Armagh v Derry. Group 4

[APM]

The most important thing about that game for Armagh was winning, off the back of the UF loss. In a game like that the nature of the win doesn't matter.

The winning of that game was on Armagh's kickout & midfield. Between that and Derry's poor shot selection they managed to restrict Derry to 13 points in 59 mins.

Armagh looked a bit open at the back at different times throughout that game and McKay is missed in there. But during that 10 min period at the end the defence was wide open and particularly for the second Derry goal.

The Glass injury reminded me of the ref stopping the game for Murphy cramping in the Ulster Final.

[Mario]

It was clearly a head injury not a blood stoppage, although there was plenty of blood too

[smelmoth]

It was clearly a head injury not a blood stoppage, although there was plenty of blood too

Ref stopped the game, quite rightly for a potential head injury to 2 players. But the protracted stoppage was to address the blood scenario. That is supposed to happen off the field.

[Spiderlegs]

It was clearly a head injury not a blood stoppage, although there was plenty of blood too

Ref stopped the game, quite rightly for a potential head injury to 2 players. But the protracted stoppage was to address the blood scenario. That is supposed to happen off the field.

After receiving treatment, is he not supposed to leave the field of play?

[Orior]

It was clearly a head injury not a blood stoppage, although there was plenty of blood too

Ref stopped the game, quite rightly for a potential head injury to 2 players. But the protracted stoppage was to address the blood scenario. That is supposed to happen off the field.

Who was the other injured player?

https://youtu.be/BDbUEydkuR8?si=8CfRf2YsPsMKtLpB

[GTP]

Murphy wasn't injured during play and didn't receive any treatment so they aren't really comparable incidents.

[bennydorano]

The most important thing about that game for Armagh was winning, off the back of the UF loss. In a game like that the nature of the win doesn't matter.

The winning of that game was on Armagh's kickout & midfield. Between that and Derry's poor shot selection they managed to restrict Derry to 13 points in 59 mins.

Armagh looked a bit open at the back at different times throughout that game and McKay is missed in there. But during that 10 min period at the end the defence was wide open and particularly for the second Derry goal.

The Glass injury reminded me of the ref stopping the game for Murphy cramping in the Ulster Final.

I thought we played without a proper CHB for long spells as it was very zonal defending, picking up whoever came your way (apart from Burns who shadowed McGuigan), McCabe coming in to sit at CHB when the shit was hitting the fan changed it. A flaw was exposed either way, tactically or personnel wise. I also thought McGeeney looked like was seething talking to RTE on the SG - was partially of his making as Derry's purple patch came after a raft of substitutions.

[balladmaker]

Was it a case of Armagh running the bench in the last 10 mins or so that created what was basically a collapse of epic proportions?  Or was it another example of Armagh struggling to close a game out?   Derry wouldn't have deserved to win the game, if it wasn't for Ethan Rafferty then they would have won with some to spare ...  and all within a 10 minute period.

Lots to work on for Armagh, but it isn't a bad place to be.  Add in the return of Rian O'Neill, Joe McElroy and others who look not to be far away fighting for places, I think Armagh are in a good place.  Dublin next Sunday will be interesting.

I think Derry have every chance of beating Galway in Celtic Park, their fighting spirit was there for all to see last night, no reason why they can't give the Tribesmen a good rattle.

[Wildweasel74]

Derry going nowhere this year. players are there, i don't think the attitude previously under Gallagher is. Players. like supporters are bound to be questioning why we give away opposition kickouts, plus the mess of the goal keeper situation been Tally biggest fault from early in the league. The Derry kickouts are absolutely killing us, no set pattern, none short, easy to read and tend to be one sided.

[illdecide]

I said it would be closer than you all think but it was a very strange game as Armagh could easily have won that game by 15pts yet Derry had chances for goals that could have put us in trouble. Hard game to analyse tbh but what I do know is that won't do next Sunday in Croke Park as the Dubs will score most of them chances. Derry have young lads in their panel and young guys have no fear, get them in the team and get them game time and it will pay dividends. Experience is great but you can't do nothing without the youth coming thru.
The great thing about following Armagh is you always get your money's worth, we all know winning by 13pts with 10-12mins to go the game is not over as we always find the hardest way to win. Some of the best games in the Championship have involved Armagh in recent years and majority have ended in defeat but have been epic games. Armagh just don't do easy no matter who they play...

[armaghniac]

I said it would be closer than you all think but it was a very strange game as Armagh could easily have won that game by 15pts yet Derry had chances for goals that could have put us in trouble. Hard game to analyse tbh but what I do know is that won't do next Sunday in Croke Park as the Dubs will score most of them chances. Derry have young lads in their panel and young guys have no fear, get them in the team and get them game time and it will pay dividends. Experience is great but you can't do nothing without the youth coming thru.
The great thing about following Armagh is you always get your money's worth, we all know winning by 13pts with 10-12mins to go the game is not over as we always find the hardest way to win. Some of the best games in the Championship have involved Armagh in recent years and majority have ended in defeat but have been epic games. Armagh just don't do easy no matter who they play...

This year Armagh have had games that they were up for and games that they were not. They did not lose sleep over away games in Ballybofey and Tralee, they very much came out determined to win against Tyrone and Dublin the league. They eased up against Mayo in the league. I'd hope that Dublin in Croke Park is a game where they come out determined to win. As Dublin have beaten Galway there will be no complacency. They still might not beat Dublin but they will not be far away.

[Armamike]

I wouldn't over analyse the last 10 mins of that game. We lost control at midfield when the changes were made and Derry went for goals. There are things the team can learn from that, but better it happened in a game that was basically done than getting mugged in a closer one. Happy enough where Armagh are at the minute.

[Estimator]

I wouldn't over analyse the last 10 mins of that game. We lost control at midfield when the changes were made and Derry went for goals. There are things the team can learn from that, but better it happened in a game that was basically done than getting mugged in a closer one. Happy enough where Armagh are at the minute.

The changes shouldn't have had that big an impact on the last ten minutes when you consider that the Armagh subs probably had more AI Final appearances between them that the Derry subs had C'ship appearances between them.

[naka]

Thought Derry threw off the shackles and went for it whilst Armagh disjointed in last ten minutes .
Looking at the game again I would say that Ethan Doherty is simply a fabulous footballer just a pleasure to watch him.
Fancy both northern  teams to win at the weekend

[Armamike]

I wouldn't over analyse the last 10 mins of that game. We lost control at midfield when the changes were made and Derry went for goals. There are things the team can learn from that, but better it happened in a game that was basically done than getting mugged in a closer one. Happy enough where Armagh are at the minute.

The changes shouldn't have had that big an impact on the last ten minutes when you consider that the Armagh subs probably had more AI Final appearances between them that the Derry subs had C'ship appearances between them.

Maybe not, but the changes coincided with a bit of a collapse.  As Naka says, Derry also threw caution to the wind and went for it.  Should be noted though that they weren't finding space like that in the previous 60 mins.