New rules at club level

[Brendan]

Referees not giving much of a signal for 2 pointers and no flags for umpires at club grounds leads to scoreboards being wrong

[thewobbler]

Referees not giving much of a signal for 2 pointers and no flags for umpires at club grounds leads to scoreboards being wrong

Agreed. For the 2-point malarkey to work, there'a no room for confusion.

[GTP]

Was at an underage game yesterday and the referee appeared to bring a sideline in 50m when the ball wasn't handed back to the opposition. Anything I have read suggests that the 50m penalty only applies to a player fouled.
In this instance the defending team ran the ball over the line and walked off with the ball didn't hand it back and delayed the sideline - my understanding is that at most it is the 13m penalty.
Does anyone know if the 50m penalty is applicable for sideline balls?
From watching the match, it will be practically impossible for referees to spot the 4/3 up infringements. With a full forward on the goal line and two corner forwards stretched wide, you needed to do a full scan of the pitch to count players. Although both teams did try and police themselves, I can see it being a bit more contentious come championship matches.

The ref did give a clear signal for the one two pointer scored, but no scoreboard in action so no chance it could be wrong.

[Milltown Row2]

Was at an underage game yesterday and the referee appeared to bring a sideline in 50m when the ball wasn't handed back to the opposition. Anything I have read suggests that the 50m penalty only applies to a player fouled.
In this instance the defending team ran the ball over the line and walked off with the ball didn't hand it back and delayed the sideline - my understanding is that at most it is the 13m penalty.
Does anyone know if the 50m penalty is applicable for sideline balls?
From watching the match, it will be practically impossible for referees to spot the 4/3 up infringements. With a full forward on the goal line and two corner forwards stretched wide, you needed to do a full scan of the pitch to count players. Although both teams did try and police themselves, I can see it being a bit more contentious come championship matches.

The ref did give a clear signal for the one two pointer scored, but no scoreboard in action so no chance it could be wrong.

If he stopped the player from taking the sideline then move it forward 50 meters (but would need to confirm it), players for a sideline don't have to had the ball back to the player. Why didn't the player just drop the ball after carrying it over? Was there any verbal? which would have given the ref another reason to move the ball..

Its a good question with regards to that though

When the rules are new like this, there isn't a referee in the country that is going to be up to scratch, so best advice is don't give the ref an opportunity to second guess his call

As for score boards, only one score counts and that's the one in his book, three games in and I've had to correct the scoreboard 3 times at half time

[Brendan]

It doesn't take much to start a row at a GAA match and the scoreboard is one of the easiest ways

[twohands!!!]

6.4 To show dissent with the Referee's decision to award a free to the opposing team.

Was at an underage game yesterday and the referee appeared to bring a sideline in 50m when the ball wasn't handed back to the opposition. Anything I have read suggests that the 50m penalty only applies to a player fouled.
In this instance the defending team ran the ball over the line and walked off with the ball didn't hand it back and delayed the sideline - my understanding is that at most it is the 13m penalty.
Does anyone know if the 50m penalty is applicable for sideline balls?
From watching the match, it will be practically impossible for referees to spot the 4/3 up infringements. With a full forward on the goal line and two corner forwards stretched wide, you needed to do a full scan of the pitch to count players. Although both teams did try and police themselves, I can see it being a bit more contentious come championship matches.

The ref did give a clear signal for the one two pointer scored, but no scoreboard in action so no chance it could be wrong.

Penalty - The free kickalreadyawardedshallbe takenfromaplace 50mmore advantageous than the place of
original kick– up to opponents' 13mline. The playertaking the free may choose to take the free kickfrom
outside the 40marc though the application ofthis Rule would otherwise resultin a free kick frominside the 40m
arc. Furtherdissent on an occasion shall be considered as a breach ofRule 6.1 and shall be penalised accordingly.

Sideline is covered.

Also I think a fair few people still don't know about part (c) Too many people don't realise you have to actively get out of the way of the player fouled - you can't just stand your ground or be sort-of passively in the way.

4.17 To delay an opponent taking a free kick or sideline kick by:
(a) Hitting or kicking the ball away; or not "handing over" the ball(i.e. giving the ball directly to the nearest opposition player, orthe player fouled, in a prompt and respectful manner).
(b) Not releasing the ball to the opposition, or
(c) Deliberately not moving back to allow a quick free or Solo and Go to be taken.

Logically it makes sense that sidelines would be covered by this as well as frees. It would be a ridiculous loop-hole to leave open.

https://www.gaa.ie/article/dissent-to-football-referees-hugely-reduced

No real surprise here. I'd imagine if stats were available for club games it would show the same.

[GTP]

If he stopped the player from taking the sideline then move it forward 50 meters (but would need to confirm it), players for a sideline don't have to had the ball back to the player. Why didn't the player just drop the ball after carrying it over? Was there any verbal? which would have given the ref another reason to move the ball..

I was at the other end of the pitch so couldn't see / hear exactly what went on so as with any reasonable spectator I have gone with my version of events and concluded the referee was wrong. The ref had been consistent on bringing things forward and he was justified in moving the ball forward, just trying to find out if he was correct within the rules on the distance. It led to a tap over free which ultimately made no difference but that wouldn't always be the case. In my mind a sideline is the same as a 45 and I can't imagine a 45 being brought forward should someone not hand back the ball.

[Stall the Bailer]

Anything that resulted in it being moved 13m in the old rules is now 50m.The only instance where it will be less than 50m is if it would take it within the 13m line, as all frees must be outside the 13m line.

[Milltown Row2]

Anything that resulted in it being moved 13m in the old rules is now 50m.The only instance where it will be less than 50m is if it would take it within the 13m line, as all frees must be outside the 13m line.

With the exception of dissent from sideline is a yellow card and ball moved to the 20

[Stall the Bailer]

There is always another exception MR2, isn't there?   

[GTP]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Milltown Row2]

There is always another exception MR2, isn't there?   

Look if you aren't on your game and in the heat of championship or a deciding league game you'll or we'll be caught out..