These New Rules are a joke

J70 · January 28, 2009, 01:35:46 AM

Quote from: magpie seanie on January 19, 2009, 02:36:21 PM
I cannot believe the suspension thing. Pure crazy. There'll be some craic for CCC's up and down the country keeping track of that if it comes in!

Refs have gone easy on the cards so as to reduce the outcry. Does the David Coldrick miked up game not leave people smelling a rat? No yellow cards in the game - what a coincidence!

I thought initially that there was no way these rules would be accepted but there is serious power behind this and a serious PR campaign being waged so I'm not so sure they will be beaten. It will alter the nature of Gaelic football quite radically.

Apparently Rory Kavanagh was prevented from lifting the McKenna Cup by officials who told him he was suspended after going off with a yellow card. An embarrassed Barry Monaghan had to go up in his place (more than one journalist printed that Monaghan was Kavanagh - who the f**k are these people? Barry Monaghan, while not a household name, has been playing for Donegal for about ten years. He's hardly an unfamiliar face).

Bod Mor · January 28, 2009, 06:02:11 AM

Quick question. It's probably been asked elsewhere but Are the new rules to be enforced for the League?

RMDrive · January 28, 2009, 09:02:05 AM

Quote from: Bod Mor on January 28, 2009, 06:02:11 AM
Quick question. It's probably been asked elsewhere but Are the new rules to be enforced for the League?

Yes.

GrandMasterFlash · January 28, 2009, 09:35:01 AM

Apologies if this has been discusse before but what's the craic if a man gets a yellow card in two/three consecutive games? Does he get a minimum one month ban similar to the old straight red penalty?

On that note, I'm assuming a striaght red is dealt with as it was in the past (by the RUC, CDC, ABC, DRA, GPA, IFA and GUI)?

Thanks.

corn02 · January 28, 2009, 01:27:55 PM

The rules are getting more farcical by the day.

Armagh are fuming after Aidan O'Rourke picked up a controversial one-month suspension which rules him out of their NFL opener against Wexford on Sunday.

O'Rourke received the suspension as his 'reward' for taking time out to coach Queen's University in the McKenna Cup. The Orchard County star got four weeks for remonstrating with a linesman during the win over - ironically - Armagh.

He spent the rest of the McKenna Cup campaign in the stands but is now also ruled out of his county's opening league assignment, much to the wrath of everybody concerned:

"I wasn't too up on the rules in this to tell the truth, but it seems a bit odd. It certainly doesn't encourage fellas to get involved in coaching if this is going to be the case.

"It's an aspect I hadn't really thought of. It has ramifications for coaching the team but the big thing for me was not being able to play for Armagh.

"In Sigerson, you just stand on one side of the rope so it is irrelevant really. But Armagh are not too happy about me missing the game in Wexford."

Hound · January 28, 2009, 01:34:35 PM

O'Rourke's suspension is nothing to do with the new rules.

And it wasn't a friendly chat with the linesman that resulted in the ban. From what I heard he fully deserved his punishment. Great and all it is for lads to give their time for GAA, but no excuse for abusing officials the way O'Rourke did.

corn02 · January 28, 2009, 01:41:40 PM

Quote from: Hound on January 28, 2009, 01:34:35 PM
O'Rourke's suspension is nothing to do with the new rules.

And it wasn't a friendly chat with the linesman that resulted in the ban. From what I heard he fully deserved his punishment. Great and all it is for lads to give their time for GAA, but no excuse for abusing officials the way O'Rourke did.

Officials getting verbal abuse, what next?

corn02 · January 28, 2009, 01:53:10 PM

You're right about it not be a new rule though, slipped my mind.

What is the atcual rule, e.g the crossover between playing and coaching?

Fear ón Srath Bán · January 28, 2009, 05:12:02 PM

GAA yellow cards will not carry over

The GAA has announced that yellow cards incurred under the experimental new rules will not have effect the disciplinary records of players outside the competition in which the cautions were awarded.

Yellow cards, therefore, issued during the January provincial competitions will not carry over to the national leagues, while cautions in the latter will not effect players in the Championships.

A GAA statement added: "This only applies to Category 1 (yellow card) infractions and ... penalties incurred for red card offences will apply across relevant competitions."

corn02 · January 28, 2009, 05:13:16 PM

Hmmm so for example, Marty O Rourke is free to play despite two yellows in January?

pintsofguinness · January 28, 2009, 07:04:39 PM

Quote from: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
The rules are getting more farcical by the day.

Armagh are fuming after Aidan O'Rourke picked up a controversial one-month suspension which rules him out of their NFL opener against Wexford on Sunday.

O'Rourke received the suspension as his 'reward' for taking time out to coach Queen's University in the McKenna Cup. The Orchard County star got four weeks for remonstrating with a linesman during the win over - ironically - Armagh.

He spent the rest of the McKenna Cup campaign in the stands but is now also ruled out of his county's opening league assignment, much to the wrath of everybody concerned:

"I wasn't too up on the rules in this to tell the truth, but it seems a bit odd. It certainly doesn't encourage fellas to get involved in coaching if this is going to be the case.

"It's an aspect I hadn't really thought of. It has ramifications for coaching the team but the big thing for me was not being able to play for Armagh.

"In Sigerson, you just stand on one side of the rope so it is irrelevant really. But Armagh are not too happy about me missing the game in Wexford."

He can have no complaints corn, he abused a linesman and that's the punishment, end of story.

corn02 · January 28, 2009, 07:13:35 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 28, 2009, 07:04:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
The rules are getting more farcical by the day.

Armagh are fuming after Aidan O'Rourke picked up a controversial one-month suspension which rules him out of their NFL opener against Wexford on Sunday.

O'Rourke received the suspension as his 'reward' for taking time out to coach Queen's University in the McKenna Cup. The Orchard County star got four weeks for remonstrating with a linesman during the win over - ironically - Armagh.

He spent the rest of the McKenna Cup campaign in the stands but is now also ruled out of his county's opening league assignment, much to the wrath of everybody concerned:

"I wasn't too up on the rules in this to tell the truth, but it seems a bit odd. It certainly doesn't encourage fellas to get involved in coaching if this is going to be the case.

"It's an aspect I hadn't really thought of. It has ramifications for coaching the team but the big thing for me was not being able to play for Armagh.

"In Sigerson, you just stand on one side of the rope so it is irrelevant really. But Armagh are not too happy about me missing the game in Wexford."
He can have no complaints corn, he abused a linesman and that's the punishment, end of story.

Yeah fair enough, my gripe is with it carrying over to plaing. What is the rule.

A linesman must get abust 20 times a match from players/officials.

pintsofguinness · January 28, 2009, 07:29:51 PM

QuoteA linesman must get abust 20 times a match from players/officials.

Yeah but if you abuse you run the risk of getting yourself in bother and cant complain when you do.

QuoteIt certainly doesn't encourage fellas to get involved in coaching if this is going to be the case.

and that's just pathetic.

off the laces · January 29, 2009, 08:14:36 AM

more new rules, Crossmaglen are a cynical team, never

, what is francie gonna do now you are not allowed to push a man in the chest/face or take a man out when running through, maybe he will look at the rules and think its time to call an end to intercounty.
So the refs are all of to athlone for a wee chat, are the powers that be gonna sit each one down and tell them they must use the same common sense approach in ALL cases, or are we still gonna have inconsistant reffereeing decisions that will differ from one ref to the next?

GrandMasterFlash · January 29, 2009, 08:15:13 AM

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League yellows won't affect championship
28 January 2009

The GAA have confirmed that yellow cards incurred in games played under the experimental new rules in the January provincial competitions and the national leagues will not remain on a player's disciplinary record outside of the immediate competition in which he was participating.

Effectively this means that penalties incurred in the January competitions will not carry forward to the Allianz Leagues or third level competitions and penalties imposed in the national leagues will not be carried forward to the championships.

It should be noted that this only applies to Category 1 (yellow card) infractions and that penalties incurred for Red Card offences will apply across relevant competitions.

The new rules will see players who pick up a number of yellow cards receiving match suspensions, but today's confirmation means that players know that a number of yellow cards could not see them suspended for a first round championship encounter.

So what it this magic 'number' they speak of? The powers that be are so f8ckin vague sometimes you'd wonder how there's not more confusion/disciplinaries, if that's possible!