The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

[EC Unique]

I know Hound, was just agreeing with reputations an big tournaments.

Minder how is he a tube?

I just think he is overvalued, over rated and the money could be spent better elsewhere, to be precise a right winger or creative midfielder.

He is an England player playing in England hence the over valuation..

[Minder]

I agree E C but i dont think Liverpool should pay that amount,surely there is better value on the continent

[bingobus]

Going on the last two seasons form i'd take Barry ahead of Alonso

Agreed. I like Alonso and he does a massive amount of work for the team but his role of playmaker has not flourished as expected. He keeps things ticking over in midfield but the last couple of seasons has seen his assist count drop and his passing has become laboured at times and messy in other cases. This has affected his confidence.

Barry is much more aggressive round the box with his passing and shooting plus is prob more versitile that Alonso. Porb not much to choose but I think if its a straight swap or close to it, I'd take Barry at present.

English players are valued at their standard fee plus a International cap levy plus VAT at 17.5% hence they are dearer than Johnny Foreinger    

[Hound]

The fact that Degen has been benched for the two Swiss games isnt filling me with confidence that he'll be an improvement on Arbeloa and Finnan.

[stevo-08]

The fact that Degen has been benched for the two Swiss games isnt filling me with confidence that he'll be an improvement on Arbeloa and Finnan.

Was thinking the exact same Hound.

Anyone know the story with Agger. If he comes back fully fit, maybe we'll see more of carragher at rb. Dont know if thats such a good thing.

[Hound]

I think a big decision Rafa will have to make next season will be leaving Carra out of big games. If Agger makes a full recovery (always a doubt when you miss a full season) and Skrtel develops as he should with more experience of English football, then they should be our best pairing.

I would be very slow (pardon the pun!) to play Carra at right back other than in emergency cases.

[gawa316]

I think Degen was out injured for the finish to the domestic season, therefore he was not deemed to be match fit for the swiss.

As for leaving Carra out...get real. He is by far our best leader at the back. He gives every thing for Liverpool and actually complements Agger perfectly. Skertal's (Sp?) day will come but not at the expense of Carra at centre back next season

[corn02]

Madness Hound.

[stevo-08]

Lads, I'd have to agree, to a certain extent, with Hound. On last seasons form, Carragher might struggle to keep his place in the centre if Agger makes a full recovery.

Yes, he's a die hard Liverpool man and nobody has a more heart & courage than him. But he's definitely lost a yard of pace and struggled with his form. The only thing I can say in his defence is that for the first half of the season he had Hyypia as a regular partner (& even Hobbs for one game) so he was really carrying the defence on his own. With Skrtel now settled in, and hopefully a fully fit Agger, there'll be less weight on Carragher's shoulders.

Agger has had a full season on the physio bench so there's no doubt Carragher will start the season beside Skrtel. But as Agger gets his sharpness back, there'll be serious competition for the centre back positions. And thats good news.

[corn02]

Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. Four certanties on the team sheet each week, and rightly so.

[stiffler]

Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. Four certanties on the team sheet each week, and rightly so.

Add Mascherano to that list.

[corn02]

Was thinking that, but you know Rafa and his systems.

[stevo-08]

Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. Four certanties on the team sheet each week, and rightly so.

Add Mascherano to that list.

Stiffler, Corn,
With everyone fully fit, what would your starting backline be? (you can exclude degen as nobody has a monkey's what he's like)

[Minder]

Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and Torres. Four certanties on the team sheet each week, and rightly so.

Add Mascherano to that list.

......and Voronin

[el_cuervo_fc]

Rafa wants Spanish Villa with Pool

Rafael Benitez reportedly wants to pair David Villa with Fernando Torres in Liverpool's attack - but has been warned he won't come cheap.

Villa combined with Torres to devastating effect with a hat-trick in Spain's 4-1 demolition of Russia in their opening Euro 2008 fixture on Tuesday.
And Reds boss Benitez is keen to see the pair wreak similar havoc on Premier League defences next season.
Torres took to England's top flight like a fish to water after moving from Atletico Madrid for £27million last summer - and Valencia director Juan Sanchez admits Villa's price tag will rise with every goal he scores at Euro 2008.
Villa looks destined to leave Los Che this summer, as the Primera Liga side's financial worries dictate that they will be required to reluctantly part with their biggest assets.
Villa certainly tops the list in the Mestalla sale and new Valencia boss Unai Emery can expect a busy close season as he sets about reshuffling his pack.
His star striker is valued in the region of around £17million, but that figure could rocket if he continues his electric form in Austria and Switzerland.
Villa's current employers are prepared to sit out a bidding war, with Sanchez revealing that the club will bide their time before deciding on the player's worth.
"He has a contract and is having a great Euro," the Spanish director said in The Sun. "We are calm and we hope he will continue to score many goals. You never know what will happen if we get offers.
"It's not a question of putting a price on him.
"What will come in the future will be assessed then."
Chelsea and Barcelona have also been linked with Villa, but it remains to be seen whether the Blues' interest will continue following the announcement that Luiz Felipe Scolari is set to become their new boss.
However, despite the growing speculation surrounding his future, the talented forward is refusing to be drawn on the issue until after Euro 2008.
"I'm not going to speak about my future until after the Championships," he insisted.