The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

Started by Gabriel_Hurl, November 09, 2006, 10:52:45 PM

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brokencrossbar1

Fair enough O'Neill history has shown he has scored goals every where he has played, and hopefully in a better team he will score even more goals.  Also he is a clever second striker and i think he will play as a good foil off Torres.  

LL I think Skertel and Agger will be the first choice CB pairing for a lot of games.  Carra will play his fair share in the middle but will also play a lot at RB.  

The Real Laoislad

I have no idea if this is real or if its someone taking the piss but it was linked from the Lfc.tv website

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ONeill

Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
What a shit buy and speaks volumes for the fall from grace of Liverpool since the 80s. Ramos must be laughing all the way down White Hart Lane. Keane is not the sort of player big sides invest in. He will not win Liverpool the title. If Arsenal can't win it (and probably won't) I'd like to see the Scousers do it but with buys like this, kiss it goodbye. Crouch would've given you value for money.

your so right we should have bought aaron ramsey!! ha ha another theo walcott me thinks , expensive carling cup player

Again,nothing to do with Liverpool buying Keane. Stick to the topic man.

As for scoring goals, I'm not so sure. He scored 13 for Leeds in 46 games. He scored 12 for Coventry in 34. He scored none for Inter in 6 games. He's not a prolific striker.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Yes I Would

Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
What a shit buy and speaks volumes for the fall from grace of Liverpool since the 80s. Ramos must be laughing all the way down White Hart Lane. Keane is not the sort of player big sides invest in. He will not win Liverpool the title. If Arsenal can't win it (and probably won't) I'd like to see the Scousers do it but with buys like this, kiss it goodbye. Crouch would've given you value for money.

your so right we should have bought aaron ramsey!! ha ha another theo walcott me thinks , expensive carling cup player

Again,nothing to do with Liverpool buying Keane. Stick to the topic man.

As for scoring goals, I'm not so sure. He scored 13 for Leeds in 46 games. He scored 12 for Coventry in 34. He scored none for Inter in 6 games. He's not a prolific striker.

No but Fernando is, and id safely say that Keane will bag 15-20 if he can stay clear of injury.

ONeill

Well, tis your side - all I'll say is that I believe you haven't strengthened the side by losing Crouch and signing Keane. I thought Benitez would've went for a world class striker.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

stiff breeze

Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
What a shit buy and speaks volumes for the fall from grace of Liverpool since the 80s. Ramos must be laughing all the way down White Hart Lane. Keane is not the sort of player big sides invest in. He will not win Liverpool the title. If Arsenal can't win it (and probably won't) I'd like to see the Scousers do it but with buys like this, kiss it goodbye. Crouch would've given you value for money.

your so right we should have bought aaron ramsey!! ha ha another theo walcott me thinks , expensive carling cup player

Again,nothing to do with Liverpool buying Keane. Stick to the topic man.

As for scoring goals, I'm not so sure. He scored 13 for Leeds in 46 games. He scored 12 for Coventry in 34. He scored none for Inter in 6 games. He's not a prolific striker.

just a few snippets to prove what a mooron you are


2003 16 goals for spurs
2004 17 goals
2005 16 goals
2006 22 goals the highest ever season tally of his career - scoring 15 goals in his last 15 appearances of the season.
On December 26, 2007, he became only the 13th player in the history of the league to score 100 Premiership goals.
2007 proved to be a remarkable year for the striker with a total of 31 goals and 13 assists from just 40 starts. His tally of 19 league goals in the calendar year was the highest of any player in the Premier League throughout 2007

not prolific you say!!!?? twat

now pipe down

brokencrossbar1

If you take recent form, say from 2004 he scored a goal in just over 2 games for Spurs and Ireland.  I think that is fairly consistent.  He has scored 169 goals in 443 club games and 33 in 81 internationals.  Compared to Henry for instance their strike rate is Keane 1 goal every 2.5 games, Henry 1 every 2.2 games(675 gamesclub and internatiol, 325 goals).  It is accepted that Henry has been the orlds top striker of recent years so therefore Keane's record looks favourable enough against that.  Also given the fact that he is not always the number 1 striker it is even better return.

I think he will be a very good aqcquisition and will take pressure off Torres in what is going to be a very difficult second season for him with so much expectation now landing on his lap.

ONeill

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Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 11:16:09 PM

2003 16 goals for spurs
2004 17 goals
2005 16 goals
2006 22 goals the highest ever season tally of his career - scoring 15 goals in his last 15 appearances of the season.
On December 26, 2007, he became only the 13th player in the history of the league to score 100 Premiership goals.
2007 proved to be a remarkable year for the striker with a total of 31 goals and 13 assists from just 40 starts. His tally of 19 league goals in the calendar year was the highest of any player in the Premier League throughout 2007

not prolific you say!!!?? t**t

now pipe down

Those figures are poor for a striker who was Spurs No.1 man. He actually only scored 11 from 35 league games in 04/05, 16 from 36 in 05/06, 11 from 27 in 06/07 and 15 from 36 in 07/08 with Berbatov setting them on a plate. Keane's miss rate was atrocious and his inability to put away more than half the chances Spurs were creating then was the main reason they never reached the CL positions. Liverpool couldn't care less about FA Cup/Carling Cup/UEFA Cup goals against mostly crap opposition. It's the week-in-week-out league totals that count. Mark my words, you'll be cursing this fella by Halloween.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

stiff breeze

Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 11:16:09 PM

2003 16 goals for spurs
2004 17 goals
2005 16 goals
2006 22 goals the highest ever season tally of his career - scoring 15 goals in his last 15 appearances of the season.
On December 26, 2007, he became only the 13th player in the history of the league to score 100 Premiership goals.
2007 proved to be a remarkable year for the striker with a total of 31 goals and 13 assists from just 40 starts. His tally of 19 league goals in the calendar year was the highest of any player in the Premier League throughout 2007

not prolific you say!!!?? t**t

now pipe down

Those figures are poor for a striker who was Spurs No.1 man. He actually only scored 11 from 35 league games in 04/05, 16 from 36 in 05/06, 11 from 27 in 06/07 and 15 from 36 in 07/08 with Berbatov setting them on a plate. Keane's miss rate was atrocious and his inability to put away more than half the chances Spurs were creating then was the main reason they never reached the CL positions. Liverpool couldn't care less about FA Cup/Carling Cup/UEFA Cup goals against mostly crap opposition. It's the week-in-week-out league totals that count. Mark my words, you'll be cursing this fella by Halloween.

delighted with the signing myself. We shall see who does better this year, keane or nasri.

ONeill

If you want to. Nothing to do with this.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 11:04:06 PM
Quote from: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 10:40:57 PM
What a shit buy and speaks volumes for the fall from grace of Liverpool since the 80s. Ramos must be laughing all the way down White Hart Lane. Keane is not the sort of player big sides invest in. He will not win Liverpool the title. If Arsenal can't win it (and probably won't) I'd like to see the Scousers do it but with buys like this, kiss it goodbye. Crouch would've given you value for money.

your so right we should have bought aaron ramsey!! ha ha another theo walcott me thinks , expensive carling cup player

Again,nothing to do with Liverpool buying Keane. Stick to the topic man.

As for scoring goals, I'm not so sure. He scored 13 for Leeds in 46 games. He scored 12 for Coventry in 34. He scored none for Inter in 6 games. He's not a prolific striker.

Last three seasons for Spurs

Games 54 Goals 23
Games 44 Goals 22
Games 38 Goals 16

That's a fraction under a goal every two games which is pretty good going by any standards unless you're going to argue that a goal every two games is not good which would be plain crazy.

If he manages anything close to that as the second striker at Liverpool behind Torres I don't think many will be complaining.

ONeill

Again, you're including the crap he was up against in the Uefa and Carling - competitions none of the top players compete in.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 11:54:32 PM
Again, you're including the crap he was up against in the Uefa and Carling - competitions none of the top players compete in.

Again I believe his record in the league is something like 80 goals in 197 games (and that includes games where he came on as a sub). So that works out as a goal every 2.3 games or something which is still very good. Not exceptional but very good all the same. Exceptional being a goal in under 2 games which not very many strikers have managed in recent years. I would say only Henry and Van Nistelrooy.

Indeed Berbatov has scored 27 league goals in 69 games since he's been at Spurs. In the same time Keane has scored 26 in 63 games.

Whatever way it's cut his goal scoring record is very good. Not exceptional as I said but definitely good.

Either way we're not expecting him to put in Torres numbers of goals. We already have Torres to do that. Keane will just chip in with his fair share which will ease to pressure a bit on Torres and Gerrard.

Niall Quinn

I kind of agree with O'Neill in that I don't see much incremental value over Crouch.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing him light up Anfield with Torres, but I have visions of us trying to off load an aging book value after a nothing year.
Back to the howling old owl in the woods, hunting the horny back toad

GalwayBayBoy

Keane has a far better goal scoring record than Crouch who only scored 22 league goals in 80 games for Liverpool in three seasons. A goal every 4 games. Fair enough he was sub quite a bit especially last season but that is not a good record and I liked Crouch.

Sold him for 11 million and bought Keane for 20 (who importantly is more versatile than the big man). An outlay of 9 million for Keane. Everyone's happy.