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[Norf Tyrone]

gerard didn't even get a card, and lampard gets send off after getting fouled be alonso. Mike Riley should quit

Yes, because the referee gets the benefit of slow motion replays in making a decision...

In real time, it looked a bad tackle by Lampard, especially as he dived in with his foot up and Alonso went flying afterwards. The referee gets only one look. People either have to accept that these type of wrong decisions are inevitable or change the game to allow the ref to stop things and get some help from replays.

I know what you're saying J70, but at the time I thought Lampard made a well executed tackle, so expect the ref to see the same or similar. The big problem for me is inconsistancy, and without wanting to appear persecuted Chelsea have been on the wrong end of these 'tackle' decisions a lot recently. That's Lampard's 3rd red card in 10 months, and twice he has won on appeal. The other occassion was a CL tie where he recieved two unjust/ harsh yellows therefore could not appeal. Terry has already been red carded twice this season. Again, an appeal has seen one quashed, and the other was 50/50 for a hard tackle.
However I have seen numerous 'harder' tackles by Manc, Scouse players et others since with no punishment. Gerard's the latest on Sunday.

In addition it took Riley 2 seconds to produce the red card on Sunday. He almost had his mind made up as the tackle went in. Is there any harm, stopping for a second, asking the linos for a perspective, and then making a decision. It also takes the heat out of the moment.

Lastly. Respect. People say that the catalyst for this campaign was Chelsea's 'attitude' and I can lead a bit to this argument. In fairness, Chelsea's behaviour to refs has improved this season, but they are now getting a rougher end of the stick. Coincidence? One of the elemants of respect was that the captain is allowed to talk to a ref, and get an explanation. Terry went to the ref post Lampard's red and.... was booked.

Riley gave a free against Gerrard, who clearly told him to 'f**k off' and was he booked..... no.

However the main problem with this Riley caper, is that it gives Uncle Phil and the players an excuse for what was a poor performance regardless.

[nifan]

However I have seen numerous 'harder' tackles by Manc, Scouse players et others since with no punishment.

Did you not see any by chelsea players in that time that merited red?
terrys got away with a few decisions, as has Mikel.

[under the bar]

Did you not see any by chelsea players in that time that merited red?
terrys got away with a few decisions, as has Mikel.

Terry gets away with numerous yellows, reds & penaltys that should be awarded against him cos he's England Captain.   Of course any red cards that a silly refs  do give him get rescinded by the FA, just like when Alan Shearer got his rescinded for deliberately booting Neil Lennon in the face.  You DO NOT send of the England captain.   

Gerrard on the other hand is exempt from red cards. He can launch himself studs first into a tackle, attempt to break ankles, blatantly dive etc but will not be shown red. 

[Minder]

Did you not see any by chelsea players in that time that merited red?
terrys got away with a few decisions, as has Mikel.

Terry gets away with numerous yellows, reds & penaltys that should be awarded against him cos he's England Captain.   Of course any red cards that a silly refs  do give him get rescinded by the FA, just like when Alan Shearer got his rescinded for deliberately booting Neil Lennon in the face.  You DO NOT send of the England captain.   

Gerrard on the other hand is exempt from red cards. He can launch himself studs first into a tackle, attempt to break ankles, blatantly dive etc but will not be shown red. 

If you are going to clean up the game be sure to give it an even hand and mention Master Rooney.

[Norf Tyrone]

However I have seen numerous 'harder' tackles by Manc, Scouse players et others since with no punishment.

Did you not see any by chelsea players in that time that merited red?
terrys got away with a few decisions, as has Mikel.

Again... you have not come out and said that Gerard was lucky. Instead the line that Terry and Mikel have got away with a few. Have they? Mikel has been told to avoid diving in this year, as he was getting booked/ red carded every second challenge last season, so he has actually been fairly well behaved recently. You need to reread that post of mine. I already said Terry got booked on Sunday, and red carded a few weeks back. So no. They don't get away with it.

Gerrard on the other hand is exempt from red cards. He can launch himself studs first into a tackle, attempt to break ankles, blatantly dive etc but will not be shown red.

That could've read Rooney on the other hand is exempt from red cards. He can launch himself studs first into a tackle, attempt to break ankles, blatantly dive etc but will not be shown red.

[nifan]

Again... you have not come out and said that Gerard was lucky. Instead the line that Terry and Mikel have got away with a few. Have they? Mikel has been told to avoid diving in this year, as he was getting booked/ red carded every second challenge last season, so he has actually been fairly well behaved recently. You need to reread that post of mine. I already said Terry got booked on Sunday, and red carded a few weeks back. So no. They don't get away with it.

Gerrard was lucky.

Terry was lucky not to give away a penalty.
Bosingwa got away with one of the most outrages fouls seen in some time. If he was a scouse hed have been off

[Norf Tyrone]

Again... you have not come out and said that Gerard was lucky. Instead the line that Terry and Mikel have got away with a few. Have they? Mikel has been told to avoid diving in this year, as he was getting booked/ red carded every second challenge last season, so he has actually been fairly well behaved recently. You need to reread that post of mine. I already said Terry got booked on Sunday, and red carded a few weeks back. So no. They don't get away with it.

Gerrard was lucky.

Terry was lucky not to give away a penalty.
Bosingwa got away with one of the most outrages fouls seen in some time. If he was a scouse hed have been off

Come on.... That was a clear case of obstruction by Benayoun.

[Norf Tyrone]

Again... you have not come out and said that Gerard was lucky. Instead the line that Terry and Mikel have got away with a few. Have they? Mikel has been told to avoid diving in this year, as he was getting booked/ red carded every second challenge last season, so he has actually been fairly well behaved recently. You need to reread that post of mine. I already said Terry got booked on Sunday, and red carded a few weeks back. So no. They don't get away with it.

Gerrard was lucky.

Terry was lucky not to give away a penalty.
Bosingwa got away with one of the most outrages fouls seen in some time. If he was a scouse hed have been off

Come on.... That was a clear case of obstruction by Benayoun.

I am joking by the way. Of course he should've been roaded, but at that stage I think Riley was gamely trying to level up the f**k ups. It would've been irrelevant anyhow reding him at that point.

[anportmorforjfc]

you all just can't take that united are top now. So think of another way to get at united. Gerrard gets away with far more tackles than any other premiership player.

[anportmorforjfc]

Again... you have not come out and said that Gerard was lucky. Instead the line that Terry and Mikel have got away with a few. Have they? Mikel has been told to avoid diving in this year, as he was getting booked/ red carded every second challenge last season, so he has actually been fairly well behaved recently. You need to reread that post of mine. I already said Terry got booked on Sunday, and red carded a few weeks back. So no. They don't get away with it.

Gerrard was lucky.

Terry was lucky not to give away a penalty.
Bosingwa got away with one of the most outrages fouls seen in some time. If he was a scouse hed have been off

Not a chance, the game was at anfield

[nifan]

It would've been irrelevant anyhow reding him at that point.

A 3 match ban for violent conduct would not be irrelevant.

[Minder]

you all just can't take that united are top now. So think of another way to get at united. Gerrard gets away with far more tackles than any other premiership player.

I dont think i have heard an "argument" like that since about P6............

[nifan]

Gerrard gets away with far more tackles than any other premiership player.

are tackles illegal now?

[anportmorforjfc]

Gerrard gets away with far more tackles than any other premiership player.

are tackles illegal now?

i meant fouls

[Norf Tyrone]

It would've been irrelevant anyhow reding him at that point.

A 3 match ban for violent conduct would not be irrelevant.

In the context of the game it was irrelevant. A 3 game ban would've done little harm too. He has been heartless for weeks, however in his defence he probably needs a winger to help him.

you all just can't take that united are top now. So think of another way to get at united. Gerrard gets away with far more tackles than any other premiership player.

The snow must be really bad up there if the schools are closed.