Is Iran going to explode?

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Baile Brigín 2

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.


Hold up.

Israel decided decades ago that Iran is their main enemy and the regime needs to go. To the surprise of nobody they have been involved in a low intensity and proxy conflict. We know Mpssad are active in Tehran.

Now they have the Americans onside, or perceive they do. They want Iran weak, don't insult our intelligence that this is about the people. It's domestic Israeli politics allowing for Netanyahu's permanent wars.

I have no time for the Iranian regieme, but I see bad news written all over a coup. We have been here before.

Snapchap

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMI said he was deranged and I meant it.
And I meant it when asked you is he as deranged as the people who claimed babies were beheaded in order to justify murdering hundreds of thousands of peolpe indescriminately. Still waiting on an answer.

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMNothing I can do to stop him or others with their disgusting tweets. Call it satire all you like, it's mocking the Iranian dead.
If his intention was to mock Iranian dead, why would he be referencing beheaded babies, if not to use satire to point out that the people reporting the death tolls have a clear track record of lying about the middle east. Eaither you are too stupid to understand fairly clear satire, or you do understand it, and are hoping that it's everyone else who is that stupid.

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMIf he doesn't believe the accounts of some regarding what is happening in Iran, whatever, but how many Iranian deaths are acceptable to Tadhg? 1000, 2000, 10000? At what stage does his 'satire' not work any more?
Not only did he not say any number was "acceptable" (set aside the straw man arguments for one second ffs), but his reference to the number of casualties was, again, about the trustworthiness of those reporting them.

Do you think those who claimed they saw footage of babies being beheaded should be trusted to accurately report what's happening in Iran?

Banks of the Bann

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.


Hold up.

Israel decided decades ago that Iran is their main enemy and the regime needs to go. To the surprise of nobody they have been involved in a low intensity and proxy conflict. We know Mpssad are active in Tehran.

Now they have the Americans onside, or perceive they do. They want Iran weak, don't insult our intelligence that this is about the people. It's domestic Israeli politics allowing for Netanyahu's permanent wars.

I have no time for the Iranian regieme, but I see bad news written all over a coup. We have been here before.

Iran and Israel are enemies and they are both dedicated to the downfall of each other.

In what way have the mass protests of ordinary civilians in Iran been orchestrated and/or controlled by Mossad? Do you have any details or do you just 'know'?

No one ever accused Israel or the US of giving a shit about the people of Iran btw.

But you're in complete denial of the agency or the Iranian people. Why is it anyone who opposes a regime under which they suffer automatically a dupe in the eyes of the left in the west?

If you were all honest with yourselves....you know Iranians suffer under the Mullahs, but you don't care because Iran is an enemy of Israel. The blind eye is turned. Lip service is paid to how evil the Mullahs are, but the big bad BUT is never far behind.

johnnycool

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.



https://x.com/i/status/2011105303442702639

Standard CIA Mossad playbook.


Some of us care enough about the Iranian people to know that as long as they and they only get to decide their future then that's fine, but we all know that will never be the case.



Baile Brigín 2

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.


Hold up.

Israel decided decades ago that Iran is their main enemy and the regime needs to go. To the surprise of nobody they have been involved in a low intensity and proxy conflict. We know Mpssad are active in Tehran.

Now they have the Americans onside, or perceive they do. They want Iran weak, don't insult our intelligence that this is about the people. It's domestic Israeli politics allowing for Netanyahu's permanent wars.

I have no time for the Iranian regieme, but I see bad news written all over a coup. We have been here before.

Iran and Israel are enemies and they are both dedicated to the downfall of each other.

In what way have the mass protests of ordinary civilians in Iran been orchestrated and/or controlled by Mossad? Do you have any details or do you just 'know'?

No one ever accused Israel or the US of giving a shit about the people of Iran btw.

But you're in complete denial of the agency or the Iranian people. Why is it anyone who opposes a regime under which they suffer automatically a dupe in the eyes of the left in the west?

If you were all honest with yourselves....you know Iranians suffer under the Mullahs, but you don't care because Iran is an enemy of Israel. The blind eye is turned. Lip service is paid to how evil the Mullahs are, but the big bad BUT is never far behind.
You are creating strawman arguments. I, and I suspect every poster here, wouldn't shed a tear if the Ayatollah fell. A brutal, failing regime.

But. And this is a legitimate but. If the Yanks and Israelis are pulling strings, and they admit they are, it will be a disaster. I shudder at the notion of the CIA having a plan for somewhere.

Lets use our hindsight. Saddam was also a tyrant who brutalised his people. Knocking him off was the catalyst for a decade of regional carnage. Iran is potentially even worse - that regime has more popular support and is bedded in religious ideology.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Snapchap on January 14, 2026, 04:45:58 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMI said he was deranged and I meant it.
And I meant it when asked you is he as deranged as the people who claimed babies were beheaded in order to justify murdering hundreds of thousands of peolpe indescriminately. Still waiting on an answer.

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMNothing I can do to stop him or others with their disgusting tweets. Call it satire all you like, it's mocking the Iranian dead.
If his intention was to mock Iranian dead, why would he be referencing beheaded babies, if not to use satire to point out that the people reporting the death tolls have a clear track record of lying about the middle east. Eaither you are too stupid to understand fairly clear satire, or you do understand it, and are hoping that it's everyone else who is that stupid.

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 04:28:44 PMIf he doesn't believe the accounts of some regarding what is happening in Iran, whatever, but how many Iranian deaths are acceptable to Tadhg? 1000, 2000, 10000? At what stage does his 'satire' not work any more?
Not only did he not say any number was "acceptable" (set aside the straw man arguments for one second ffs), but his reference to the number of casualties was, again, about the trustworthiness of those reporting them.

Do you think those who claimed they saw footage of babies being beheaded should be trusted to accurately report what's happening in Iran?

Oh I get the point he is trying very hard indeed to make. My point is, he is doing it while innocent Iranian protestors are being murdered in their thousands. Utterly tasteless and in his pathetic attempts at satire he is mocking the dead.

And it is a mockery of the dead because there are many thousands dead, maybe not 5 billion dead, like ho-ho-ho-ho Tadhg so cleverly satirises, but for him they don't matter. Unworthy victims.

Because for him, like you, the Iranian mullah regime is an enemy of Israel and that's the bottom line.

He is no better than a flag waving Zionist. Just the mirror image of that which he professes to hate.


Banks of the Bann

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.



https://x.com/i/status/2011105303442702639

Standard CIA Mossad playbook.


Some of us care enough about the Iranian people to know that as long as they and they only get to decide their future then that's fine, but we all know that will never be the case.



Jeffrey f**king Sachs, seriously. This is the guy that claims he walked around Maidan with a CIA officer who pointed out he gave 10 grand to this person here and 20 grand to that person there. Rightly called a liar to his face recently by an Italian MP during a debate.

'Push people into the streets' - Millions of them. Yeah no bother Jeffrey. Just denying Iranian people any agency. Same old story.

Jonny, you and others on here don't give a hoot about the Iranian people. That's why they're never so much as mentioned before CIA, Mossad enter the chat.

The Mullah regime is an enemy of Israel, that is the bottom line.

Banks of the Bann

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Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2026, 08:16:45 AMI've no time of autocratic and theocratic leaders so if the people of Iran want change then that's for them to decide.

The questions around CIA involvement and more to the point the Mossad who have openly admitted involvement is a concern as we've seen in both Syria and Libya where there are open mass shootings and reprisals on a daily basis post regime change and no democracy in sight.

Israel craves a weak Iran so if the Ayatollah does topple they will bomb the shít out of the place just like they did in Syria and no one will give two shiny shítes for the ordinary Iranians getting bombed to death like they didn't care one jot for them when the US was bombing Iran at the behest of Israel last year.

Who now for regime change? The Saudis? The Emiratis'? Egypt?

Nice that millions of 'the people of Iran' got a short cameo role at the start there.

As usual, they don't count, it's all about Israel, the US, the West.




It is when the main actors in this region are "Israel, the US, the West".

Just look at Libya and Syria in particular.

Is that what the Iranian people want there as well? Will they get a say?

Iran is a 'main actor' in the region as well.

Don't you think it's odd that millions of people are protesting and being brutally murdered by a horrific regime and it's barely a consideration for you?



They also removed the US backed Shah for the very same reasons and ended up with the Ayatollah's.

What they don't need is US freedom and democracy like the Syrians are now experiencing.

Let's not kid ourselves, the US via the CIA and the Mossad won't accept any government in that region unless they support their will, democracy is nothing but a smokescreen.

This has nothing to do with the wishes of the Iranian people.


Yet there they are, on the streets.

And you have no thought or concerns for them or their lives, it's all just CIA, Mossad, great power games for you and those like you.

Are you saying Mossad aren't involved?

Does the involvement of Mossad delegitimise the Iranian protests? Are they giving out cookies to the protestors?

Is Iran involved in Palestinian affairs? Does their involvement delegitimise the struggle of the Palestinain people?

No. But it leads to two conclusions.

1. The movement isn't as organic as claimed, it is being directed externally to some extent.

2. This isn't about the Iranian people.

Tell me all about 1. Tell me everything you know.

What information you have about Mossad activities.

In what way they are directing and manipulating the protests.

What conclusions you have reached with regard to all of the above.

As for 2, it definitely isn't about the Iranian people for you lot. They are scarcely a second thought with your obsession with Israel and the US.

For the Iranian people, i.e. those protesting and dying, it's all about the Iranian people, their lives, their families.

Tadhg, Snapchat, Jonnycool, Baile Brigin.. couldn't give a shit about them.

Unworthy victims.


Hold up.

Israel decided decades ago that Iran is their main enemy and the regime needs to go. To the surprise of nobody they have been involved in a low intensity and proxy conflict. We know Mpssad are active in Tehran.

Now they have the Americans onside, or perceive they do. They want Iran weak, don't insult our intelligence that this is about the people. It's domestic Israeli politics allowing for Netanyahu's permanent wars.

I have no time for the Iranian regieme, but I see bad news written all over a coup. We have been here before.

Iran and Israel are enemies and they are both dedicated to the downfall of each other.

In what way have the mass protests of ordinary civilians in Iran been orchestrated and/or controlled by Mossad? Do you have any details or do you just 'know'?

No one ever accused Israel or the US of giving a shit about the people of Iran btw.

But you're in complete denial of the agency or the Iranian people. Why is it anyone who opposes a regime under which they suffer automatically a dupe in the eyes of the left in the west?

If you were all honest with yourselves....you know Iranians suffer under the Mullahs, but you don't care because Iran is an enemy of Israel. The blind eye is turned. Lip service is paid to how evil the Mullahs are, but the big bad BUT is never far behind.
You are creating strawman arguments. I, and I suspect every poster here, wouldn't shed a tear if the Ayatollah fell. A brutal, failing regime.

But. And this is a legitimate but. If the Yanks and Israelis are pulling strings, and they admit they are, it will be a disaster. I shudder at the notion of the CIA having a plan for somewhere.

Lets use our hindsight. Saddam was also a tyrant who brutalised his people. Knocking him off was the catalyst for a decade of regional carnage. Iran is potentially even worse - that regime has more popular support and is bedded in religious ideology.

What hindsight are you talking about? I must have missed the millions of protesting Iraqis trying to overthrow Saddam Hussein. It was a straight up invasion based on trumped up lies.



Wildweasel74

How hard is it to reply to a post without posting the previous half page. Dont be so lazy!

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 05:25:36 PMWhat hindsight are you talking about? I must have missed the millions of protesting Iraqis trying to overthrow Saddam Hussein. It was a straight up invasion based on trumped up lies.



We were told the Iraqis wanted him gone and would treat the Yanks as liberators.

We are falling for the same bullshit twice in a generation

Snapchap

#56
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 05:12:37 PMOh I get the point he is trying very hard indeed to make. My point is, he is doing it while innocent Iranian protestors are being murdered in their thousands. Utterly tasteless and in his pathetic attempts at satire he is mocking the dead.
Political satire is always the most potent at a time of conflict. The Iraq invasion involved around 1 millions dead, and TV shows like Bremnar, Bird & Fortune thrived on the satire.

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 05:12:37 PMAnd it is a mockery of the dead because there are many thousands dead, maybe not 5 billion dead, like ho-ho-ho-ho Tadhg so cleverly satirises, but for him they don't matter. Unworthy victims.
Funny how you are happy to refute a deliberately satirical death toll by a comedian as though it was serious, but have no comment on the serious claims of the death toll by the Western governments/media. Do you believe their estimates? Would you agree that they are perhaps not all that trustworthy in reporting events in the middle east? (Sorry to have to repeat that last question, but you seem coy about answering it).

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on January 14, 2026, 05:12:37 PMBecause for him, like you, the Iranian mullah regime is an enemy of Israel and that's the bottom line.

He is no better than a flag waving Zionist. Just the mirror image of that which he professes to hate.
I don't like Israeli regime, so therefor I like the Iranian regime? What a binary world you live in. If it weren't for straw man arguments, you'd have precisely nothing to offer. And as for you labelling of Tadhg/myself, I wonder what label can be stuck on someone like you who tried so valiently to derail, interrupt and distract any discussion about the indiscriminate slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Gazans on the thread about that genocide?

Banks of the Bann

#57
A few things:

1. Bremner, Bird and Fortune managed to do satire without openly rooting for a regime at that exact time slaughtering protestors on the streets. Tadhg reposts the below:

https://x.com/stanleycohenlaw/status/2011200306131140985?s=46

And his support for Iran is exactly why Tadhg's so called 'satire', designed to downplay the violence of the Iranian regime, makes a mockery of the dead.

2. Can you provide a rationale behind his demented 'Iranian babes' skit?

3.  Here is Tadhg again, voicing his delight that the protests have been squashed, characterising the protests as 'violent'. Doing the dirty work of the regime.

https://x.com/tadhghickey/status/2011932582959522283?s=46

Are all the protests 'violent'? Does some violence delegitimise all protests? Does meeting state violence with violence delegitimise all protests? Tadhg neglects to say.

4. Has Tadhg ever expressed explicit criticism of the Iranian regime?

5. What are you blethering about re. My comments on Gaza?


JPGJOHNNYG

Don't know much about that Hickey lad but I saw him on YouTube debating with Jamie Bryson on a United Ireland and he was next to useless, he just let Jamie talk his usual shite and rarely challenged his nonsense

Snapchap

FFS I'm not here to speak on behalf of Tadhg Hickey. I'm merely (repeatedly) pointing out the blindingly obvious meaning behind his satirical tweets on the death toll - i.e. that the people reporting it are the same people who insisted they saw video evidence of babies being beheaded. I.e. by lying b*****ds. I've asked you I don't know how many times, but sure what the heck, I'll ask again:  Would you agree that those in US/UK governments and media outlets reporting on the death toll in Iran are perhaps not all that trustworthy in reporting events in the middle east, given the lies they knowingly spouted in order to allow the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of Gazans?

P.s. ref you and Gaza...my point was that you persistently attempted to hijack the Gaza genocide thread to talk about Russia and Ukraine. You  accused me of not caring about Iranian civilians, but when people on this board tried to talk about the wholesale slaughter of 70,000 palestinians, you repeatedly tried to deflect from the topic.