The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

corn02 · February 03, 2009, 10:17:35 AM

Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 03, 2009, 10:10:17 AM
The fee paid for Keane by Spurs is less than £10 million. Apparently Spus would have to announce any fee's over that margin to the stock exchange!

That is worng. It was £12 million initially, that has been reported widely.

Hound · February 03, 2009, 10:19:44 AM

Will his loan spell be cut short......
Is he on his way back .....

isourboydownyet · February 03, 2009, 10:32:21 AM

i wouldnt joke about it

isourboydownyet · February 03, 2009, 10:50:24 AM

Outspoken Voronin targets Liverpool return as he's too big for Berlin
By WILLIAM STEWART

Ukranian striker Andriy Voronin has revealed he dreams of returning to Liverpool after being farmed out on loan to German side Hertha Berlin.
The outspoken striker, who earlier this year launched an attack on Britain and Liverpool, claims being a big star in Berlin is not enough and he wants to link up with Steven Gerrard again at Anfield.
He told Pro Sport magazine in Russia: 'It's an absolutely different level of football.
'I'm a leader at Hertha and feel their fans love me but I would like to be a leader in a team which is always fighting to win the Premier League, the Champions League and which have such people playing for them as Steven Gerrard who is a symbol of the city like the Beatles.
'I see no sense in staying in Berlin saying to myself: 'OK, everyone loves me here, why do I need to play for Livepool?'
'I'd really like a new start there. I have a contract with them for two more years. When I joined Liverpool I knew I could play at such a high level and think I proved it. The rotation of the squad by Benitez really enraged me, but he told me from the start about that and I should have been prepared for it.'
Voronin's claims, after several months at Hertha on loan, are in stark contrast to comments he made in April, when he savaged Liverpool and life in Britain.
Back then he condemned the UK as a cultural backwater with poor health care and high crime rate.
Although his 24-year-old wife Yulia was named the worst-dressed soccer WAG after wearing a leopard-print velour tracksuit, he said Britain was far less sophisticated than Germany.

Voronin, who moved to Liverpool from Bayer Leverkusen in Germany at the beginning of the season, said: 'Compared with Germany, England is far behind in terms of comfort and culture.
'Five out of the seven houses near us are occupied by footballers.
'Steve Gerrard was burgled recently so a police patrol car comes into our compound fairly often. We hear police sirens all the time. Leverkusen, by contrast, was so much quieter.'
He continued: 'The medical services here are poor. When I was in Germany, there were lots of good clinics and doctors.
'It is nothing like that here - when our child had a skin allergy we waited hours for the doctor to see him. When we finally got to see a doctor, he said he didn't know how to treat children and told us to try rubbing in this ointment.
'That was it. I was stunned. As a result my wife had to go back to Odessa with him and took a full set of tests there.'
He added: 'English isn't the main problem. The main thing is to learn to understand the local players like Gerrard and Carragher.
'They speak with some peculiar local accent and sometimes I have absolutely no clue what the guys are saying. Many foreign players have the same problem.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1083332/Outspoken-Voronin-targets-Liverpool-return-hes-big-Berlin.html

Goats Do Shave · February 03, 2009, 10:53:53 AM

Quote from: corn02 on February 03, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 03, 2009, 10:10:17 AM
The fee paid for Keane by Spurs is less than £10 million. Apparently Spus would have to announce any fee's over that margin to the stock exchange!

That is worng. It was £12 million initially, that has been reported widely.

Why is it wrong? - The press claim that The transfer 6 months ago was £20.3 million - was it not?

Is it inconceivable that part of this tranfsfer is also based on add ons also?

anportmorforjfc · February 03, 2009, 10:55:07 AM

Are you Liverpool fans glad he is gone?

Minder · February 03, 2009, 11:05:17 AM

Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 03, 2009, 10:55:07 AM
Are you Liverpool fans glad he is gone?

I would have preffered a replacement in case Torres hamstring goes again. In fairness he was pretty p*sh in his time at Anfield.

brokencrossbar1 · February 03, 2009, 11:18:04 AM

To call a spade a spade, he was a failure. Maybe he didn't get the opportunities he would have liked, but he played a lot of game time. Some of his misses were inconceivable they were so bad. People point to him being dropped after scoring a few goals on the trot, but before that he had missed double the amount he had scored. I would have liked to have seen him succeed but for a variety of reasons he didn't, book closed, move on. A replacement should have been bought but wasn't so it is time to make do with what there is there. Can they win the League, doubtful but I don't think that Keane or any replacement would be the difference in winning or losing it.

isourboydownyet · February 03, 2009, 11:20:51 AM

is it a definate that nobody is coming in?report saying deals could still be done if a player has to come from overseas due to the travel delays due to the weather

nrico2006 · February 03, 2009, 11:22:02 AM

As I said yesterday its shocking that Benitez has sold Keane without getting a replacement, does he not want to challenge for the league?

gawa316 · February 03, 2009, 11:25:50 AM

Can't believe I'm even writing this but can vorinin be recalled from his loan? I would have more faith in him than Ngog

Hound · February 03, 2009, 11:35:22 AM

Quote from: gawa316 on February 03, 2009, 11:25:50 AM
Can't believe I'm even writing this but can vorinin be recalled from his loan? I would have more faith in him than Ngog

There isn't any question but he's a better player than Ngog, although he's not an out and out striker.

Many loan deals have clauses wherby the player can be recalled, but whether they bothered putting one into Voronin's contract is anyone's guess. Anyway my hunch is Rafa wouldnt want him, even if Torres did pick up an injury.

brokencrossbar1 · February 03, 2009, 11:51:16 AM

Lads, pray that Torres stays fit, he should be fresh if he doesn't get injured as he has played feck all. Gerard has a drive which you rarely see in soccer players.

Let's look to the future, do we want a win against the Bitters or would going out of the up free up time for a serious challenge in the run in for the Premier?

Minder · February 03, 2009, 11:55:38 AM

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 03, 2009, 11:51:16 AM
Lads, pray that Torres stays fit, he should be fresh if he doesn't get injured as he has played feck all. Gerard has a drive which you rarely see in soccer players.

Let's look to the future, do we want a win against the Bitters or would going out of the up free up time for a serious challenge in the run in for the Premier?

I dont give a toss about tomorrow, a defeat would do grand.

BerfArmagh · February 03, 2009, 01:27:02 PM

I have to say Liverpool & Rafa's treatment of Keane has been nothing short of appalling (I support united) & I have to say I prefer th be going at it hammer & tongs with the pool than any of the other rivals.

Personally I admire Gerard, Torres... wonderful players, but Benitez is proving to be a nasty control freak. He has destroyed several strikers since he has been at the club... owen, crouch, Bellamy... I think liverpools season will go belly up, he has 1 decent striker at the club, whose hamstring has been dodgy all season... he has left liverpool wide open with his childish power struggles... I would leave him in charge of the youth team transers never mind the senior team.. Dossena anyone!