundits or sports journalists of the day.

While the anti-handpassing proponents regularly furnish us with 'damning' statistics of the amount of handpasses versus kick passes in a modern day game of football, the 'Golden Years' are exempt from such scrutiny.

Perfect example to show why Harte (and most of you Nordies) are liars of the highest order. The amount of whinging about the handpass score at the time was unreal. Most of it coming from Ulster teams who kept getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Dublin. It reached its highest pitch after the '79 semi-final.

The handpass goal was then banned. Now, I dont mind too much that the rule was changed but the fact that it was changed due to whinging by counties who were in the pub when Micko and the boys were running the dunes of banna strand was what made it such a disgraceful decision at the time. Basically, two teams were penalized for putting in the effort and excelling. Ulster just wanted to drag us down to their level instead of trying to improve.

And now, unfortunately, they have literally dragged Gaelic football down to their level with their shirt pulling, swarm defence and general loutishness. Thankfully our suberb discipline and positive play during the league indicates that JOC wants to ensure that at least one team will shine the beacon for Gaelic Football.

Mike Sheehy

QuoteIt is obvious what his agenda is... partitionist .. those bloody northerners...

You lot would always be the East Germany of any reunification....you would just drag us down.

ExiledGael

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 05, 2009, 08:23:45 PM
QuoteDespite the fact that handpassing was rampant – indeed it was legitimate to handpass (throw) goals at that time –there was never any such adverse interpretations of this style proffered by the pundits or sports journalists of the day.

While the anti-handpassing proponents regularly furnish us with 'damning' statistics of the amount of handpasses versus kick passes in a modern day game of football, the 'Golden Years' are exempt from such scrutiny.

Perfect example to show why Harte (and most of you Nordies) are liars of the highest order. The amount of whinging about the handpass score at the time was unreal. Most of it coming from Ulster teams who kept getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Dublin. It reached its highest pitch after the '79 semi-final.

The handpass goal was then banned. Now, I dont mind too much that the rule was changed but the fact that it was changed due to whinging by counties who were in the pub when Micko and the boys were running the dunes of banna strand was what made it such a disgraceful decision at the time. Basically, two teams were penalized for putting in the effort and excelling. Ulster just wanted to drag us down to their level instead of trying to improve.

And now, unfortunately, they have literally dragged Gaelic football down to their level with their shirt pulling, swarm defence and general loutishness. Thankfully our suberb discipline and positive play during the league indicates that JOC wants to ensure that at least one team will shine the beacon for Gaelic Football.

:D
You're priceless Sheehy. What pub is this you refer to?
All you've got is shirt pulling, extra defenders and general loutishness?

tyronefan

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on June 05, 2009, 08:23:45 PM
QuoteDespite the fact that handpassing was rampant – indeed it was legitimate to handpass (throw) goals at that time –there was never any such adverse interpretations of this style proffered by the pundits or sports journalists of the day.

While the anti-handpassing proponents regularly furnish us with 'damning' statistics of the amount of handpasses versus kick passes in a modern day game of football, the 'Golden Years' are exempt from such scrutiny.

Perfect example to show why Harte (and most of you Nordies) are liars of the highest order. The amount of whinging about the handpass score at the time was unreal. Most of it coming from Ulster teams who kept getting their arses handed to them by Kerry and Dublin. It reached its highest pitch after the '79 semi-final.

The handpass goal was then banned. Now, I dont mind too much that the rule was changed but the fact that it was changed due to whinging by counties who were in the pub when Micko and the boys were running the dunes of banna strand was what made it such a disgraceful decision at the time. Basically, two teams were penalized for putting in the effort and excelling. Ulster just wanted to drag us down to their level instead of trying to improve.

And now, unfortunately, they have literally dragged Gaelic football down to their level with their shirt pulling, swarm defence and general loutishness. Thankfully our suberb discipline and positive play during the league indicates that JOC wants to ensure that at least one team will shine the beacon for Gaelic Football.

Kerry would know all about swarm  defence   Spillane  played most of his football on the half back line when he was supposed to be in at full forward

amazing how you kerry wans remember the good old days to suit yourselves