GAA player test positive in drugs test.

Started by youbetterbelieveit, November 17, 2008, 01:35:22 PM

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rrhf

I feel great sympathy for O Mahony and hope that all his required details are in order.  If a medical required inhaler can get an amateur player suspended then we are certainly heading down the wrong road. 

RMDrive

Quote from: rrhf on November 20, 2008, 01:51:39 PM
I feel great sympathy for O Mahony and hope that all his required details are in order.  If a medical required inhaler can get an amateur player suspended then we are certainly heading down the wrong road

Can I ask what you have the problem with?
Is it that a medically required inhaler could get a player suspended?
or
Is it that an amateur player could get suspended?

Do you believe that (for example) professional cyclists should be allowed to take any level of salbutamol they like?
Or should amateur players be allowed to take as much as they like while professionals should only take a defined amount?

muppet

* Gaelic Games are our National Sports, are in the National interest and receive Government grants.

* They are heavily sponsored and there is a responsibility to those sponsors once you take their money.

* People have been known to cheat whether they are Amateur or Professional.

Therefore it is important our games are clean and that is why it is correct that the Gaa are part of the ISC drug testing.

Of course being part of that can have some nasty side effects. I am pretty sure that this case is a non-event and has been badly handled and hopefully lessons will be learned quickly.

There are medics quoted here as saying this drug is not performance enhancing and dismiss the IOC opinion of it. It should be noted that some of the quoted medics work for pharmaceutical companies while the IOC drugs decision makers also happen to be medics. The IOC ones have less of a vested interest.

BTW Reillers steroids don't directly improve performance, they help you grow. That growth enhances performance. If I run (or even walk these days) I will be out of breath, if you give me something that delays that shortage of breath it improves my performance.

That is not to say treatment for asthma should be banned in sportspeople, it shouldn't. I am merely agreeing that it should be closely monitored. 
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orangeman

GREAT NEWS


The GAA have confirmed that the temporary suspension imposed on Kerry GAA player Aidan O Mahony for a doping offence has been lifted pending a full hearing of his case.

O Mahoney was suspended following an intial finding that the level of the asthma related drug salbutamol which is injested through the use of an inhaler exceeded the permissable levels in a test carried out in the wake of this year's All-Ireland final.
GAA statement in full.

In a statement issued by the GAA, the Association confirmed that following a preliminary hearing by the Chair of the Anti-Doping Hearings Committee, the provisional suspension imposed on one of its players in relation to an alleged anti-doping offence has been lifted, pending a full hearing of the Committee. A date for this meeting has yet to be scheduled.


Rois

Quote from: orangeman on November 21, 2008, 02:24:54 PM
GREAT NEWS


The GAA have confirmed that the temporary suspension imposed on Kerry GAA player Aidan O Mahony for a doping offence has been lifted pending a full hearing of his case.

O Mahoney was suspended following an intial finding that the level of the asthma related drug salbutamol which is injested through the use of an inhaler exceeded the permissable levels in a test carried out in the wake of this year's All-Ireland final.
GAA statement in full.

In a statement issued by the GAA, the Association confirmed that following a preliminary hearing by the Chair of the Anti-Doping Hearings Committee, the provisional suspension imposed on one of its players in relation to an alleged anti-doping offence has been lifted, pending a full hearing of the Committee. A date for this meeting has yet to be scheduled.



Just found out last night that I know this guy.

magpie seanie

Good stuff Rois. Maybe you can find out for Seán Cavanagh if he's allowed to take a Lemsip.

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Rois

No prob, pass all queries through to me, I'll give him a shout. 

Ye know what though, when I found this out last night, I reflected on the strength of the GAA machine.  This guy, a prominent professional in his field, despite being horribly busy, gives his time voluntarily for this.  He's Belfast-based and was obliged to go to Croker a few times this week after hours.  It kinda fuels my anti-professionalism feelings.  So many people are incredibly enthusiastic about the GAA - you'd have to wonder how long this enthusiasm will last if we go any further down the professionalism line. 

I'm not looking for a debate by the way, just recording my reaction.

orangeman

Quote from: Rois on November 21, 2008, 03:11:49 PM
No prob, pass all queries through to me, I'll give him a shout. 

Ye know what though, when I found this out last night, I reflected on the strength of the GAA machine.  This guy, a prominent professional in his field, despite being horribly busy, gives his time voluntarily for this.  He's Belfast-based and was obliged to go to Croker a few times this week after hours.  It kinda fuels my anti-professionalism feelings.  So many people are incredibly enthusiastic about the GAA - you'd have to wonder how long this enthusiasm will last if we go any further down the professionalism line. 
I'm not looking for a debate by the way, just recording my reaction.

That's the question a lot of people are asking themselves.

Uladh

Quote from: Rois on November 21, 2008, 03:11:49 PM
Ye know what though, when I found this out last night, I reflected on the strength of the GAA machine.  This guy, a prominent professional in his field, despite being horribly busy, gives his time voluntarily for this.  He's Belfast-based and was obliged to go to Croker a few times this week after hours.  It kinda fuels my anti-professionalism feelings.  So many people are incredibly enthusiastic about the GAA - you'd have to wonder how long this enthusiasm will last if we go any further down the professionalism line. 

Fair play to him - he's one of thousands who do similar every week.

when do you expect this professionalosm line to be embarked on and if you think it has already, how far to you envisage it going?

Rois

Quote from: Uladh on November 21, 2008, 03:54:15 PM

when do you expect this professionalosm line to be embarked on and if you think it has already, how far to you envisage it going?
Quote from: Rois on November 21, 2008, 03:11:49 PM

I'm not looking for a debate by the way, just recording my reaction.

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boojangles

Great news regarding Aidan O Mahoney. Id be expecting a statement from the GPA regarding this issue and the threat to the Grants very shortly. Id imagine that alot of players have been shocked by the recent developments regarding the Drug-testing. I think its obvious that the whole process(from players to team doctors to the overall legislation) needs a re-think.

full back

The hearing into Aidan O'Mahony's positive drugs test will be held in Dublin on Wednesday 17 December.

Kerry star O'Mahony failed a drugs test after this year's All-Ireland final after being found to have an increased level of salbutamol in his system.

Kerry chairman Jerome Conway is pleased that the player has been given the opportunity to clear his name.

"I have every confidence O'Mahony will be cleared of any misdemeanour. He has our full backing," said Conway.

The GAA had lifted the provisional suspension imposed on O'Mahony for a doping offence pending a full hearing of the case.

The Kerry captain was suspended following an initial finding that the level of the asthma-related drug salbutamol exceeded permitted levels.

O'Mahony uses an inhaler to treat his asthma condition and he has denied any wrongdoing and vowed to clear his name.

Kerry officials have indicated that they are confident that O'Mahony will be cleared of any offence.

Salbutamol is a widely-used treatment for asthma through an inhaler but players are only allowed to take the drug under controlled guidelines.

O'Mahony has enlisted the solicitor who represented rugby player Frankie Sheahan in a similar case in 2003.

In accordance with the provisions of the Irish Anti-Doping Rules, the GAA were obliged to provisionally suspend the player involved pending the outcome of a hearing of the Anti-Doping Hearings Committee.

The finding will require the player to show that the result was the consequence of the therapeutic use of inhaled Salbutamol.

Sheahan had a similar problem with Salbutamol and had a two-year ban slapped on him.

However, the ban was reduced to three months on appeal, and he was also fined 5000 euros.

The Munster hooker claimed he had forgotten to properly inform authorities that he was using a Ventolin inhaler to combat his asthma.



Ignoring that the w4nkers at BBC have said he is a hooker, if is as simple as it sounds I hope it turns out ok for him

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: full back on December 11, 2008, 10:40:33 PM
Ignoring that the w4nkers at BBC have said he is a hooker, if is as simple as it sounds I hope it turns out ok for him

They were referring to Frankie Sheahan (by way of comparison), the Munster rugby player?
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