Benefit Cuts

[Tony Baloney]

To be honest I never been well since covid, still work but there's days am fit for nothing. I couldn't do a job where they be any serious sort of manual labour now. B4 hand i could.

I'm exactly the same. Joints and muscles really reducing mobility - but not to the point I can't work as I have a primarily desk based job. But I know a guy who took a reaction to the vaccine at the time, and he has been really unwell since. He still works as self employed, but he struggles a lot.

Are you sure the joint and muscle business is not related to sitting at your desk? Sitting at desks is slowly ruining us.

[tbrick18]

To be honest I never been well since covid, still work but there's days am fit for nothing. I couldn't do a job where they be any serious sort of manual labour now. B4 hand i could.

I'm exactly the same. Joints and muscles really reducing mobility - but not to the point I can't work as I have a primarily desk based job. But I know a guy who took a reaction to the vaccine at the time, and he has been really unwell since. He still works as self employed, but he struggles a lot.

Are you sure the joint and muscle business is not related to sitting at your desk? Sitting at desks is slowly ruining us.

It could well be and possibly coincidental that it started post covid. It certainly doesn't help anyway.

[AustinPowers]

To be honest I never been well since covid, still work but there's days am fit for nothing. I couldn't do a job where they be any serious sort of manual labour now. B4 hand i could.

Is it more a  fatigue thing? Or pains and aches?

[Windmill abu]

The Government coming after the poorest in society, while trying to catch a minority who are abusing the system, is an attempt to appeal to a class of voter who regard the poor as layabouts and scroungers. The current Labour Party are no different from the tories. They will take away as much as possible from the poorest, and never go after the wealthy who make use of the tax loop holes to avoid paying their fair share. Getting companies and wealthy individuals to pay more tax should be the aim of any labour government to raise money and fund the HHS and welfare programs.

[tyrone08]

The Government coming after the poorest in society, while trying to catch a minority who are abusing the system, is an attempt to appeal to a class of voter who regard the poor as layabouts and scroungers. The current Labour Party are no different from the tories. They will take away as much as possible from the poorest, and never go after the wealthy who make use of the tax loop holes to avoid paying their fair share. Getting companies and wealthy individuals to pay more tax should be the aim of any labour government to raise money and fund the HHS and welfare programs.

Would say its more than the minority. Would imagine the scale of benefit fraud is off the charts. Everyone knows people at it, the number of parents getting benefits for kids diagnosed with autism and adhd is ridiculous these days.

[armaghniac]

The Government coming after the poorest in society, while trying to catch a minority who are abusing the system, is an attempt to appeal to a class of voter who regard the poor as layabouts and scroungers. The current Labour Party are no different from the tories. They will take away as much as possible from the poorest, and never go after the wealthy who make use of the tax loop holes to avoid paying their fair share. Getting companies and wealthy individuals to pay more tax should be the aim of any labour government to raise money and fund the HHS and welfare programs.

Would say its more than the minority. Would imagine the scale of benefit fraud is off the charts. Everyone knows people at it, the number of parents getting benefits for kids diagnosed with autism and adhd is ridiculous these days.

Almost half of new cars sold in the 6 counties are Motability.

[RedHand88]

The Government coming after the poorest in society, while trying to catch a minority who are abusing the system, is an attempt to appeal to a class of voter who regard the poor as layabouts and scroungers. The current Labour Party are no different from the tories. They will take away as much as possible from the poorest, and never go after the wealthy who make use of the tax loop holes to avoid paying their fair share. Getting companies and wealthy individuals to pay more tax should be the aim of any labour government to raise money and fund the HHS and welfare programs.

Would say its more than the minority. Would imagine the scale of benefit fraud is off the charts. Everyone knows people at it, the number of parents getting benefits for kids diagnosed with autism and adhd is ridiculous these days.

Almost half of new cars sold in the 6 counties are Motability.

Some people would have this absurdity continue.

[thewobbler]

The Government coming after the poorest in society, while trying to catch a minority who are abusing the system, is an attempt to appeal to a class of voter who regard the poor as layabouts and scroungers. The current Labour Party are no different from the tories. They will take away as much as possible from the poorest, and never go after the wealthy who make use of the tax loop holes to avoid paying their fair share. Getting companies and wealthy individuals to pay more tax should be the aim of any labour government to raise money and fund the HHS and welfare programs.

Would say its more than the minority. Would imagine the scale of benefit fraud is off the charts. Everyone knows people at it, the number of parents getting benefits for kids diagnosed with autism and adhd is ridiculous these days.

Almost half of new cars sold in the 6 counties are Motability.

Some people would have this absurdity continue.

Then I daresay the arse would fall completely out of the new car market with this happening.

That's a whole new set of economic problems.

The world is complicated.

[playwiththewind1st]

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Then I daresay the arse would fall completely out of the new car market with this happening.
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It already has.....a local car dealer has just got a £5 million tax bill from HMRC. Ooooops. 

[Windmill abu]

The current Government proposals are for the living component of the PIP award. The mobility component won't be affected,so the number of Motability cars probably won't be reduced.

[playwiththewind1st]

"Would say its more than the minority. Would imagine the scale of benefit fraud is off the charts".

About 20-25 years ago, I was payroll manager with a local public sector pension fund. The Social Security Agency used to send me hundreds of requests for pension details, belonging to people who inadvertently forgot to declare their pension when claiming benefits. I had one fecker who cashed his deceased relative's pension cheque each month in one of those cheque cashing shops in North Street. Every 2 years, I had to order up bucketloads of death certificates, after the National Fraud Initiative was run, as lots of people "forgot" to tell me about a parent's death & continued drawing their pension. Whoever reported the death on the certificate got hammered for it, as first port of call. I could go on, but I daresay it's now far worse than it was.

[Norm-Peterson]

Universal basic income will eventually roll out in western countries. A lot of warehouse and factory work is already being taken over by automation. I think future generations will be even less likely to be able to hold down jobs because of decreased attention spans and internet addiction.
I have read discussions on Reddit that a rule for 'Universal basic income' could be that you can receive it but you have to agree to not have children.